layout help needed, including some IE/FF issues

ok first id like to say that the community here is excellent and i thank you all for your help and time..(probably the best experience ive ever had on a forum and that even includes with paid scripts...Awesome!)

aside from the fact that zen cart is absolutely excellent... and well written .. cheere to the zen cart team!:thumbsup:


so heres my little problem
ecanyoncreek.com

if you look in ie 7 it looks great!

but if you could take a look with fire fox and or ie6 or older..

you'll see that on these other browsers/versions the header is seperated largely from the body.:frusty:

also one more reson for me to bang my head on my keyboard is the excessive nav bars in the body of the page

i like this one "Home :: Candles :: Candle 1 "

but if you click the category "candles"

youll see the addition of "Home :: Candles :: Candle 1
Candles
"
under this..which is kind of over kill and i think it pushes the page down :cry:

also id like the side nav on the left in the invisible box to be aligned top but in my css. it looks as they are all set to "verticle-align:top".. i may have missed one so whats that under in the stylesheet or is there something else keeping it spaced down in the page..


thx in advance..:lamo:

heres my .css maybe this will help! :)

Code:

---

body {
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-size: 62.5%;
        color: #000000;
        background: #fff url(../images/bg_011.jpg);
        text-align:left;
        }

a img {border: none; }

a:link {
        color: #0066FF;
        text-decoration: none;
        }
 
a:visited {
        color: #0066FF;
        text-decoration: none;
        }

a:hover, #navCatTabs ul li a:hover {
        color: #00CCFF;
        }
#navMain ul li a:hover {
        color: #ffffff;
  text-decoration: none;       
}
#navSupp ul li a:hover {
        color: #ffffff;
        }

a:active {
        color: #0000FF;
        }

h1 {
        font-size: 1.5em;
        color: #9a9a9a;
        }

h2 {
        font-size: 1.4em;
        }

h3 {
        font-size: 1.3em;
        }

h4, h5, h6, LABEL, h4.optionName, LEGEND, ADDRESS, .sideBoxContent, .larger{
        font-size: 1.1em;
        }

.biggerText {
        font-size: 1.2em;
        }

h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {
        margin: 0;Padding:0;
        }

CODE {
        font-family: arial, verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;
        font-size: 1em;
        }

FORM {
        display: inline;
        font-size: 1em;
        margin: 0;
        }

input {border:1px solid #B6ABD5; background:#fff;}
       
       
TEXTAREA {
        float: left;
        margin: auto;
        display: block;
        width: 850px;
        }

input:focus, textarea:focus {
        background: #fff;
        }

FIELDSET {
        padding: 0.5em;
        margin: 0.5em 0em;
        border: 1px solid #cccccc;
        }

LEGEND {
        font-weight: bold;
        padding: 0.3em;
        }

LABEL, h4.optionName {
        line-height: 1.5em;
        padding: 0.2em;
        }

LABEL.checkboxLabel, LABEL.radioButtonLabel {
        margin: 0.5em 0.3em;
        }
       
select {margin: 0;background:#fff;}
select:focus {
        background: #fff;
        }               
option {background:#fff; color:navy;}
optgroup {background:#fff; color:navy; font-family:georgia, serif;}
optgroup option {background:#fff; color:navy;}

.centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .attribImg {
        float: left;
        }
#logo {
        float: left;
        }
LABEL.inputLabel {
        width: 10em;
        float: left;
        }

LABEL.inputLabelPayment {
        width: 14em;
        float: left;
        padding-left: 2.5em;
        }

LABEL.selectLabel, LABEL.switchedLabel, LABEL.uploadsLabel {
        width: 11em;
        float: left;
        }

#checkoutPayment LABEL.radioButtonLabel {
        font-weight: bold;
        }

P, ADDRESS {
        padding: 0.5em;
        }

ADDRESS {
        font-style: normal;
        }

.clearBoth {
        clear: both;
        }

HR {
        height: 1px;
        margin-top: 0.5em;
        border: none;
        border-bottom: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
        }

/*warnings, errors, messages*/
.messageStackWarning, .messageStackError, .messageStackSuccess, .messageStackCaution {
        line-height: 1.8em;
        padding: 0.2em;
        border: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
        }

.messageStackWarning, .messageStackError {
        background-color: #ff0000;
        color: #ffffff;
        }

.messageStackSuccess {
        background-color: #99FF99;
        color: #000000;
        }

.messageStackCaution {
        background-color: #FFFF66;
        color: #000000;
        }

/*wrappers - page or section containers*/
#mainWrapper {
        margin: auto;
        background-color: #FFFFCC;
        text-align: left;
        width: 850px;
        vertical-align: top;
        }

#logoWrapper, #cartBoxListWrapper, #ezPageBoxList, #cartBoxListWrapper ul, #ezPageBoxList ul, , #popupAdditionalImage, #popupImage {
        margin: 0em;
        padding: 0em;
        }
   
#contentMainWrapper {
        margin: 0 auto;
        padding: 0;
        width: 850px;
        background-color: #FFFFFF;       
        border: solid ;
        border: #512000;
}       
       
#headerWrapper {
        background-color: transparent;       
}       
       
#logoWrapper{
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0;
        height:70px;
        }
 
#navColumnOneWrapper {
        margin: 0 0.5em;
        padding: 120px 0 0 0;
        }
#navColumnTwoWrapper {
        margin: 0 0.5em;
        }
#taglineWrapper {
        margin:0;
        padding:20px 0 0 200px;
        vertical-align: middle;
        color:#000;
}
#tagline {
        /*color:#fff;*/
        font-size: 1.3em;
        font-weight: 400;
        /*text-align : center;
        vertical-align: bottom;*/
        }

#sendSpendWrapper {
        border: 1px solid #cacaca;
        float: right;
        margin: 0em 0em 1em 1em;
        }

.floatingBox, #accountLinksWrapper, #sendSpendWrapper, #checkoutShipto, #checkoutBillto {
        margin: 0;
        width: 47%;
        }

.wrapperAttribsOptions {
        margin: 0.3em 0em;
        }

/*navigation*/
.navNextPrevWrapper{padding: 10px 0;}
.navSplitPagesResult {padding: 5px 0;}
.navSplitPagesLinks {}
.navNextPrevCounter {
        padding: 5px 0;
        font-size: 0.9em;
        }
.navNextPrevList {
        display: inline;
        white-space: nowrap;
        padding: 5px 5px 10px 5px;
        list-style-type: none;
        }

#navMainWrapper {
        margin: 0em;
        padding: 0 0.2em;
        background-color: transparent;
        font-weight: bold;
        color: #FFCC00;
        height: 1%;
        vertical-align: middle;
        font-size:1.4em;
}
#navCatTabsWrapper {
        margin: 0em;
        padding: 0 0.2em;
        background-color: #512000;
        font-weight: bold; color:#FFFFFF;
        height: 1%;
        vertical-align: middle;
        font-size:1.2em;
}
#navSuppWrapper {
        margin: 0em;
        padding: 0 0.2em;
        background-color: transparent;
        font-weight: bold;
        color: #000;
        height: 1%;
        vertical-align: middle;
        font-size:.9em;
}

#navCatTabs ul {
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0m;
        list-style-type: none;
        text-align: center;
        line-height: 1.5em;
        vertical-align: middle;
}

#navMain ul {
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0.5em 0 0 300px;
        list-style-type: none;
        text-align: center;
        line-height: 1.5em;
        vertical-align: middle;
}
#navSupp ul {
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0.5em 0em;
        list-style-type: none;
        text-align: center;
        line-height: 1.5em;
        vertical-align: middle;
}
       
#navMain ul li, #navSupp ul li, #navCatTabs ul li {
        display: inline;
        }
       
#navMain ul li a {
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0em 0.5em;
        text-decoration: none;
        background: #ccc;
        color: #000;
        white-space: nowrap;
        }
       
#navMain ul li a:hover {
        text-decoration: none;
        background: #ccc;
        color: #fff;
        }
       
#navSupp ul li a, #navCatTabs ul li a {
        text-decoration: none;
        padding: 0em 0.5em;
        margin: 0;
        color: #ffffff;
        white-space: nowrap;
        }

#navSupp ul li :hover, #navCatTabs ul li a:hover {
        text-decoration: none;
        color: navy;
        }
               
#navEZPagesTOCWrapper {
        font-weight: bold;
        float: right;
        height: 1%;
        border: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
        }

#navEZPagesTOC ul {
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0.5em 0em;
        list-style-type: none;
        line-height: 1.5em;
        }

#navEZPagesTOC ul li {
        white-space: nowrap;
        }

#navEZPagesTOC ul li a {
        padding: 0em 0.5em;
        margin: 0;
        }

#navCategoryIcon, .buttonRow, #indexProductListCatDescription {
        margin: 0.5em;
        }

#navMainSearch {
margin: 0;
padding: 8px 3px 9px 5px;
        float: right;
  background: transparent;
  display:none;
        }
#navMainSearch input {
        margin: 0;
        display: inline;
        font-size: 1em;
        }
       
#navBreadCrumb {
        padding: 0.5em 8px;
        background-color: transparent;
        font-size: 0.95em;
        font-weight: 700;
        margin: 16px 10px 5px 10px;
        }

#navEZPagesTop {
        margin: 0em;
        padding: 0.5em;
        background-color: transparent;
        font-size: 1.2em;
        font-weight: bold;
        color: #000;
        text-align: right;
}
       
#navEZPagesTop a {
text-decoration: none;
color: #787878;
        }       
#navEZPagesTop a:hover {
text-decoration: none;
color: navy;
        }
#navColumnOne {
        vertical-align: top;
        padding: 0 0 5px 0;
        }
#navColumnTwo {
        vertical-align: top;
        padding: 0 0 5px 0;
        }
/*The main content classes*/
#contentColumnMain, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .centerBoxContentsFeatured, .centerBoxContentsNew, .alert {
        vertical-align: top;
        background-color:#FFFFFF
        }

/*.content,*/ #productDescription, .shippingEstimatorWrapper {
        /*font-size: 1.2em;*/
        padding: 0.5em;
        background-color:#FFFFFF
        }

.italic {
        font-style: italic;
}       
       
.alert {
        color: #FF0000;
        margin-left: 0.5em;
        }
.advisory {}
.important {
        font-weight: bold;
        }
.notice {}
.rating{}
.gvBal {
        float: right;
        }
#bannerOne, #bannerTwo, #bannerThree, #bannerFour, #bannerFive, #bannerSix {
        padding: 0.8em;
        }
.centerColumn{
        padding: 0.8em;
font-size:1.2em;
        background-color: transparent;       
}       

.smallText, #siteinfoLegal, #siteinfoCredits, #siteinfoStatus, #siteinfoIP {
        font-size: 0.9em;
        }

/*Shopping Cart Display*/
#cartAdd {
        float: right;
        text-align: center;
        margin: 1em;
        border: 1px solid #000000;
        padding: 1em;
        }

.tableHeading TH {
        border-bottom: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
        background-color: navy;
}

.tableHeading, #cartSubTotal {
        background-color: #CEDBF2;
        }

#cartSubTotal {
        border-top: 1px solid #cccccc;
        font-weight: bold;
        text-align: right;
        line-height: 2.2em;
        padding-right: 2.5em;
        }

.tableRow, .tableHeading, #cartSubTotal {
        height: 2.2em;
        }

.cartProductDisplay, .cartUnitDisplay, .cartTotalDisplay, .cartRemoveItemDisplay, .cartQuantityUpdate, .cartQuantity, #cartInstructionsDisplay, .cartTotalsDisplay {
        padding: 0.5em 0em;
        }

.cartUnitDisplay, .cartTotalDisplay {
        text-align: right;
        padding-right: 0.2em;
        }

#scUpdateQuantity {
        width: 2em;
        }

.cartQuantity {
        width: 4.7em;
        }

.cartNewItem {
        color: #33CC33;
        position: relative;  /*do not remove-fixes stupid IEbug*/
        }

.cartOldItem {
        color: #660099;
        position: relative;  /*do not remove-fixes stupid IEbug*/
        }

.cartBoxTotal {
        text-align: right;
        font-weight: bold;
        }

.cartRemoveItemDisplay {
        width: 3.5em;
        }

.cartAttribsList {
        margin-left: 1em;
        }

#mediaManager {
        width: 50%;
        margin: 0.2em;
        padding: 0.5em;
        background-color: #E4FEf5;
        border: 1px solid #003D00;
        }

.normalprice, .productSpecialPriceSale {
        text-decoration: line-through;
        }

.productSpecialPrice, .productSalePrice, .productSpecialPriceSale, .productPriceDiscount {
        color: #ff0000;
        }

.orderHistList {
        margin: 1em;
        padding: 0.2em 0em;
        list-style-type: none;
        }

#cartBoxListWrapper ul, #ezPageBoxList ul {
        list-style-type: none;
        }

#cartBoxListWrapper li, #ezPageBoxList li, .cartBoxTotal {
        margin: 0;
        padding: 0.2em 0em;
        }

#cartBoxEmpty, #cartBoxVoucherBalance {
        font-weight: bold;
        }

.totalBox {
        width: 5.5em;
        text-align: right;
        padding: 0.2em;
        }

.lineTitle, .amount {
        text-align: right;
        padding: 0.2em;
        }

.amount {
        width: 5.5em;
        }

/*Image Display*/
#productMainImage, #reviewsInfoDefaultProductImage, #productReviewsDefaultProductImage, #reviewWriteMainImage {
        margin: 0em 1em 1em 0em ;
        }

.categoryIcon {}

#cartImage {
        margin: 0.5em 1em;
        }

/*Attributes*/
.attribImg {
        width: 20%;
        margin: 0.3em 0em;
}

.attributesComments {}

/*list box contents*/
.centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .centerBoxContentsFeatured, .centerBoxContentsNew {
        margin: 1em 0em;
        }

.centerBoxWrapper {
        border: 1px solid #9a9a9a;
        height: 1%;
        margin: 1.1em 0;
        width: %100;
        }

h2.centerBoxHeading {
        font-size: 1.3em;
        color: navy;
        }

/*sideboxes*/
.columnLeft {}

h3.leftBoxHeading, h3.leftBoxHeading a,
h3.rightBoxHeading, h3.rightBoxHeading a {
        color: navy;
        }
h3#manufacturersHeading, h3#currenciesHeading, h3#musicgenresHeading, h3#recordcompaniesHeading, h3#searchHeading, h3#search-headerHeading {
        color: navy;
}

.leftBoxHeading, .centerBoxHeading, .rightBoxHeading {
        margin: 0em;
        padding:.3em .2em;
        }
.leftBoxHeading, .rightBoxHeading {
background: transparent;
color: navy;
        }       
.leftBoxContainer, .rightBoxContainer {
        margin: 0em;
        border: 1px solid #000;
        border-width: 0 0 2px 0;
        margin-top: 1.5em;
        }

.sideBoxContent {
        background-color: transparent;
        padding: 0.4em;
        }
       
.sideBoxContent a:hover {
        text-decoration: none;
        color: #B6ABD5;
        }
a.sideBoxContent a {
        text-decoration: none;
        color: navy;
        }               

h3.leftBoxHeading a:hover, h3.rightBoxHeading a:hover {
        color: #FFFF33;
        text-decoration: none;
        }

.rightBoxHeading a:visited, .leftBoxHeading a:visited, .centerBoxHeading a:visited {
        color: #FFFFFF;
        }

.centeredContent, TH, #cartEmptyText, #cartBoxGVButton, #cartBoxEmpty, #cartBoxVoucherBalance, #navCatTabsWrapper, #navEZPageNextPrev, #bannerOne, #bannerTwo, #bannerThree, #bannerFour, #bannerFive, #bannerSix, #siteinfoLegal, #siteinfoCredits, #siteinfoStatus, #siteinfoIP, .center, .cartRemoveItemDisplay, .cartQuantityUpdate, .cartQuantity, .cartTotalsDisplay, #cartBoxGVBalance, .leftBoxHeading, .centerBoxHeading,.rightBoxHeading, .accountQuantityDisplay, .ratingRow, LABEL#textAreaReviews, #productMainImage, #reviewsInfoDefaultProductImage, #productReviewsDefaultProductImage, #reviewWriteMainImage, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .centerBoxContentsFeatured, .centerBoxContentsNew, .gvBal, .attribImg {
        text-align: center;
        }
#navEZPageNextPrev {
        padding: 10px 0;
}
#bestsellers .wrapper {
        margin: 0em 0em 0em 1.5em;
        }

#bestsellers ol {
        padding: 0;
        margin-left: 1.1em;
        }

#bestsellers li {
        padding: 0;
        margin: 0.3em 0em 0.3em 0em;
        }

#bannerboxHeading {
        background-color: transparent;
        color: navy;
}

#upProductsHeading {
        text-align: left;
        }

#upDateHeading {
        text-align: right;
        }

/* categories box parent and child categories */
a.category-top, a.category-top:visited {
        color: navy;
        text-decoration: none;
        font-size:1em;
        }
a.category-links, a.category-links:visited {
        color: navy;
        text-decoration: none;
        }
a.category-subs, a.category-products, a.category-subs:visited, a.category-products:visited {
        color: navy;
        text-decoration: none;
        }
SPAN.category-subs-parent {
        font-weight: bold;
        }
SPAN.category-subs-selected {
        font-weight: bold;
        }
       
category-top a:hover, category-links a:hover, category-subs a:hover, category-products a:hover {
        text-decoration: none;
        color: #B6ABD5;
}       
/* end categories box links */

/*misc*/
.back {
        float: left;
        }

.forward, #shoppingCartDefault #PPECbutton {
        float: right;
        }

.bold {
        font-weight: bold;
        }

.rowOdd {
        background-color: #E8E8E8;
        height: 1.5em;
        vertical-align: top;
        }

.rowEven {
        background-color: #F0F0F0;
        height: 1.5em;
        vertical-align: top;
        }

.hiddenField {
        display: none;
}
.visibleField {
        display: inline;
}

CAPTION {
        /*display: none;*/
        }

#myAccountGen li, #myAccountNotify li {
        margin: 0;
        }

.accountTotalDisplay, .accountTaxDisplay {
        width: 20%;
        text-align: right;
        /*vertical-align: top*/
        }

.accountQuantityDisplay {
        width: 10%;
        vertical-align: top
        }

TR.tableHeading {
        background-color: #cacaca;
        height: 2em;
        }

tr.productListing-rowheading,.tableHeading{background:#B6ABD5;font-size:1em;text-align:center;color:navy;height:24px;margin:0;padding:.5em 0.2em;}
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I can maybe get you started...

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i like this one "Home :: Candles :: Candle 1 "
but if you click the category "candles"

youll see the addition of "Home :: Candles :: Candle 1
Candles

under this..which is kind of over kill and i think it pushes the page down

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You have Categories-Tabs Menu turned on, which duplicates your categories in a row across the top of the page. Then you also have Breadcrumbs turned on, which is giving you that extra line of links below the category tabs. I too found that to be a bit much so I turned off the category tabs. You might want to try that, since you've got all the categories in their left sidebox anyway. You can find these settings in admin/configuration/layout settings.

HTH

Rob