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Just for fun I ran the security patch again before I started deleting stuff...voila, fixed! Thank you so much Steven300. Glad it was an easy fix for once :)

I was hoping there would be an easy answer but that was next on my list to try.

I guess that's possible, but now that I've done the upgrade to 1.8 wouldn't that go away? The security update was included with 1.8a right?

I finally upgraded to the latest version of zen and it went very easily for the most part. I am having one issue though. I *think* it actually started when I noticed something funky with my...