ozpost shipping module

[robbie269]

I can think of a couple of solutions though. Perhaps the easiest would be to adjust the product dimensions in such a way that it gives the output you need. If you could supply the URL to one one these products I may be able to help with that.

A URL is: http://www.thehorsestall.com.au/plus...se-gypsy-p-409
Use a non NSW postcode as I have Lime labels for Sydney. I don't have any labels for interstate, only satchels.

[RodG]

A URL is: http://www.thehorsestall.com.au/plus...se-gypsy-p-409

This has me a little bit puzzled.

According to the product description This measures 36cm high and 38cm long.
According to the data sent to the ozpost servers, this product is being quoted as
weight = 352gm
height=122mmwidth=242mm
length=292mm

IOW, the dimensions don't seem to match the product anyway.

What's more confusing (to me), is that the ozpost module is 'packing' 2 of these items 'end to end' rather than on top of each other. IOW, when two are added to the cart they are being quoted as

weight=704
height=122
width=242
length=582

Rather than my expected

weight=704
height=244mmwidth=242mm
length=292mm

I thought this was the cause of the non fitting at first, but a few checks indicate that either way is too large for the satchel.

In order to get two of these to 'fit' the A2 satchel, I need to reduce any one of the dimensions by ~10cm. I'm guessing that this is the amount that two of these can be overlapped? Alas, this seems a little *too* much (to me) to be able to do 'safely' based on the current dimensions given. In other words, this one is too difficult (at least for me) to resolve by simple 'tweaking' of the dimensions.

Furthermore, If the 36cm high and 38cm long measurements are correct, not even one of these should be fitting into the A2 satchel which measures 61cm x 45cm, unless the height/depth us 90mm or less.

Anyway, I think the 1st thing to do is enter *accurate* dimensions of the product first, and that will give me a new set of numbers to play with.

Cheers
RodG

[robbie269]

This has me a little bit puzzled.

According to the product description This measures 36cm high and 38cm long.
According to the data sent to the ozpost servers, this product is being quoted as
weight = 352gm
height=122mmwidth=242mm
length=292mm

IOW, the dimensions don't seem to match the product anyway.

The dimensions are different because when I measure the horse standing I measure from nose to tail. That is for the customer's information. When I pack for postage it's head and tail are tucked in.
For http://www.thehorsestall.com.au/plus...se-gypsy-p-409 the database measurements are: Weight 0.32 Length 24cm Width 14cm Height 33cm. Does it matter what order the height etc are in when it combines two?
I would rather it worked them out feet to top rather than head to tail. Then maybe I could adjust the height??

[RodG]

The dimensions are different because when I measure the horse standing I measure from nose to tail. That is for the customer's information. When I pack for postage it's head and tail are tucked in.
For http://www.thehorsestall.com.au/plus...se-gypsy-p-409 the database measurements are: Weight 0.32 Length 24cm Width 14cm Height 33cm.

OK, so I guess we can discuss this product rather than the previous one if you like :-)

Does it matter what order the height etc are in when it combines two?
I would rather it worked them out feet to top rather than head to tail. Then maybe I could adjust the height??

No, the 'order' doesn't make any difference. The ozpost module will always consider the largest dimension as the length, the next largest as the width, and the smallest as the depth/height.

So, with the dimensions of this new item, the server is seeing

1 item = ok
height=142
width=242
length=332

2 items stacked end to end = no go
height=142
width=242
length=662

2 items stacked one a top the other = no go
height=282
width=242
length=332

2 items stacked side by side = no go
height=142
width=482
length=332

In order to fit, the dimesions must meet the following conditions:
($parcelWidth + $parcelHeight) * 2 ) <= 450 * 2
($parcelLength + $parcelHeight) * 2 ) <= 610 * 2
$parcelLength <= 610
$parcelWidth <= 450

The 'end to end' fails because
(w242 +h142) * 2 ) = 768 <= 900 = PASS
(l662 + h142) * 2 ) = 1608 <= 1220 = FAIL

l662 <= 610 = FAIL
w242 <= 450 = PASS

The stacked one a top the other fails because
(w242 +h282) * 2 ) = 1048 <= 900 = FAIL
(l332 + h282) * 2 ) = 1228 <= 1220 = FAIL
l332 <= 610 = PASS
w242 <= 450 = PASS

The side by side fails because
(w482 +h142) * 2 ) = 1248 <= 900 = FAIL
(l332 + h142) * 2 ) = 948 <= 1220 = PASS
l332 <= 610 = PASS
w482 <= 450 = FAIL

In order to make 2 of these items fit into the A2 Satchel by changing the depth/height you will need dimensions of
height=200
width=242
length=332

IOW, the defined 'height' of the product will need to be reduced from 14cm down to 9.8cm (10 cm without tare)

or
height=142
width=242
length=468

IOW, the defined 'length' of the product will need to be reduced from 33cm down to (466/2)+2 = 23.3cm.

In short, this products dimensions will need to be
height=98
width=240
length=330

or
height=140
width=240
length=233

Rather than
height=140
width=240
length=330

Whether you actually want to do this is something for you to decide, and I guess the best thing to do this is giving it a go. About the only possible problem that I can forsee is that because the product defined dimensions are smaller than reality (depending on how well multiple items get packed) you *may* find yourself in the situation where the cubing rules *should* be applied, but won't be. If you've never been 'hit' by these rules when posting out orders in the past then this probably won't apply to you anyway.

OK, so now I've given the info needed for this particular product, I'll leave it for you to determine what is needed for other products of different sizes. This shouldn't be too difficult now that you know the 4 tests that it must pass to be considered suitable for the A2 Satchel. (As well as the 5kg weight limit).

Cheers
RodG

[robbie269]

Thank you Rod for the hard work. You're a legend.
I put the measurements for the plush horses as h=9.8 w=24 l=23.3 and it worked.
Will see how it goes....

[lat9]

Rod, is there a way to either print a shipping-label or to auto-generate a tracking link?

[RodG]

Rod, is there a way to either print a shipping-label or to auto-generate a tracking link?

Not from the shipping modules because things like the order number and tracking number aren't known until after the cart order has been submitted (order#) and after (or when) the booking for shipping has been made (tracking#).

IOW, this functionally needs to be handled at a point in time after the shipping/quote modules have done their thing.

Having said that, the ozpost module does contain support for the Australia Post 'Click n Send' web interface, which is a partial solution. It works by creating a CSV file(s) for a new orders using one of the Click n Send postage options. These CSV files can then be downloaded and imported into the AustPost server and bookings and label printing can be performed from there.

The CSV file(s) contain all the information needed to create shipping labels, so in theory, they should be able to be easily imported into almost any label making software.

Cheers
RodG

[vandiermen]

My client asks: "I am looking into the freight settings again. If I turn on use core weight to split parcels it adds weight to all products. E.g. A 3Amp reg that is 0.2kg is now 3.2kg. A package that is 40kg split says it is 22kg. Can you tell me which setting I am missing. Also I can see that there is an OzPost v3.6.5. Update available, is this something that should be done? Is it something that I can do?"
We are using V3.6.2 with AustPost and FastWay, is there a benefit in upgrading to v3.6.5?

without core weight

Debugging information

Item 1-1
3Amp Water Resistant Solar Panel Regulator
Parcel

Weight
  200g
Items
 1
Weight
 200g

Dimensions
  10.00 x 7.00 x 3.00
 10.00 x 7.00 x 3

Cube / Weight
  210cc / 0.0525kg
 210cc / 0.0525kg


Calculated: Length=10.20cm, Width=7.20cm, Height=3.20cm, Weight=200g, NumBoxes=1

Using a tare weight of 0%%


QueryString
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Server #1 response time 0.752ms


Shipping quotes are based on the address information you selected:
(0.2 kg) BOORAL 4655 to 5000 Australia

Available Shipping Methods
Rates

  A3 Satchel (BLUE)

3 Days Estimated Delivery. 
$12.95

  500g Satchel +Signature

7 Days Estimated Delivery. 
$13.20

  500g Express Satchel +Signature

1 Days Estimated Delivery. 
$15.50

  Label (GREEN)

3 Days Estimated Delivery. 
$27.30

with core weight:

Debugging information

Item 1-1
3Amp Water Resistant Solar Panel Regulator
Parcel

Weight
  200g
Items
 1
Weight
 200g

Dimensions
  10.00 x 7.00 x 3.00
 10.00 x 7.00 x 3

Cube / Weight
  210cc / 0.0525kg
 210cc / 0.0525kg


Calculated: Length=10.20cm, Width=7.20cm, Height=3.20cm, Weight=3200g, NumBoxes=1

Using a tare weight of 0%%


QueryString
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Server #1 response time 1.149ms


Shipping quotes are based on the address information you selected:
(3.2 kg) BOORAL 4655 to GLENELG 5045 Australia

Available Shipping Methods
Rates

  A2 Satchel (BLUE)

3 Days Estimated Delivery. 
$14.95

  5kg Satchel +Signature

7 Days Estimated Delivery. 
$22.05

  Label (GREEN)

3 Days Estimated Delivery. 
$27.30

 5kg Express Satchel +Signature

1 Days Estimated Delivery. 
$29.10

[RodG]

My client asks: "I am looking into the freight settings again. If I turn on use core weight to split parcels it adds weight to all products. E.g. A 3Amp reg that is 0.2kg is now 3.2kg. A package that is 40kg split says it is 22kg. Can you tell me which setting I am missing.

https://www.zen-cart.com/content.php?127

Also I can see that there is an OzPost v3.6.5. Update available, is this something that should be done? Is it something that I can do?"

Yes and Yes

We are using V3.6.2 with AustPost and FastWay, is there a benefit in upgrading to v3.6.5?

Probably not. The most significant difference has been to the installation/update code itself and the addition of TNT support via Transdirect.

There will be another update coming out 'soon' that adds support for Hunter Express.

Cheers
RodG

[lucidlee]

Rod
I'm having trouble with SkippyPost. For some reason its producing outrageous results compared to Auspost:
[CODE]

Debugging information
Item 1-1	Living Meridian Location Wallchart - TCM			Parcel
Weight			320g	Items	1	Weight	320g
Dimensions	70.00 x 10.00 x 10.00			70.00 x 10.00 x 10
Cube / Weight	7000cc / 1.75kg			7000cc / 1.75kg
Item 2-1	Living Meridian Location Wallchart - Zen			Parcel
Weight			320g	Items	2	Weight	640g
Dimensions	70.00 x 10.00 x 10.00			70.00 x 10.00 x 20
Cube / Weight	7000cc / 1.75kg			14000cc / 3.5kg
Item 3-1	Living Meridian Location Wallchart - Combined TCM & Zen			Parcel
Weight			320g	Items	3	Weight	960g
Dimensions	70.00 x 10.00 x 10.00			70.00 x 20 x 20
Cube / Weight	7000cc / 1.75kg			28000cc / 7kg