UPS and USPS shipping modules not showing

[jupitergardens]

zen cart = most recent version
I have numix's FedEx module (shows just fine)
I disabled all my free shipping options/rules
I have the USPS module set as sort order 1
zone equals --none--
my logon info is there and it's the same as I've used on other sites, so I know it works
choices express, priority, parcel

the UPS module is sort order 2
zone equals --none--
no place to input logon/developer key info
offering ground only

The only zone I have setup in my shop is my local state for state sales tax. I have tried creating an All US states zone, and tried creating a world zone -- no change.

Any ideas?

If I disable/remove the fedex installs, I see the green dots showing good configuration, but there are no shipping options to either my address (or another one in my state) or out of state.

Thanks!

[jupitergardens]

Never mind.... I was mixing virtual and physical products. I needed to choose "special" on my virtual products, otherwise I think I just confused the poor system. Thanks!!!!!!