Better Together Contribution Support Thread

**pivey** · 17 Oct 2006, 04:29 PM

Now guess what....it works after updating the Master_Category ID to be nonzero
"0"

For the people with the same issue:
I used Easy Populate to load my shop data. This caused many of my products master categories to be zero (0)
In this case, all Master_Categories have to updated to contain a non zero value.
Scott's documentation does explain in detail how to do this.

Thanks a lot Scott.
Really helpful contribution as it was missing so far.

I just realized that ZC is related to MySQL

... I better start learn some more stuff

**swguy** · 17 Oct 2006, 04:34 PM

Thanks for the update, pivey. Meanwhile, I have posted a message to the Easy Populate thread about your problem; perhaps a future version of Easy Populate will fix this.

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showth...614#post278614

Regards,
Scott

**swguy** · 25 Oct 2006, 01:34 AM

Another suggestion has been added to the Better Together FAQ:

http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca..._together.html

If you are concerned that people don't know they might have a discount coming
when they look at their cart, try changing SUB_TITLE_SUB_TOTAL in includes/languages/english/shopping_cart.php

to something like 'Sub-Total BEFORE Discount'
This will emphasize the fact that a discount will be added at checkout time.

Good luck,
Scott

**pivey** · 25 Oct 2006, 09:29 AM

Yes, this would be a solution, but customers actually need to see what they are earning in discounts. The only way to do this, is to always going forward checkout 2 steps.
Not very user friendly.
Customers should have their deduction displayed in their shopping cart.
If not substracted, at least somehow "savings from discounts" displayed always visible.
This is an essential (marketing) feature to shopping carts, should have been added in development.

**swguy** · 25 Oct 2006, 11:24 AM

Easier said than done. Anyone can load items in the cart and click the shopping cart page, even before logging in. Having no idea of their address, how then would I compute the discount, which may include shipping and/or tax? What about the order in which order_total items are applied, which affects the computation of discounts such as the group discount?

If you can guarantee me certain pre-conditions, then yes, I could integrate this logic with shopping_cart.php, which draws the shopping cart page. But then who's going to port this every time shopping_cart.php changes (which is pretty much every release)?

Having said all that, of course I would be delighted to rewrite this code to your personal
specifications. Just give me a statement of work and your credit card number and I'll
have it done in no time!

Scott

**pivey** · 25 Oct 2006, 11:54 AM

Hi Scott.

..should have been added in development

means, that the shopping cart page could have been optimized to display all savings from purchases, not only your contribution ones.

I just asked myself why this possibility is not given as long customers(e.g. purchasing specials) whould be happier to have a "tatal of savings" substrarcted from their total, or at least mentioned.
I mean, it is displayed in product detail as "You save.." without taking care of additional savings (shipping/tax) at that point.
Even to customers not logged in...

So please don't take peoples comments personal.
This is not a issue concernig just me. I thing every shop owner would be glad to offer this option to his customer instead of telling him "proceed checkout and you WILL see what you pay in total.

**swguy** · 27 Oct 2006, 11:07 AM

A lot of people have asked for this sort of capability. Unfortunately, the model I had of how this would work was so hideously complex that I always resisted doing it. I've worked out a more straightforward preview capability that I'm testing now. Details shortly.

Scott

**swguy** · 28 Oct 2006, 02:52 AM

Here it is.

http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca...t_preview.html

Scott

**swguy** · 31 Oct 2006, 01:48 PM

Better Together interoperates with 1.3.6. There have been changes to the tax computation in other order total modules that I may incorporate (possibly optionally) at a later date.

Thanks,
Scott