Stock by Attribute v4.0 addon for v1.3.5-1.3.9

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Originally Posted by athena

I've read here that one of the originators has a working version but is hesitant to submit it due to the many modifications done to the original mod without the original submitter being consulted.

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And that's been precisely why the code is fragmented right now.. Consult the original submitter about WHAT??? It's OPEN SOURCE for goodness sakes!!!!

If there is no active "maintainer" (to borrow a Drupal term) and you want to update the add-on, and can do it so it's tested and bug free, then by all means DO IT gosh darn it.. You won't be stepping on anyone's toes. If you have ideas for an update and there is an active "maintainer", then contact them about working together.. (that's JUST how the PDF packingslip was added to Super Orders)

The REAL originator of SBA, Kuroi stopped updating this as of v4.7, and has said openly LONG ago that he will be making NO FURTHER updates to this mod.. So no offense, but what is this person waiting for???

Seems like NO ONE wants to just submit a bloody update and be done with it.. So folks have submitted these variants because they didn't want to ruffle someone's feathers.. I don't get it.. :no:

I have identified what looks like three variants to this mod

1. Stock by Attributes
2. Stock by Attributes 4.7Multiadd WITH TABLE FILTER 1.6
3. StockByAttributes with my stock id MOD 1.0.0

If what you say is true then it means there is now a FORTH variant of SBA floating around???

from what I can tell there's no reason why any of these variants should have been split off from the original at all.. Seems most were split off just to add one or two additional features and the submitter didn't want to step on the originators toes... so they submitted a NEW version?????? (WTH??) Bloody hell!!!! Why???

If someone has a working version of this mod where the functionality off all three variants has been consolidated and is WORKING bug free (relatively), then for goodness sakes.. SUBMIT the darn thing!!!

done ranting..:blush:

The last person that kindly updated the mod, thanking everyone here for bringing the error to their attention was contacted by a few of us over the months to alert him/her that the change was flawed.

They provided rude pm responses to our friendly let-me-help-you-test-it inquiries. Not very zen-like.

Understandably we now tread lightly.

Kuroi has been great BTW hanging in there so long and helping where the code was theirs.

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Originally Posted by athena

The last person that kindly updated the mod, thanking everyone here for bringing the error to their attention was contacted by a few of us over the months to alert him/her that the change was flawed.

They provided rude pm responses to our friendly let-me-help-you-test-it inquiries. Not very zen-like.

Understandably we now tread lightly.

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and I understand why you would be hesitant to jump in to assist anyone else after that less than warm reception.. I find it interesting when poeple get mad when you find an issue with something when you bring it to their attention.. I especially am irked when you offer to help, and then get your nose bitten off.. Not Zen like at all..:no:

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Originally Posted by athena

Kuroi has been great BTW hanging in there so long and helping where the code was theirs.

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Agree Kuroi is awesome! And his continued input here has been invaluable..

However, IMHO SBA versions which have followed Kuroi's last release have been flawed and buggy.. the multiple variants and bugs found in all three variants make this an unreliable mod for production use. Those using it will no doubt disagree. So I say that when the common questions being asked in this thread begin to be more about the usual install errors and less about flaws in functionality that's when IMHO this mod will be a reliable add-on again..

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Originally Posted by mysh

For the most part this is how I want it. I don't want the out of stock items to disappear from the dropdown. I prefer they stay in the dropdown with the out of stock text.

The perfect scenerio would be to have a pop up warning come up when someone tries to add a out of stock item, but I'll settle for the warning in the cart for now. Most people won't add a item that clearly states out of stock next to it(i hope)

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Mysh,

have you looked at this module- "product attribute grid" http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=876 which will give you a grid showing the qty in stock and grey out the box if it is out of stock.

it might be one answer which gets you the same result even if it is not the neatest or most sophisticated finish.

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

and I understand why you would be hesitant to jump in to assist anyone else after that less than warm reception.. I find it interesting when poeple get mad when you find an issue with something when you bring it to their attention.. I especially am irked when you offer to help, and then get your nose bitten off.. Not Zen like at all..:no:


Agree Kuroi is awesome! And his continued input here has been invaluable..

However, IMHO SBA versions which have followed Kuroi's last release have been flawed and buggy.. the multiple variants and bugs found in all three variants make this an unreliable mod for production use. Those using it will no doubt disagree. So I say that when the common questions being asked in this thread begin to be more about the usual install errors and less about flaws in functionality that's when IMHO this mod will be a reliable add-on again..

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For the record I could care less about stepping on toes... My MOD serves a diffrent purpose (having part numbers for every variant). The creation was strickly self served, I needed it to do this, so I did it. Sharing it in case anyone else wanted it was as Zen like as I could be :smile:. I did find a few bugs in the release I started with and have fixed them. The latest version is pending approval. If you have tried my version and found bugs, let me know and I will fix it if I can... http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191415 You could always clean up SBA yourself and post it as the new bug free version. :P

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Originally Posted by rhuseby

For the record I could care less about stepping on toes... My MOD serves a diffrent purpose (having part numbers for every variant). The creation was strickly self served, I needed it to do this, so I did it. Sharing it in case anyone else wanted it was as Zen like as I could be :smile:.

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I looked at your version and did a file comparison.. The ONLY difference was the addition of the part numbers as part of the variant. I do believe this option could have been added into the core as an admin configurable option for others who needed the same functionality without requiring the creation of a completely separate SBA mod.. 'tis all I was saying..:yes:

Other variants of SBA have included similar alleged "one-off" features that I believe also could have been made admin configurable options without splitting off as a new variant.

The fact that this support thread is LITTERED with posts from different variants of this one mod, the fact that there are at MULTIPLE threads covering SBA "support" is a testament to how this code fragmentation has become problematic. People say they are using the lastest version, but WHICH version is the one they are using the latest version of??? There are bugs in each one of these versions, some carried over from the versions they are based on, some are new bugs introduced in the enhanced features that these versions bring..

It's why I say that SBA as a whole is unreliable for a production store at this moment. Others are free to disagree.. I still think the only STABLE version is Kuroi's last release of SBA (v4.7).. I get that each release after v4.7 was trying to improve upon Kuroi's 4.7 release, but there are bugs in each one of these variants.

ETA: Speaking of variants.. here's the FOURTH SBA variant I found: http://www.luxuriousslippers.com/Sto...s_V5.0Beta.zip

I don't think this one ever was submitted to the downloads section..

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Originally Posted by rhuseby

You could always clean up SBA yourself and post it as the new bug free version. :P

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You know what?? You are absolutely right.. I sure could clean up SBA and submit it if...

• I had time
• didn't have PAYING clients (who will come first)
• didn't have a full time job
• wasn't working on updating the 4 or 5 mods that I have been actively involved in maintaining already..

Yep I sure could work on SBA too..:yes: if I had time:no:.. in the meantime I've decided to contribute my three cents instead.:laugh: Hoping whomever decides to update this for v1.5 decides to stop the madness and put all these variants into ONE version of SB that covers all (or many at least)..

Hi,

I hate to jump in here with a post, as I notice a lot of anger within the thread - which I can really understand.

I set up ZC 1.5 for a small shop. I want to stock-take items as individuals (e.g. XL/blue, XL/white, XXL/white etc.). I loaded up one variant of SBA only to find that the "readme" does not fully relate to the files given. Anyway, the whole thing went haywire and I had to get a server roll-back. I checked other add-ons only to find they are basically all the same.

I take it that SBA does not work with 1.5, it does not work properly, it has no author support and it is not worthwhile.

I take it then that my only option is to list each item as is, meaning singly, and not in a group thus not being able to link them through drop-downs?

Being new here I do not know if there is a process for all the millions of ZC users to request add-ons be implemented as standard in the next release.

Mark

Hey spbw, I sense no anger, just a lively discussion.

As a new zenner, this is my must have feature, and, imho, it should be a feature of all shopping carts.

Having said that, prior to using zen cart, I did some checking and found that SBA has not been adapted to v1.5, so I made the choice to install v1.3.9h, where SBA does work. When SBA is ready for v1.5, I will upgrade. It is not a show stopper.

People who develop free add ons must do so in their free time because they have to make a living. While it would be nice to have all add ons ready to go when a new version of zen cart is rolled out, it will never happen.

Thanks Coopco, "lively discussion" it is then. :laugh:

I hate the thoughts of wiping 1.5 and going back to 1.3 for one add-on that does not work. We are not commercial, just people who like beer and have a few clothing items for members. I guess there is a sound reason for the jump from 1.3 to 1.5, so maybe I will just set up individual items rather than go backwards.

I suppose I am used to PHPBB forums and the Mods & support structure (those guys do the same thing on their own time - and I do understand the time & commitment they give for free).

Mark

No worries spbw. If you have zen cart installed under wamp for testing, you do not have to lose what you have done so far.

My zen cart site is installed under wamp, and I am testing add ons.

When finished testing, and understanding zen cart as oppossed to the mother cart, I will go live and convert my existing site.