Ceon URI Mapping (SEO)

Many thanks for all of your suggestions. I have however previously upgraded the module five times but the issue remains the same.

I will upgrade to 3.6.1 but dont hold out much hope that it will cure the issue !

I will also update the .htaccess file which I assume is included in 3.6.1

David

Hi David,

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Originally Posted by davidmorrisuk

Many thanks for all of your suggestions. I have however previously upgraded the module five times but the issue remains the same.

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Yes, I'd imagine it will as this problem is not a problem with the module. As I said, it can't return random results, that's an impossibility.

The only thing that can be happening is that your host's MySQL server is returning different results for the same query.

That would suggest different data being present in different "instances" (I don't know the terminology I'm afraid) of the load balanced servers.

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Originally Posted by davidmorrisuk

I will also update the .htaccess file which I assume is included in 3.6.1

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Yes, your .htaccess file is well out of date, the new one is that little bit more efficient. It won't affect the issues you're having though.. only your host can sort those issues out.

All the best..

Conor
ceon

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Originally Posted by davidmorrisuk

Many thanks for all of your suggestions. I have however previously upgraded the module five times but the issue remains the same.

I will upgrade to 3.6.1 but dont hold out much hope that it will cure the issue !

I will also update the .htaccess file which I assume is included in 3.6.1

David

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I agree with Conor, though I am not a programmer, after years of working in software development I do understand how software works.. Looking at Ceon URI's backend, the issue you are describing CANNOT possibly be caused by the Ceon URI module.. The way Ceon URI works cannot cause the issues you are describing..

If your host INSISTS that this module (Ceon URI) is the cause of your issues, then they should help you resolve this by providing more CONCRETE data than they have been provided to back up this assertion (which I will guess they will not be able to do). If they are so sure that this module is the cause, they should be able to provide a SPECIFIC reason why they've come to that conclusion..

Good luck..

Hi,

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

I agree with Conor, though I am not a programmer, after years of working in software development I do understand how software works.. Looking at Ceon URI's backend, the issue you are describing CANNOT possibly be caused by the Ceon URI module.. The way Ceon URI works cannot cause the issues you are describing..

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Yes, that's strangely one of the things about computing that once you grasp you really do become much better at fixing problems.. computers can't do random.. it's an impossibility (well, outside of hardware failure).. as mathematical machines everything is inherently predictable... so if "unexpected" results are occurring then what is happening is simply not what you thought was happening, the process isn't what you thought it was/is! :)

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

If your host INSISTS that this module (Ceon URI) is the cause of your issues, then they should help you resolve this by providing more CONCRETE data than they have been provided to back up this assertion (which I will guess they will not be able to do).

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They absolutely can't as the data is irrelevant in this case.. the same "SELECT" query/command should always return the same results.. different results means different data is being examined.

I'd imagine once the load balanced servers are properly put in sync this problem will have been fixed.

All the best..

Conor
ceon

Hi Conor I know I read this somewhere on the thread but since all the updates I will ask it again. It I already have an online store with 1000's of products will this module automatically Manage URL Aliases for me or just when you add a new product. In other words do I have to set my product manually in my store to point to the URL I want it to use. Thank You

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Originally Posted by countrycharm

Hi Conor I know I read this somewhere on the thread but since all the updates I will ask it again. It I already have an online store with 1000's of products will this module automatically Manage URL Aliases for me or just when you add a new product. In other words do I have to set my product manually in my store to point to the URL I want it to use. Thank You

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If you have an existing store, you will have to generate the URLs for each product when you first implement Ceon URI.. That's the bad news.. BUT if you are comfortable working directly in your database, you can upload all of your initial product URIs directly into the database.. (This is what I have done for two existing sites with large numbers of products) AND you can upload the URLS your product are currently using/generating using SSU so that you don't lose any SEO momentum.. After the initial URI population, if you have the settings configured to use the auto-generation of Ceon URI, then your URIs will be generated as you crate new products/categories...

Conor, I'm in the process of upgrading to v3.6.1 of the URI Mapping module and have a teeny suggestion for the future installation.

For ZC v1.3.9b, the install overwrites /includes/init_includes/init_canonical.php ... but it doesn't have to! If you place your version of the file in /includes/init_includes/overrides/init_canonical.php, the standard ZC loader will use that version instead of the default.

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

If you have an existing store, you will have to generate the URLs for each product when you first implement Ceon URI.. That's the bad news.. BUT if you are comfortable working directly in your database, you can upload all of your initial product URIs directly into the database.. (This is what I have done for two existing sites with large numbers of products) AND you can upload the URLS your product are currently using/generating using SSU so that you don't lose any SEO momentum.. After the initial URI population, if you have the settings configured to use the auto-generation of Ceon URI, then your URIs will be generated as you crate new products/categories...

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Thank You I will have to think about this for a while. I don't mind working in my database at all. I need to figure out how to go about the process first. I use Simple Seo with no problems, but I thought I would look into Conors since there is a little more support and no big cache files to be cached on my sever. Thank You again

Hi,

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Originally Posted by lat9

If you place your version of the file in /includes/init_includes/overrides/init_canonical.php

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Argh, I thought I'd done that. Obviously I haven't. I've also missed another file which is supposed to be in /includes/init_includes/overrides

Will have to get version 3.6.2 created and out soon then.

It never ends!

(As you can see in the installation docs, the file includes/init_includes/init_ceon_uri_mapping.php is listed in both "new files" and "updated core files"... that wasn't supposed to be!).

All the best..

Conor
ceon

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Originally Posted by countrycharm

Thank You I will have to think about this for a while. I don't mind working in my database at all. I need to figure out how to go about the process first. I use Simple Seo with no problems, but I thought I would look into Conors since there is a little more support and no big cache files to be cached on my sever. Thank You again

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You're welcome.. For the sites I did this to, I used a spreadsheet to manage/setup the URIs. Then I simply uploaded the complete spreadsheet to the correct table..