Better Together Contribution Support Thread

hmmm...i am confused now.
i am here: /public_html/includes/templates/GinghamBlue/templates
and inside that folder are these:
tpl_better_together_marketing.php
tpl_better_together_marketing_images.php
tpl_better_together_xsells.php
tpl_bettertogether_promo_default.php
tpl_product_info_display.php

i have already done the marketing customization to this file:
tpl_product_info_display.php
with this code:
<?php
require($template->get_template_dir('/tpl_better_together_marketing.php',DIR_WS_TEMPLATE,
$current_page_base,'templates'). '/tpl_better_together_marketing.php');
?>

am i not supposed to add my cross sell coding to the same file (as my other better together discounts): ot_better_together.php

*note, my better together discounts ARE showing up on each associated product page. but i am stumped as to how to get my cross sells to show up on those specified pages.

did that make sense?
this should be my last hurdle for this mod (i hope), so hopefully i won't need to keep bugging you!
thanks again:)

Please read the instructions on installing the marketing text. All the way through. This tells you how to advertise your cross sells.

http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca...html#marketing

ok...i got it now. i was misunderstanding how the cross-selling worked. i thought it was if you looked at ONE item, it would recommend ONE other item! obviously not the case! WHEW!

but my box looks like the screen shot...the linked items aren't side by side like in your example?
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x.../Capture-1.jpg

This tells me you didn't use my CSS. You need to use ./includes/templates/custom/css/stylesheet_bettertogether_product.css (particularly the .centerBoxContentsBTXSell markup) if you want it to look like mine. (And maybe more adjustment, depending on what you've done.)

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Originally Posted by swguy

This tells me you didn't use my CSS. You need to use ./includes/templates/custom/css/stylesheet_bettertogether_product.css (particularly the .centerBoxContentsBTXSell markup) if you want it to look like mine. (And maybe more adjustment, depending on what you've done.)

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ahhhh! ok...i will go back and take a look. THANKS!

i got it! thanks:)

swguy, first off, thanks for your contributions, love them, appreciate the time you put in.

I tried searching for this, but not sure how to word it, and can't find the answer.

Is there a way to do "buy X# of X product, get Y free?" For example, I sell ice cream pints, and want to do "buy 3 pints, get 1 whipped cream free!"

Thanks for the help.

You can't do this with Better Together.

I have installed the mod and updated the tpl product info display. But all i get is the words BB beneath the product description nstead of the promotion text.
The side box works fine
I am using 1.3.9.
the link is :
http://www. orispace.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=1228

Any pointers to what i am doing wrong?
I have not gone admin mod yet.

Any assistance much appreciated

Yesterday I bought the product Better Togrther Admin... I installed step by step following the instructions. I'm using Zencart 1.3.8a . The result is ... Better Together Admin works fine in the admin... but in the store nothing happen.
If you add to cart the product in the place where is supossed to see the promotion deal it says:

You may want to add some instructions for using the shopping cart here. (defined in includes/languages/english/shopping_cart.php)


That is a text that never was showed before. I wrote to the author but he offer me a support for an extra payment of u$60. So in my opinion, I think that the product should be $120 instead $60. LOL

I tested the product in another domain with Zen Cart 1.3.9, using a different template and the result is the same.

Hundreds have had success with my commercial mods, thousands with my free ones, but I guess no solution is right for everyone. Your money was being refunded as you were writing that post; it's not worth my while to have complaining customers.

When a client buy a product is because is interested to have it working... not because they want spend money. The fact to refund a payment to a client that didn't claim it is like you say "You know what? I don't care your business! and I have not time your you."

Not very nice. Uh?

Hi,

Sorry to jump in here, but I figured I'd add my 2 cents. I also purchased some products from this company and couldn't get it to work. The problem is NOT with the products, but rather how you install them. So if you're not getting the results you want, trust me on this... contact the company and ask them to do it for you. His prices are reasonable and it will be worth every dollar. Within a few hours, EVERYTHING was working. And I know it's not only my experience because I read all the reviews on this company first.

So take it from me, the products are GREAT. And it doesn't cost a lot to get it done right.

Yes, I know! actually I purchase it because I see a lot of great reviews. The problem is I'm unemployed and I have not money in this moment. I will wait to earn some more to pay him $120 to let the problems out of my over stressed head.

Thanks for your opinion.

PROBLEM SOLVED. That Software Guy could fix the problem. Thanks for your service man!

is there a way to avoid the Better Together discount from being applied when a coupon is being used?

Nothing is built in to do this.

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Originally Posted by swguy

Nothing is built in to do this.

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do you offer customization for this?

Response by email.

before I install this add-on, could anyone tell me if it is relatively easy to set up BOGOF across all my products w/o needing to associate every product with every other product in the code? I sell only one type of item w/ only one single price for all items, and I simply want BOGO across the entire store. Is this easy to do with this mod? Thank you!

With Better Together, you'd have to associate every item with every other item.

I'm using Zen Cart version 1.3.8

I installed the Better Together add on and I would like to offer if the customer buys $100.00 worth of Gift Certificates, they will get a FREE $20.00 gift certificate.

Is there a way to do this through Better Together?

My site is:
http://www.mannyschophouse.com

Thank you,

Jim Denny

Better Together is "Buy A, get B at a discount."

"Spend $X in category A, get B at a discount" is a different problem.

I have am testing this mod for a client and looking to meet their needs for a Buy 2 items at the regular price and get the third item for free.

I see in the ot_better_together.php in the modules\order_total

that is is capable of computing a 2 for 1 for a product and its capable of computing a 2 for 1 for products in an entire category.

What I am looking for is to have it compute for a 3 for 1 in both.

I have been able to effect some changes but not the right discount calculations needed at step 2 of the checkout process.

Is there any one that help guide me to where I can make the necessary changes or how it would be done.

Thanks!

Response by PM.

Thanks so much for making this mod!! Just installed it on a ZC v1.3.9b and ran into a couple issues.

1) I added code where if a customer buys a certain product they can get 50% off a handful of others (each one was in a separate line of code). It worked perfect on the store pages, but upon checkout the discount was only showing for the first of the 50% items listed in the code. So if you had some of the others that were allowed the 50%, their discounts weren't being added to the total discounted. I got around this my just offering a single 50% item, but would like the option to do more.

2) Added the code to display the "Items you might also be interested in" at the bottom of some of the product pages. Only problem is the product thumbs stack vertically, not in a 3x horizontal grid.

Any suggestions for fixing these 2 issues? Again, thanks for the awesome mod.

Question 1: see PM.
Question 2: The cross sell display uses the columnar display template; perhaps you have customized that?

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Originally Posted by swguy

Question 1: see PM.
Question 2: The cross sell display uses the columnar display template; perhaps you have customized that?

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Wow that was the fastest response I've ever gotten on a forum.

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Question 2: The cross sell display uses the columnar display template; perhaps you have customized that?

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I can't remember about the template you mentioned, I did mod some CSS for colors at one point. Can you point me to where the columnar display template is located?

Thank you very much for creating this awesome module!

How would I go about implementing the following scenario?

Say I sell shirts and pants. Shirts belong to category one and pants belong to category two. If I enter the following, customers receive $1 off every shirt when they purchase a pair of pants:

Code:

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$this->add_cat_to_cat(2,1,"$", 1);

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Is there any way to limit the amount of discounts? I want customers to only receive $1 off, regardless if they purchase one shirt and one pair of pants or 100 shirts and 100 pair of pants.

I hope that makes sense. Thank you in advance for any help.

Limits like this are not built in to Better Together. See PM for other ideas.

Thank you.

Is there any way to change the centerbox's text? I want it to say something other than "Buy this item, get an item...".

The text is generated by Better Together itself. There's no easy way to change it.

Hello everyone,Haven't installed it yet- but thanks for Releasing it Scott! I have a client that is interested already - will let you know if we have any problems.Thanks.

Just installed this add-on...very nice!

I have noticed that when recalculating tax (Standard), I get extra tax for shipping that is already included in my taxable base.

Here's the order in which I want this to work...

Order Subtotal (sort order 100)
BT Discount (sort order 150 - include tax = F, recalculate tax = Standard)
Shipping (sort order 200 - shipping is taxable goods)
Tax (sort order 300)
Order total (sort order 999)

I have coded $this->add_cat_to_cat(38, 38, "%", 100); (BOGO in the same category)

I put two $10 items from the same category in the cart - tax rate is 9%.

$20.00 Sub-Total: - Correct
-$10.00 Better Together Discount: - Correct
$5.50 Table Rate (2-3 Day USPS): - Correct

$1.90 Tax: - Incorrect - should be ($20 - 10 + 5.50) * .09 = 1.40 (the extra $0.50 is 9% of the 5.50 shipping again)

$17.40 Total: - Incorrect - should be $16.90

Anyone seen this?

Here's what I want to do:
Customer buys product A with option 1 and product B with option 1 and gets a discount.

Customer buys product A with option 1 and B with option 2 and gets no discount.

Customer buys product A with option 2 and B with option 2 and gets a discount.

Is this possible?

No - Better Together does not consider attributes.

Thanks for the mod. This is what I would like to do. If a customer by at least $100.00 of product378, 411, 0r 412, they receive product y in category 1 at half price.

This is what I have

$this->add_prod_to_cat(378,1,"%", 50);
$this->add_prod_to_cat(411,1,"%", 50);
$this->add_prod_to_cat(412,1,"%", 50);

How would I set a condition where the total would hae to be equal to or greater than $100.00.

TIA Tom :cool:

Better Together does not do this sort of thing. See PM.

Hello, I use zencart 1.3.8a and I would be maybe interested by Better Together module. But I don't know if that fit my requirements. I haven't find the answer yet. Maybe because I'm not fluent in english. I would like to offer the folowing discount :

If you buy any product from the catalog, get the item X a discount.

Thanks in advance

Better Together does not do this type of discounting.

Is there a way to set it to do something like:
buy 12 of product A, get 6 of product B Free?

If not, other suggestions???

Thanks!!!

It is not possible to do buy 12 get 6 free with Better Together. See PM.

Hi question for software guy, great module by the way. I have just installed it and thought it was the answers to my prayers but not so sure now ... basically I thought that I could code it so that the offer would be buy productId 49, 50, 55, 57 and get 40 free for example. Is this not possible??:flex:

This is not possible with Better Together. See PM.

Hello, we have the better together mod and admin panel and sinse we upgraded the site it no longer shows the discounts on product or at checkout, we have 1.3.9h :shocking:

Then you've done something wrong in your upgrade. It works fine in 1.3.9.

i might have found a code error, where can i report it? here?

Rob

Well, normally I use the cone of silence, but just this once I guess we can use the Zen Cart forum.

these relate to a </span> tag which the problem still exists on your site

it appeared in tpl_better_together_marketing.php line 18
echo '<span class="bbn_button_noimg">' . $marketing_data[$i]['bbn_string'] . '</span">';
i only noticed whilst i was removing errors from my pages, i noticed a " before the >
echo '<span class="bbn_button_noimg">' . $marketing_data[$i]['bbn_string'] . '</span>';

this appeared in
tpl_better_together_marketing_images.php
tpl_bettertogether_promo_default.php

one of these, is a paid for and was different to what's up there, i did download the promo one from your site and the (im assuming its an error) error still exists

Rob

Better Together 2.3a (July 23, 2010) fixed this for the main module.
You're right, I still had a link to the old zip which I hosted, even though I fixed it in the Zen Cart download area. Bad idea - removed.
And it *was* a bug in Add Both to Cart, which I just fixed.

Thanks for reporting this!
Scott

Zen 1.3.9h

http://www.helibenchstock.com

I just installed better together. I am very ignorent when it comes to any type of programming. I have one category named hardware and 3 sub categories that I want buy one get any other of equal or lesser value free from any of those 3 categories.

I added these linkages which I do not know if they are correct:

function setup() {
$this->add_cat_to_cat(5,5,"%", 100);
$this->add_cat_to_cat(4,4,"%", 100);
$this->add_cat_to_cat(6,6,"%", 100);
$this->add_cat_to_cat(5,4,"%", 100);
$this->add_cat_to_cat(5,6,"%", 100);
$this->add_cat_to_cat(4,6,"%", 100);

}

But during step two of check out I do not see any discount. Please help.

Thank you.

Category problems are very common. Here are some things to look at:

http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca...ry_issues.html

Thank you for the link swguy...but I am still very lost. Is my linkage code correct? Each number up there is a sub category to my main category which is hardware.

For example: I got the numbers from the zen cart admin \
Screws=4
washers=5
nuts=6

So I have them all linked. Should this work assuming everything else is correct?

Hi all, I have copied all the better together files into myt server but the Better Together Discount option does not appear under admin->module->order total ..


I want to buy the admin panel as well but I have to fix this part first..
Any idea about this issue??

Thanks in advance

Are you sure there aren't other issues preventing you from completely loading this page? For example, do you see the page footer in admin->modules->order total (it should say "E-commerce Engine copyright ..." with a link to zen-cart.com). If not, look in the cache folder for error logs.

Thanks swguy for your reply.

I had a look at the page and the page load properly even the footer and everything...

I checked all the files again and they are on their own place but still the module does not appear ;(

Any other idea??
Thank you again.

It's hard to know what you might have done wrong.

Take a look at my "Rookie's Guide" to mod installation.
http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zencart_install_mod.html

I want to offer a discount on category B if you buy form Categories A,C, or D I think this can be done, but can I exclude a few items from the discount in category B? or would I need to make another category for those items?
Thanks

There's no easy way in Better Together to exclude specific items in a category.

Thank you for your quick reply. I have master category 5 with sub categories 6 & 7. I want to offer a discount on master category 16 with subs, 24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31
if I use
$this->add_cat_to_cat(5, 16, "%", 10);
no discount is given, but marketing message shows buy from 5 receive 10% off 16.
when I add rules for all subcategory discount is given.
Is this how I need to setup? if so
Can marketing message be tweeked so that it does not list all subcategories?
Thank you

If you see "Buy 5 get 10% off" then this is the marketing text for Quantity Discounts, not Better Together.

Your other question suggests you may not be clear about what a master category is. Although categories have subcategories, products only have one master category, and only master category numbers may be used with Better Together. If you have category 5 with subcategories 6 and 7, you can only use 6 and 7 in Better Together; category 5 will not be the master category of any product (since it contains subcategories).

This is the documentation I have provided on category handling:
http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca...ry_issues.html

Thank you I reset my master categories and it looks like it works fine. Can I add to the discount text on the item page that discount taken at checkout?
if show how?
Thanks again

Hello,

we have better together and big chooser installed.

i want to do the following

I want to do buy £25 of products from ALL categories and get 50% off product X

can't quite work out the logic.

anyone assist?

Andy.

Response by PM.

Hello

Since I have installed Better together+admin+center box + preview the add-on : jqzoom has stopped working....

I can't find one file that could have been overwritten by yours, could it come from the CJ loader?

this module can be find here:

http://eazyecommerce.com/platforms/z...es/jquery-zoom

Thanks

P.

:unsure:

Haven't heard of this problem before. Please not e that my commercial mods are supported by email and not on the Zen Cart forum though.

Disregard my message, I am stupid or tired or both, I had forgotten to upload the CJ loader.... everything is working fine and your modules are really great

Sorry!

P.

:blush:

Here's hoping for some inspiration/help...

I have installed Better Together on my store and am running some tests, but it is not working correctly and I'm unclear what I've missed. I have followed all the install and setup instructions, and looked on the forum.

The actual Better Together marketing text is appearing correctly on products in a given category for which I have then said another specific product will be FREE. So I used the cat_to_prod function. Whilst this is working ok, it all goes a bit funny on the check out page... I have the Reward Points Full Suite Add-On/Contrib running on my store (have had for a long time and it works fine), but the problem now is that the Reward Points being given are those of both products in the cart - including the one that is FREE, as a result of the Better Together reductions.

Has this issue been raised before and is there a recommended solution for Better Together when used in conjunction with the Reward Points Full Suit add-on?

I'm running Zen 1.3.9f.

Rewards Points doesn't know about Better Together. What you're seeing is the expected behavior.

There is no easy way for Rewards Points to deduce which products should and which should not attract points.

Ok Scott, I thought as much, but thought it best to check.

I assume the same is true then for FREE Shipping....? I.e. If the product which is being offered is FREE, but takes the order total over the FREE ship threshold, then ideally we wouldn't want the FREE Shipping to kick in as essentially they don't qualify... But the Order Total module doesn't know this, as it see the total order including the item which Better Together has discounted out.

Thanks for the explanation.

It is a great contrib BTW.... We're just trying to work out how best to implement and roll it out on our store. We're desperate to get this in place as we're setting up some new promotions accross a whole category range.

Same explanation. None of these things know about the others.

Many thanks for the explanation, it is clear now.

Better Together is five years old today!

Thanks for this great Mod!

If I wanted products from a specific category to rotate randomly in the product info page when another category were visited. How would I achieve that?

I mean sort of like this:
In product info page --> category 1 --> products from category --> 2 rotating randomly (exactly like the new products center box that has got rotating products).

That's kind of off topic for Better Together. You want to look at how (for example) the featured products centerbox works, and model your code after that.

Thank you for pointing me the right direction!

I've installed this module a number of times without any problems, until today.

When I customize tpl_product_info_display.php, the product pages stop displaying all sideboxes. When I remove the BT code from the page, they all come back.

Zen is 1.3.8 and using BT 2.3b

You likely have an error in your customization. Look in the cache folder to see if there's a php error file.

I also installed the Better Together Admin and it turns out I skipped the 'includes' directory. Once all the files are in the right place, it works like a charm!

Hi there,
Have been using Better Together for a while to discount products, but have just decided to use the cross sell option as well, everything seems to be working fine apart from the fact that the "Items you might also be interested in" box lists the products in one column to the left:

http://thelakedistrictwalker.co.uk/c...oducts_id=1529

Not sure what I'm doing wrong!

Many thanks
John

Perhaps you have customized includes/templates/YOUR_TEMPLATE/common/tpl_columnar_display.php
Try removing your customization and see if it looks better.

Thanks for the quick reply,
I've tried re-uploading the original tpl_columnar_display.php to make sure and there's no change, but this has had no effect?

I had a similar display problem with attribute images displaying as a single column. I had to edit
/includes/modules/attributes.php to remove a <br class="clearBoth" /> that was causing the problem.

You may need to edit your includes/templates/YOUR_TEMPLATE/common/tpl_columnar_display.php

Are there any known issues creating a Better Together offer for buy a category, get a category when all products in the categories are linked to other categories. I would assume your module uses the master category ID, but the site is not displaying items when linked. Don't know if it's a module limitation or a cart/db problem.

It uses Master Category ID. Sometimes the master category id isn't what you think it is - I tell people if it's not working the way they think it should, double check the id in the database.

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Originally Posted by swguy

Sometimes the master category id isn't what you think it is

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Ain't that the truth. A little off-topic, but how does the 'reset master category id' in the Store Manager go about doing that? What does it reset it 'to'?

Here's the odd thing happening. Let's say Product A has a master category of 1 and is linked to category 2. When doing a Better Together using Category 1 items, Product A is not listed. If I delete the item from category 2, the master category is still listed as 1 when viewing the product in the admin but it only appears in category 2. If I then move the item from Category 2 to Category 1, Better Together does show the item.

I looked in the database and the master category id is listed as 1 even when the product was listed in category 2.

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Originally Posted by jeking

Ain't that the truth. A little off-topic, but how does the 'reset master category id' in the Store Manager go about doing that? What does it reset it 'to'?

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The first category it comes across in the products to categories table - so you have to be careful when using this.
(Also, you have to remember to run the products price sorter after doing this.)

My personal preference is to use SQL to fix things like this, but it's up to you.

I'm still not sure why the Better Together offer is not working though.

Sticking with the Product A example. The Master Category ID is 88. It's linked to Category ID 38. Using a Better Together of buy Category 88 get another from Category 88 at 50% off, the offer does not show. Only if I unlink the product from Category 38 does it show.

To clarify: you mean the marketing text on the product info page doesn't show up on an item with master category 88 when you use

$this->add_cat_to_cat(88, 88, some discount);

and you're using the latest Better Together (there was a marketing text bug fixed in v 2.3a).

That is correct, although we are using the BT Admin panel.

It is BT 2.3a

Found the solution thanks to Scott:

http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca...ry_issues.html
at the section "Marketing Text and Linked Items in Better Together and Friends"

Editing the file with the code mentioned did the trick.

Hello,

I need to make a special buy 2 get one free of the same product how do I do that with your mod?

Thanks for your Help,

Lex

You can't. Better Together is "Buy 1 item A, get 1 item B at a discount."

Is it possible to do a store wide buy one get one 50% off?

I have a Zencart 1.3.9h
The meaningfull addon I have is ultimate_seo_urls_2-110
I have succesfully installed the following free modules:

better_together_2-3b
better_together_centerbox_1-0a
better_together_promotional_page_2-2a

After that I have purchased the following modules:
buybothnow_2.3b
This module works fine
promo_better_2.3a_abtc
This module seems to be not compatible with ultimate seo url. With ultimate seo active, clicking on buy both now button in the promo page, a page not found appears. Disabling ultimate seo urls the action of the clicking is regular (the products are put in the basket).
In addition, in any configuration, none "buy both now" is displayed in the better_together_centerbox (but in the promotional page only).

Some suggestion ?

Thanks

@jeking - yes.

Code:

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    function setup() {
        global $db;
        $sql = "select products_id from " . TABLE_PRODUCTS;
        $prodlist = $db->Execute($sql);
        while (!$prodlist->EOF) {
            $prod = (int)$prodlist->fields['products_id'];
            $this->add_twoforone_prod($prod);
            $prodlist->MoveNext();
        }
    }

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@nannid - my commercial software is not supported on the Zen Cart forum.

Thanks very much for the code, but I see I was not clear in my question. They want to do a 'buy any one item, get a different item at 50% off'. Ideally it would be the lower priced item at 50% off.

Anyway to accomplish that?

That particular discount cannot be accomplished with Better Together. See PM.

I have better together set buy from category "A" get category "B"
15% off. When customer buys from "A" and then buys 2 or more items from "B" they only get the discount on 1 item and it is the least expensive item. Can this be changed to allow for all items from "B" or at least the most expensive?
Thank you

Not with Better Together. See PM.