Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

I havent paid for anything! i found this in the downloads section!

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

I just don't understand why you are paying for a version of IH2 when it's not CLEAR what is different about this version than the original add-on..

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i said, i would be willing to chip in for the future of this mod.

and wouldn't a rewrite of IH"2 to bring it up to PHP5.3 and to fix the things that dont work be a considerable task.. thus warranting a new version number?

and if i wanted a feature coding and required coughing up some cash for it, i wouldn't mind having this available for free in the downloads... what's a few quid to help others?

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Originally Posted by Shane78

I havent paid for anything! i found this in the downloads section!

i said, i would be willing to chip in for the future of this mod.

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Have you taken a close look at the the version of IH2 Judy Gunderson has submitted. Her version doesn't MAJORLY change ANYTHING in IH2 so why she submitted it as a NEW and separate module is beyond me..

After comparing her version last night to Rev 7 of IH2 it seems clear that she should have submitted it as an UPDATE with a MUCH BETTER explanation of what she "did" in her submission notes.. Also her "version" implies that it fixes a problem that was never a problem (that I was a aware of) even with the new version of Zen Cart.

My point was I would not pay ANYONE to make this particular version (the Judy Gunderson version) of IH2 PHP 5.3 compatible since with the exception of a VERY MINOR change I do not see ANYTHING ELSE different in her version. (and since I'm not a coder, I will be asking a friend or two to help me interpret the code that Judy did add to IH2 to determine WHAT it is supposed to do)

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Originally Posted by Shane78

and wouldn't a rewrite of IH"2 to bring it up to PHP5.3 and to fix the things that dont work be a considerable task.. thus warranting a new version number?

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Other than the hover on medium images (which has NEVER been coded into IH2 and which I imagine WOULD be a fairly complicated undertaking if compatibility with lightbox mods is to be maintained..) what features don't work???

I posted yesterday that I will be submitting a PHP 5.3 compatible version of the ORIGINAL IH2. The changes to make IH2 PHP 5.3 compatible are MINOR at best and do not warrant a major version number change.

I am of the opinion that updating the Judy Gunderson version with no real understanding of WHAT SHE CHANGED is not a good idea.. Which is why I PERSONALLY would not pay to fix THAT version..

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Originally Posted by Shane78

and if i wanted a feature coding and required coughing up some cash for it, i wouldn't mind having this available for free in the downloads... what's a few quid to help others?

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Nothing.. I have paid for feature coding before, but my point was that I personally wouldn't spend ANY money on a version of IH2 which is VAGUELY documented, and as far as I can tell brings NOTHING new to the table.

She (Judy Gunderson) in essence took the Rev 7 version of IH2, add a LITTLE bit of code to it, made some VAGUE reference to some "broken" functionality (that has NEVER been broken or even reported broken), changed NONE of the supporting documentation, and then submitted it as a NEW mod (instead of an update to the existing mod) Now if YOU want to pay to have THAT version updated to make it PHP 5.3 compatible, knock yourself out..:laugh: I will submit Rev 8 (as an UPDATE to Rev 7) to the downloads section, and it won't cost me or anyone a dime to use it..:smile:

wow, that's a lot of words to read...

i shall be brief..

a) not even downloaded to look at the differences.. i simply found it last night because i see mods are being updated to 139 without us knowing about it to add to the list.

b) Give the lass a break, good on her for trying. while you might think her efforts arent good or confusing, to be listed it has to get approval... have a rant at who ever approved it. (wait till you see what i do to Login Spuce Up)

c) i dont care if its IH2, IH2a, IH3, or a totally new mod.. so long as it' works and is 139a and 139B (yes, there's another one coming) compatible, PHP5.3 compatible, zen lightbox compatible, isnt buggy or a security risk and easy to install! (having a feature to make me a brew would be good too)

Right, cant be on the ZC forums all day, some of us have proper jobs to do, lol :P

Doesn't anyone want to talk about why I suck at watermarks?

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

Doesn't anyone want to talk about why I suck at watermarks?

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dunno.. are all your settings right?
have you got the images you want to use as a watermark in the right place in the right format?
are all the files uploaded...?... for some reason filezilla doesnt always notify you when a file failed to upload... dead annoying!!!!

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Originally Posted by Shane78

wow, that's a lot of words to read...

i shall be brief..

a) not even downloaded to look at the differences.. i simply found it last night because i see mods are being updated to 139 without us knowing about it to add to the list.

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And this is precisely why I posted what I did.. The Judy Gunderson version is going to cause CONFUSION.. IMO it should NOT even be included on your list of "mods that work with Zen Cart".

It has already been established that IH2 Rev 7 is Zen Cart 1.3.9a compatible, and I will be submitting an update which will ALSO make it PHP 5.3 compatible.

Before we go calling for folks to pool their resources on an update of this "new" IH2 version, we should at least know what it does that is so all fired different from the current version of IH2. (I cannot see what BIG change she made, and the feature she claimed she "fixed" was -to my knowledge- never broken)

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Originally Posted by Shane78

b) Give the lass a break, good on her for trying. while you might think her efforts arent good or confusing, to be listed it has to get approval... have a rant at who ever approved it. (wait till you see what i do to Login Spuce Up)

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I wasn't giving her a hard time, merely stating what I see to be the current state of affairs. It's not about me thinking her efforts aren't good enough. It's about her not fully qualifying or documenting her changes. It's about her creating a NEW version of IH2, and in doing so creating what appears to be a FORK in this application (whether that was by design or by accident) with no major code changes or documentation to back up the need for a NEW SEPERATE version.. I'll say it again, her "version" of Zen Cart is going to create issues in terms of support because of this. (surely you can see how this is true right??)

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Originally Posted by Shane78

c) i dont care if its IH2, IH2a, IH3, or a totally new mod.. so long as it' works and is 139a and 139B (yes, there's another one coming) compatible, PHP5.3 compatible, zen lightbox compatible, isnt buggy or a security risk and easy to install! (having a feature to make me a brew would be good too)

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Got it, but if you're going to ask for a new major version number, you should know that it USUALLY means a major code change. (hence the explanation)

It's already been established that IH2 works with the latest and greatest version of Zen Cart, and AGAIN I will be submitting a PHP 5.3 compatible version soon (having it tested now to ensure it really IS PHP 5.3 compatible)

IH2 is stable (ie - not buggy), and compatible with most lightbox mods...

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Originally Posted by Shane78

Right, cant be on the ZC forums all day, some of us have proper jobs to do, lol :P

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Right you are.. I have requirements documents to refine..:smile:

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

And this is precisely why I posted what I did.. The Judy Gunderson version is going to cause CONFUSION.. IMO it should NOT even be included on your list of "mods that work with Zen Cart".

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It's not actually been added to the list that i have created... dunno where you got the impression it was,,, Less speed and more haste maybe! You're getting confused with the mod test submitted by Clyde Jones. When I add a mod to the list I add the whole title copy and pasted from the listing. Note it says 'zc137' and has been there since the 2nd list I made.

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

Before we go calling for folks to pool their resources on an update of this "new" IH2 version, we should at least know what it does that is so all fired different from the current version of IH2. (I cannot see what BIG change she made, and the feature she claimed she "fixed" was -to my knowledge- never broken)
I wasn't giving her a hard time, merely stating what I see to be the current state of affairs. It's not about me thinking her efforts aren't good enough. It's about her not fully qualifying or documenting her changes. It's about her creating a NEW version of IH2, and in doing so creating what appears to be a FORK in this application (whether that was by design or by accident) with no major code changes or documentation to back up the need for a NEW SEPERATE version.. I'll say it again, her "version" of Zen Cart is going to create issues in terms of support because of this. (surely you can see how this is true right??)

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Then make an official complaint/query with the four ZC developers / moderators of ZC that authorised its entry.

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

It's already been established that IH2 works with the latest and greatest version of Zen Cart, and AGAIN I will be submitting a PHP 5.3 compatible version soon (having it tested now to ensure it really IS PHP 5.3 compatible)

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excellent, i cannot wait.. will it be zc139b compatible? lol..
im not joking btw... lol, seriously.. it's in the bugs threads!

Whether your intention is to give this lass a hard time or not.. it is coming across that way... agree or disagree with me, that is your prerogative, but that is the perception your posts have given regarding this subject, because they have such gusto about them.

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Originally Posted by Shane78

It's not actually been added to the list that i have created... dunno where you got the impression it was,,, Less speed and more haste maybe! You're getting confused with the mod test submitted by Clyde Jones. When I add a mod to the list I add the whole title copy and pasted from the listing. Note it says 'zc137' and has been there since the 2nd list I made.

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I'm not confused at all.. However your list of compatible apps appears to list IH2 TWICE. So it left me with the impression that you were referring to the Rev7 version of the original and the version submitted by Ms Gunderson. Until Ms Gunderson submitted her "new" version, there has only been two versions of IH2 available in the downloads (1 for ver 1.3.x and one for ver 1.2.7)

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Image Handler 2 for v1.2.7
Last Updated by: Tim Kroeger

Ver 2.0 Image Handler 2 for v1.3.x
Last Updated by: ckosloff Ver 2.0 Rev 7

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To be clear, you asked about pooling resources to pay for PHP 5.3 updates to Judy Gunderson's version of IH2 in the IH2 support thread as if it (Ms Gunderson's version of IH2) was something IN ADDITION TO or IMPROVED FROM the original version of IH2. Hence my initial response and all of my subsequent responses on this matter.. I would daresay that since this "version" is new most folks frequenting this support thread knew nothing about it until your post. I only wanted to make sure it was CRYSTAL clear that what has been submitted by Ms Gunderson is NOT anything new (or even improved based on what I can see was modified).

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Originally Posted by Shane78

Then make an official complaint/query with the four ZC developers / moderators of ZC that authorised its entry.

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I don't need to make an official complaint.. If Ms Gunderson wants to submit her "fork" of IH2 she is free to do so.. It's open source that's how it works.. However, I felt the responsible thing to do was to inform those who come to this thread looking for support to know that the version of IH2 submitted by Judy Gunderson does not appear to be a true fork of the original IH2 module and it is NOT PHP 5.3 compatible. (again whether the separate submission was by design or by accident this is still a fact)

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Originally Posted by Shane78

excellent, i cannot wait.. will it be zc139b compatible? lol..
im not joking btw... lol, seriously.. it's in the bugs threads!

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IH2 is already Zen Cart 1.3.9a compatible what I will be submitting will include PHP 5.3 compatibility as well..

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Originally Posted by Shane78

Whether your intention is to give this lass a hard time or not.. it is coming across that way... agree or disagree with me, that is your prerogative, but that is the perception your posts have given regarding this subject, because they have such gusto about them.

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and I do disagree.. :smile: I am absolutely NOT giving her a hard time.. If stating what has occurred is giving her a hard time then so be it.. But I stated what I can see clearly (with no emotions or "gusto" attached -- only the ones which others ASSUME are there :smile:). So let me restate it all so it's clear:

• The Judy Gunderson version of IH2 does not appear to be any kind of MAJOR re-write of IH2. (which IMO does not require it to be submitted as a NEW separate version)
• The Judy Gunderson version of IH2 adds some minor edits, and I will be confirming with a programmer to make sure I understand what the code she added does in fact "do"
• The Judy Gunderson version of IH2 is NOT PHP 5.3 compatible
• The Judy Gunderson version of IH2 purports to fix a "broken feature" that is not in fact broken to my knowledge

Now I am happy to be proven wrong, but since Ms Gunderson did not include adequate documentation with her submission, it's hard to come to any other conclusions. Call it picking, even call it picking with "gusto" but I prefer to call it having a discussion of things that are out there in the open to be seen and discussed..

you are confused, and you are not understanding me.. and you are wrong. This may be my fault for not expressing myself in a way that you understand... or maybe a problem with differences in our cultures...

after all we come from two great nations divided by a common language.

However.. this statement does sum it all up

“Now I am happy to be proven wrong”
I am not here to prove you or anyone wrong...
I simply give my view point...

But you clearly dont listen...
I ask “will it be zc139b compatible”

you reply “IH2 is already Zen Cart 1.3.9a compatible..”

that's not what I asked..

as I say,,, less speed and more haste..

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

Doesn't anyone want to talk about why I suck at watermarks?

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Shane is right... Won't be able to help until you post your image settings..

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Originally Posted by Shane78

dunno.. are all your settings right?
have you got the images you want to use as a watermark in the right place in the right format?
are all the files uploaded...?... for some reason filezilla doesnt always notify you when a file failed to upload... dead annoying!!!!

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:yes: I love Filezilla, but this anoys me to no end.. This is why I paid for Cute FTP and Filezilla is only installed on my backup laptop.

but i still like you

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Originally Posted by Shane78

you are confused, and you are not understanding me.. and you are wrong. This may be my fault for not expressing myself in a way that you understand... or maybe a problem with differences in our cultures...

after all we come from two great nations divided by a common language.

However.. this statement does sum it all up

“Now I am happy to be proven wrong”
I am not here to prove you or anyone wrong...
I simply give my view point...

But you clearly dont listen...
I ask “will it be zc139b compatible”

you reply “IH2 is already Zen Cart 1.3.9a compatible..”

that's not what I asked..

as I say,,, less speed and more haste..

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Again I'm NOT CONFUSED. I heard you, and I do not expect that 1.3.8B will be VASTLY different from 1.3.9A (hence why the version number the Zen Cart team used for this release does not increment the number and only increments the letter to distinguish the versions -- this indicates that this is probably a MINOR release)

So therefore if IH2 is compatible with 1.3.9A it's likely going to STILL be compatible with 1.3.9B as well.. Now if you needed me to EXPLICITLY state then, then there you have it.. If 1.3.9b is out before testing of the PHP 5.3 compatible version is complete we will confirm this.. Otherwise if there is a minor update required after I submit it (which I think is unlikely), I will cross that bridge when I get to it..

hahahahahhaa.. i do like you a lot!
you're feisty!

wrong... but feisty ;-)

OK, here are my Image settings:
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Small Image Width 80
Small Image Height
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin
Subcategory Image Width 80
Subcategory Image Height
Calculate Image Size TRUE
Image Required TRUE
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 50
Image - Shopping Cart Height
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 57
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages
Top Subcategory Image Width 80
Top Subcategory Image Height
Product Info - Image Width 160
Product Info - Image Height
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
Image - Product Listing Width 80
Image - Product Listing Height
Image - Product New Listing Width 80
Image - Product New Listing Height
Image - New Products Width 80
Image - New Products Height
Image - Featured Products Width 80
Image - Featured Products Height
Image - Product All Listing Width 80
Image - Product All Listing Height
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1
IH resize images yes
IH small image filetype no_change
IH small image background 255:255:255
IH watermark small images no
IH zoom small images yes
IH small image hotzone no
IH small image compression quality 85
IH medium image filetype no_change
IH medium image background 255:255:255
IH watermark medium images yes
IH zoom medium images no
IH medium image hotzone no
IH medium image compression quality 85
IH large image filetype no_change
IH large image background 255:255:255
IH watermark large images yes
IH large image compression quality 85
IH large image maximum width 750
IH large image maximum height 550
IH watermark gravity Center
IH zoom gravity SouthEast
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And, I have watermark files in images, images/medium and images/large. The only images that ever get watermarked are those displayed during rollover.

Thanks for any help.

Try changing the highlighted value to yes..

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

OK, here are my Image settings:
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Small Image Width 80
Small Image Height
Heading Image Width - Admin 57
Heading Image Height - Admin
Subcategory Image Width 80
Subcategory Image Height
Calculate Image Size TRUE
Image Required TRUE
Image - Shopping Cart Status 1
Image - Shopping Cart Width 50
Image - Shopping Cart Height
Category Icon Image Width - Product Info Pages 57
Category Icon Image Height - Product Info Pages
Top Subcategory Image Width 80
Top Subcategory Image Height
Product Info - Image Width 160
Product Info - Image Height
Product Info - Image Medium Suffix _MED
Product Info - Image Large Suffix _LRG
Product Info - Number of Additional Images per Row 3
Image - Product Listing Width 80
Image - Product Listing Height
Image - Product New Listing Width 80
Image - Product New Listing Height
Image - New Products Width 80
Image - New Products Height
Image - Featured Products Width 80
Image - Featured Products Height
Image - Product All Listing Width 80
Image - Product All Listing Height
Product Image - No Image Status 1
Product Image - No Image picture no_picture.gif
Image - Use Proportional Images on Products and Categories 1
IH resize images yes
IH small image filetype no_change
IH small image background 255:255:255
IH watermark small images no
IH zoom small images yes
IH small image hotzone no
IH small image compression quality 85
IH medium image filetype no_change
IH medium image background 255:255:255
IH watermark medium images yes
IH zoom medium images no
IH medium image hotzone no
IH medium image compression quality 85
IH large image filetype no_change
IH large image background 255:255:255
IH watermark large images yes
IH large image compression quality 85
IH large image maximum width 750
IH large image maximum height 550
IH watermark gravity Center
IH zoom gravity SouthEast
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And, I have watermark files in images, images/medium and images/large. The only images that ever get watermarked are those displayed during rollover.

Thanks for any help.

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Fascinating. Now my small images, and the rollovers, are watermarked. Still nothing on the mediums and larges, though.

Thinking about it a bit more, is it possible that this is due to the location of my image uploads? I'm keeping them under images in a directory called uploads/etc. broken down by product category. EP found them no problem, but is this possibly the cause of IH2 not watermarking medium and large images? Namely, that there are no images (other than the watermarks) in the medium and large directories?

ok, i think i misspoke when i said i had watermark on images that are med size...no i don't

i meant that when you hover over the small image to see the medium size---i can get the watermark to show...but prefer not to so only the large when clicked to view is actually the one with the watermark.

i have my images done like this:

1. click the new image button
2. browse the computer for the image i need then right above it I enter promos/vendor name/product name/

that way they are all sent to that folder for that product (we have several for the products)

then finalize the uploading of the images. I only need to enter the path to the folder I need them to go to with the first image of each product.

maybe if you did not enter the path to the folder may be why the watermark is not following the image???

just a thought

My method for populating the shop with images is simply to use EP (I currently only have one image per product). My understanding from the various readmes was that this method would work without further intervention.

If I understand you correctly, you're saying that I'd have to manually enter an image for each product? If this is what I have to do, I'll do it, but I'd rather not until I know that my method isn't going to work. Can anyone confirm/deny this?

Thanks.

not knowing what EP is, unless you mean easy populate which i do not have installed.

the way I uploaded the images was my understanding of how to use IH2 and it has worked for me so not sure what to tell you...maybe try it on one or two images then see if your watermark shows

if it does then what you do is up to you, tis all I know of what to do.

I tried that with an existing product. I deleted the image and uploaded a fresh copy. Still no watermark.

Anyone else with some other ideas? I keep thinking it has something to do with the watermark files themselves, but...I don't know what else to try. They're png files and I made them the same size as the watermarks delivered with core ZC.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

I tried that with an existing product. I deleted the image and uploaded a fresh copy. Still no watermark.

Anyone else with some other ideas? I keep thinking it has something to do with the watermark files themselves, but...I don't know what else to try. They're png files and I made them the same size as the watermarks delivered with core ZC.

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Have you tried putting the core watermarks back and seeing if they work?, could be an issue with your watermark png? but as its working on the rollover seems unlikely

Are they are named correctly?

The only things i can suggest are triple checking the product page code, did you upload the included image handler product page or did you merge the code together with the existing page, and you haven't updated or installed any new mods since installing image handler?

note the page isn't called product page, the name of it escapes me right now, i'm sure someone much brighter will chime in with the name of it, I think its in your template or custom template folder.

Anyway the reason i'm here

Opera browser, do the rollover effects etc work with opera yet?, as i am about to do a site upgrade from 1.3.7 (and whatever version of IH2 was around then), and i just want to know if it works as i still haven't found a site it works on with Opera

I just restored the standard watermark files...same results.

I don't know which file you're referring to. Can anyone enlighten me here?

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

I just restored the standard watermark files...same results.

I don't know which file you're referring to. Can anyone enlighten me here?

Thanks.

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if by chance it is a misloaded file you could just open the zip then go to your server and actually check each folder in the zip with the ones on the server....making entirely sure the file uploaded is in the correct place.

I had a client accidently upload one of the image_handler.php into the wrong place and after it got put in the proper spot it started behaving.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

I just restored the standard watermark files...same results.

I don't know which file you're referring to. Can anyone enlighten me here?

Thanks.

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It depends on how you installed image jandler, I can't speak for the latest version, but on the original IH2 you had the option of either overwriting a couple of files (main_product_image.php i think & a pop up one i think), or manually merging them ie adding the code to the original zencart files your self

Just as a query, do you have server access?
have you tried checking the error log, i know in my version of Cpanel it lets me see the last 300 errors, never know it may show you something useful

Herein lies the answer.. It appears that you have overwritten the product page files instead of merging the changes. I suspect that you installed your lightbox app AFTER installing Image Handler and it is fairly clear that you did not merge the changes in the common files which is why your watermarking does not work on your product pages.

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Originally Posted by nigelt74

It depends on how you installed image jandler, I can't speak for the latest version, but on the original IH2 you had the option of either overwriting a couple of files (main_product_image.php i think & a pop up one i think), or manually merging them ie adding the code to the original zencart files your self

Just as a query, do you have server access?
have you tried checking the error log, i know in my version of Cpanel it lets me see the last 300 errors, never know it may show you something useful

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Originally Posted by nigelt74

Have you tried putting the core watermarks back and seeing if they work?, could be an issue with your watermark png? but as its working on the rollover seems unlikely

Are they are named correctly?

The only things i can suggest are triple checking the product page code, did you upload the included image handler product page or did you merge the code together with the existing page, and you haven't updated or installed any new mods since installing image handler?

note the page isn't called product page, the name of it escapes me right now, i'm sure someone much brighter will chime in with the name of it, I think its in your template or custom template folder.

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Hi, Diva –

So, assuming that would be the case, what would the corrective procedure be? Remove both add-ons, install lightbox and then install IH2?

I compared the IH2 files against v139 and there are some differences. It's not always clear which changes to pick up and which to leave.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

Hi, Diva –

So, assuming that would be the case, what would the corrective procedure be? Remove both add-ons, install lightbox and then install IH2?

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It's not the order in which you install these add-ons that matters.. They both make changes to some of the same files. You need to merge these changes.

The correct procedure for this and ANY add-on is to make sure that you merge (versus overwrite) any common files.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

I compared the IH2 files against v139 and there are some differences. It's not always clear which changes to pick up and which to leave.

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I'm afraid this is not something I can easily explain. You may have to start by seeing and noting the differences between v1.3.8a and 1.3.9a first. Once you have this then it may be easier to see where which changes between v1.3.9a and the core files included in IH2 should be merged.

Mz,
There is a new version of Image Handler for 139a in the Free Software Addons
I use Use Fual Slimbox (a mirror image to Zen Lightbox), available in the Free Software Addon section too.

Be careful to winmerge these files into the core of 139a.

I did a test last night on a fresh install of 139a, worked seamlessly.
What I noticed is that Image Handler and Fual do not overload on each other which is easier to winmerge...

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Originally Posted by haredo

Mz,
There is a new version of Image Handler for 139a in the Free Software Addons
I use Use Fual Slimbox (a mirror image to Zen Lightbox), available in the Free Software Addon section too.

Be careful to winmerge these files into the core of 139a.

I did a test last night on a fresh install of 139a, worked seamlessly.
What I noticed is that Image Handler and Fual do not overload on each other which is easier to winmerge...

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and if you saw our earlier discussions on this "new" version you will note that this version is NOT PHP 5.3 compatible.. As I have posted earlier, I will be posting an UPDATE to the Rev 7 files which will be 1.3.9a AND PHP 5.3 compatible.. I will also be updating the readme file as well so that the changelog is CLEAR. The new version will be backwards compatible for those whose hosts are not running PHP 5.3 just yet. I need more PHP 5.3 testers. If anyone is interested in testing it, please PM me your e-mail address and I will be happy to send you a zipped copy to test.

Also for those who are not converting to 1.3.9a right away, but whos host may convert them to PHP 5.3, I will include a PHP 5.3 compatible version for 1.3.8a.

May I ask what all the discussion about PHP 5.3 is about? Is this a new version that all the hosting services are about to move to?

Regarding reinstallation: I guess if I file compare the add-on to the core 139, I'll see a list of the files that get modified. The other files in the add-on should be bolt-in. For the files with overlap, it looks like some quality time with a three-way merge tool is in order. Ah well...it still beats working for a living.

@DivaVocals
Sorry I missed that thread.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

May I ask what all the discussion about PHP 5.3 is about? Is this a new version that all the hosting services are about to move to?

Regarding reinstallation: I guess if I file compare the add-on to the core 139, I'll see a list of the files that get modified. The other files in the add-on should be bolt-in. For the files with overlap, it looks like some quality time with a three-way merge tool is in order. Ah well...it still beats working for a living.

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I suggest a forum or Google search as a full blown PHP 5.3 discussion is very much off topic here.. Hosting services are moving to PHP 5.3, and many apps using functions deprecated in PHP 5.3 will no longer work. IH2 has some of this in it's code and so it's an issue that needs to be addressed.

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Originally Posted by haredo

@DivaVocals
Sorry I missed that thread.

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No worries.. I figured you might be interested in a PHP 5.3 compatible version.. :smile: One of the folks who will be testing the new version is reporting that he is having no PHP 5.3 compatibility issues with Rev 7 of IH2.. But I think that is just luck.. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

No worries.. I figured you might be interested in a PHP 5.3 compatible version.. :smile: One of the folks who will be testing the new version is reporting that he is having no PHP 5.3 compatibility issues with Rev 7 of IH2.. But I think that is just luck.. :laugh:

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I'm also having no problems using Rev 7 of IH2 on my local test server using php5.3

@cyldejones
are you having issues with this version also:

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http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?ma...oducts_id=1629

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I did a directory comparison between 1.3.9 and IH2 with 1.3.8 as the ancestor. It looks like the following files within IH2 have changed either in IH2 or in 1.3.9:

includes/modules/additional_images.php
includes/modules/main_product_image.php
includes/modules/pages/popup_image/header_php.php
includes/modules/pages/popup_image_additional/header_php.php
includes/templates/template_default/popup_image_additional/tpl_main_page.php

Of these, the only file that has changes in BOTH IH2 and 1.3.9 is:

includes/modules/pages/popup_image/header_php.php

So, would I be correct in assuming that if I reapply all the 1.3.9 files to my shop, then merge the header_php.php file, then install IH2, I should be OK? I realize that I'll then have to do a similar exercise with Lightbox.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by haredo

@cyldejones
are you having issues with this version also:

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I haven't even downloaded this since I've never had any problems with IH2 vis a vie additional images.

Here is a clear explanation of what I did - if this helps.

1. The latest version of IH2 revised by ckosloff BROKE the additional images function on the product info page. So... if someone added additional images to their products - and they also had that version of IH2 installed - the additional images DID NOT SHOW UP. EVERY site we have tried to install that updated IH2 on did the same thing and we have always had to uninstall and go back to the prior version to get this functionality.

2. So... as I stated in the description - I took the older version originally created by Tim Kroger - one version before the latest version - and changed one or two of the files that needed to be changed to work with 1.3.9

I have tons of clients that NEED those extra images to show up - and I am sure there are many out there that want to use additional images on their product pages - so that is why I renamed it a little to include that it supported the additional images.

I am NOT a coder and I definately am not trying to take "credit" for this mod - I am just trying to help people who need those additional images on their product page.

If this update is a problem with everyone - then I am happy to ask the developers of zen cart to remove it. But until such time that ckosloff (who updated the prior version) or someone else can get the additional images to work in his code and also upgrade it for 1.3.9 - I think it is a necessary addon - at least for the moment....

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

Have you taken a close look at the the version of IH2 Judy Gunderson has submitted. Her version doesn't MAJORLY change ANYTHING in IH2 so why she submitted it as a NEW and separate module is beyond me..

After comparing her version last night to Rev 7 of IH2 it seems clear that she should have submitted it as an UPDATE with a MUCH BETTER explanation of what she "did" in her submission notes.. Also her "version" implies that it fixes a problem that was never a problem (that I was a aware of) even with the new version of Zen Cart.

My point was I would not pay ANYONE to make this particular version (the Judy Gunderson version) of IH2 PHP 5.3 compatible since with the exception of a VERY MINOR change I do not see ANYTHING ELSE different in her version. (and since I'm not a coder, I will be asking a friend or two to help me interpret the code that Judy did add to IH2 to determine WHAT it is supposed to do)


Other than the hover on medium images (which has NEVER been coded into IH2 and which I imagine WOULD be a fairly complicated undertaking if compatibility with lightbox mods is to be maintained..) what features don't work???

I posted yesterday that I will be submitting a PHP 5.3 compatible version of the ORIGINAL IH2. The changes to make IH2 PHP 5.3 compatible are MINOR at best and do not warrant a major version number change.

I am of the opinion that updating the Judy Gunderson version with no real understanding of WHAT SHE CHANGED is not a good idea.. Which is why I PERSONALLY would not pay to fix THAT version..


Nothing.. I have paid for feature coding before, but my point was that I personally wouldn't spend ANY money on a version of IH2 which is VAGUELY documented, and as far as I can tell brings NOTHING new to the table.

She (Judy Gunderson) in essence took the Rev 7 version of IH2, add a LITTLE bit of code to it, made some VAGUE reference to some "broken" functionality (that has NEVER been broken or even reported broken), changed NONE of the supporting documentation, and then submitted it as a NEW mod (instead of an update to the existing mod) Now if YOU want to pay to have THAT version updated to make it PHP 5.3 compatible, knock yourself out..:laugh: I will submit Rev 8 (as an UPDATE to Rev 7) to the downloads section, and it won't cost me or anyone a dime to use it..:smile:

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Are you saying that the most up to date version of IH2 Ver 2.0 rev 7 is working with additional images? I believe you may have the version PRIOR to that - which works for additional images.

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Originally Posted by clydejones

I haven't even downloaded this since I've never had any problems with IH2 vis a vie additional images.

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Originally Posted by stellarweb

Are you saying that the most up to date version of IH2 Ver 2.0 rev 7 is working with additional images? I believe you may have the version PRIOR to that - which works for additional images.

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I'm using version of IH2 Ver 2.0 rev 7 and yes it is working with additional images.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

I did a directory comparison between 1.3.9 and IH2 with 1.3.8 as the ancestor. It looks like the following files within IH2 have changed either in IH2 or in 1.3.9:

includes/modules/additional_images.php
includes/modules/main_product_image.php
includes/modules/pages/popup_image/header_php.php
includes/modules/pages/popup_image_additional/header_php.php
includes/templates/template_default/popup_image_additional/tpl_main_page.php

Of these, the only file that has changes in BOTH IH2 and 1.3.9 is:

includes/modules/pages/popup_image/header_php.php

So, would I be correct in assuming that if I reapply all the 1.3.9 files to my shop, then merge the header_php.php file, then install IH2, I should be OK? I realize that I'll then have to do a similar exercise with Lightbox.

Thanks.

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I saw where your lightbox works but still no watermark...
did you ever activate for the med image when seen by hovering small image to have the watermark.

I notice that your small image and the hover of it are the same size...maybe that is why the watermark does not want to cooperate with the large image...have you tried increasing the size of your medium image?

did you place these into an override folder in includes/modules/your template folder/additional_images.php and main_product_image.php

along with the ones from the templates section too that and editing the files (header ones in pages) helped too so if you have not edited the new ffiles with the ih2 info then that may be why it does not wish to behave totally.

that is how i have mine set up and it behaves that and editing the files in pages (header ones) helped

This is me... eating CROW BIG TIME!!

I just installed the latest version of IH2 and the additional image upload function is now working.

My apologies - When it first came out, we tested it many times and the additional images would not upload. This has obviously been fixed and I was unaware of it.

Dr. BYTE - can you delete the version I put up there??

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Originally Posted by clydejones

I'm using version of IH2 Ver 2.0 rev 7 and yes it is working with additional images.

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Here was my "beef" as it were in a nutshell.. Your version of IH2 was submitted to the downloads section as if it was a NEW RE-WRITE of Image Handler (which would be the ONLY reason to submit an add-on as a NEW add-on versus an UPDATE ro an existing add-on). Based on what I saw in my review there was NOTHING new, it looked like an UPDATE. (albeit an update based on incorrect data)

I get that you were trying to share and help the community, but you did this with little to NO explanation as to the changes you made when your mod was submitted (ALL of the documentation ckosloff and I wrote were included in your submission with no updates to the changelog at all). Your description of your add-on was identical to the original IH2 add-on with the only change being the VAGUEST of references to a "broken" feature.

You also NEVER stopped by this support thread to inform the community who uses Rev 7 of IH2 of your plans to update it. If you had, the members of the community who use Rev 7 surely would have told you (which is what occurred today) that the "broken feature" you were "fixing" was NEVER broken at all..

Now there are some who took exception to my pointing any of this out and thought I was giving you a hard time.. Not my intent. My concern was the confusion your version could cause. Because of how it was submitted, because the documentation was vague, and because it could cause confusion to the community. Not everyone will take the time to do an analysis to see what a NEW version REALLY brings to the table. Some community member will assume that if it's a NEW version, it must REALLY be new...

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Originally Posted by stellarweb

Here is a clear explanation of what I did - if this helps.

1. The latest version of IH2 revised by ckosloff BROKE the additional images function on the product info page. So... if someone added additional images to their products - and they also had that version of IH2 installed - the additional images DID NOT SHOW UP. EVERY site we have tried to install that updated IH2 on did the same thing and we have always had to uninstall and go back to the prior version to get this functionality.

2. So... as I stated in the description - I took the older version originally created by Tim Kroger - one version before the latest version - and changed one or two of the files that needed to be changed to work with 1.3.9

I have tons of clients that NEED those extra images to show up - and I am sure there are many out there that want to use additional images on their product pages - so that is why I renamed it a little to include that it supported the additional images.

I am NOT a coder and I definately am not trying to take "credit" for this mod - I am just trying to help people who need those additional images on their product page.

If this update is a problem with everyone - then I am happy to ask the developers of zen cart to remove it. But until such time that ckosloff (who updated the prior version) or someone else can get the additional images to work in his code and also upgrade it for 1.3.9 - I think it is a necessary addon - at least for the moment....

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No worries.. However, I'm not sure what files you've been working off of.. Since the Rev 7 release neither ckosloff nor I have made any additional changes to the Rev 7 files.. What's available now is the same files that ckosloff compiled and submitted as Rev 7.

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Originally Posted by stellarweb

This is me... eating CROW BIG TIME!!

I just installed the latest version of IH2 and the additional image upload function is now working.

My apologies - When it first came out, we tested it many times and the additional images would not upload. This has obviously been fixed and I was unaware of it.

Dr. BYTE - can you delete the version I put up there??

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Originally Posted by clydejones

I'm also having no problems using Rev 7 of IH2 on my local test server using php5.3

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Awesome!!! The changes required for PHP 5.3 compatibility are minor.. I don't profess to understand them all.. I simply know which lines need to be changed, and what to change them to..:laugh::laugh:

You should but remember after you install IH2, you need to compare the lightbox files with the files in your shop.. That's why EVERY SINGLE mod tells you to BACKUP your store first.. There's two reasons for this
1. you can rollback your store if a module install goes horribly wrong.
2. You can use these files to do your win merges so you are merging your changes into your existing store files. (which may have ALREADY been modified)

I normally make a two backups.. 1 to allow me an easy rollback path, and the other I call my "working files" which is where I do my merges. I upload the changed files from my working copy to my development site. If all goes well great.. If it goes to hell in a handbasket, I rollback..

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

I did a directory comparison between 1.3.9 and IH2 with 1.3.8 as the ancestor. It looks like the following files within IH2 have changed either in IH2 or in 1.3.9:

includes/modules/additional_images.php
includes/modules/main_product_image.php
includes/modules/pages/popup_image/header_php.php
includes/modules/pages/popup_image_additional/header_php.php
includes/templates/template_default/popup_image_additional/tpl_main_page.php

Of these, the only file that has changes in BOTH IH2 and 1.3.9 is:

includes/modules/pages/popup_image/header_php.php

So, would I be correct in assuming that if I reapply all the 1.3.9 files to my shop, then merge the header_php.php file, then install IH2, I should be OK? I realize that I'll then have to do a similar exercise with Lightbox.

Thanks.

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His issue is not caused by any of his IH2 settings.. His settings are fine, and his medium hover is working fine.

His lightbox and IH2 touch the same product page files. Since he did not merge these changes, his lightbox wiped out the IH2 code on his product page.

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel

I saw where your lightbox works but still no watermark...
did you ever activate for the med image when seen by hovering small image to have the watermark.

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Again - apologies for my error in updating the mod previous to the current one that in my experiences did NOT allow for upload of additional images. Crow has been eaten - and lesson learned from your posts - thanks.

To be honest, <wearing my heart on my sleeve> I have "worried" and even taken offense by your posts and because of that I will most certainly not submit updates any other mods to work with 1.3.9 other than the ones I have already submitted HOPING to help the community. I will leave it to others like you to do this and keep my 1.3.9 updated files on my computer and not share them with anyone other than my immediate clients in the future. :(

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

Here was my "beef" as it were in a nutshell.. Your version of IH2 was submitted to the downloads section as if it was a NEW RE-WRITE of Image Handler (which would be the ONLY reason to submit an add-on as a NEW add-on versus an UPDATE ro an existing add-on). Based on what I saw in my review there was NOTHING new, it looked like an UPDATE. (albeit an update based on incorrect data)

I get that you were trying to share and help the community, but you did this with little to NO explanation as to the changes you made when your mod was submitted (ALL of the documentation ckosloff and I wrote were included in your submission with no updates to the changelog at all). Your description of your add-on was identical to the original IH2 add-on with the only change being the VAGUEST of references to a "broken" feature.

You also NEVER stopped by this support thread to inform the community who uses Rev 7 of IH2 of your plans to update it. If you had, the members of the community who use Rev 7 surely would have told you (which is what occurred today) that the "broken feature" you were "fixing" was NEVER broken at all..

Now there are some who took exception to my pointing any of this out and thought I was giving you a hard time.. Not my intent. My concern was the confusion your version could cause. Because of how it was submitted, because the documentation was vague, and because it could cause confusion to the community. Not everyone will take the time to do an analysis to see what a NEW version REALLY brings to the table. Some community member will assume that if it's a NEW version, it must REALLY be new...




No worries.. However, I'm not sure what files you've been working off of.. Since the Rev 7 release neither ckosloff nor I have made any additional changes to the Rev 7 files.. What's available now is the same files that ckosloff compiled and submitted as Rev 7.

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Originally Posted by clydejones

I'm also having no problems using Rev 7 of IH2 on my local test server using php5.3

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Are you sure, as from memory imagehandler uses the ereg_replace function which is depreceated in php 5.3 so you should be getting an error

http://php.net/manual/en/function.ereg-replace.php

Actually come to think of it, have you perchance turned off error/warning reporting, as the functions are still in PHP (I Believe/think), but if the warnings are turned off they should work fine
however when the functions are removed Possibly next version of php it will fail,

as itys a local test server, would you mind trying step 2B here

https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=82

I might try it later but i have 2 preschoolers assisting me and until the ZenCart developers pull finger and ###### Bob the Builder to zencart i can't try it yet

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

His (my) lightbox and IH2 touch the same product page files. Since he did not merge these changes, his lightbox wiped out the IH2 code on his product page.

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What product page files are you referring to? I just double-checked a directory compare of the two add-ons, and could find no overlapping files. (I was incorrect in what I said about main_product_image.php above.)

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Originally Posted by nigelt74

Actually come to think of it, have you perchance turned off error/warning reporting, as the functions are still in PHP (I Believe/think), but if the warnings are turned off they should work fine
however when the functions are removed Possibly next version of php it will fail,

as itys a local test server, would you mind trying step 2B here

https://www.zen-cart.com/tutorials/index.php?article=82

I might try it later but i have 2 preschoolers assisting me and until the ZenCart developers pull finger and ###### Bob the Builder to zencart i can't try it yet

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if you got this after the 1.3.9 upgrade then go to your cche folder and set its permissions to 777 or 755 on some servers

then go to the page again to see the blank page.

go back to the cache folder and open the file in there to see the error message, it may tell you what or where to start looking.

post it here for help.

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Originally Posted by stellarweb

To be honest, <wearing my heart on my sleeve> I have "worried" and even taken offense by your posts and because of that I will most certainly not submit updates any other mods to work with 1.3.9 other than the ones I have already submitted HOPING to help the community. I will leave it to others like you to do this and keep my 1.3.9 updated files on my computer and not share them with anyone other than my immediate clients in the future. :(

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Sorry you were offended.. Not my intent at all.. I was simply expressing an opinion about how I thought things were handled. There was no anger or malice behind anything I wrote.. (though some might assume otherwise) Again, my concerns centered around the fact that the two mods being out there REALLY would have been a cause for confusion. Surely you can see that right?? (hence why this flurry of posts over the last few days..)

It's too bad you will walk away from this not wanting to share with the community as a result.. I personally think that is an extreme response to this whole situation, but certainly your prerogative to do so if you feel strongly about it..:huh:

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

What product page files are you referring to? I just double-checked a directory compare of the two add-ons, and could find no overlapping files. (I was incorrect in what I said about main_product_image.php above.)

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I am not at my home computer, but here it is in a nutshell.. Somewhere between installing the lightbox and Zen Cart, something is not working on your product page.. It doesn't appear to be a setting, so that leads me to believe it's in the install of the lightbox add-on.. It's possible that it could be another add-on that is causing the problem.. Whatever it is, there is clearly code missing on the product pages that IH2 needs to display the watermarks properly on that page.

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

I am not at my home computer, but here it is in a nutshell.. Somewhere between installing the lightbox and Zen Cart, something is not working on your product page.. It doesn't appear to be a setting, so that leads me to believe it's in the install of the lightbox add-on.. It's possible that it could be another add-on that is causing the problem.. Whatever it is, there is clearly code missing on the product pages that IH2 needs to display the watermarks properly on that page.

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OK, I can believe that, but again, what exactly do you mean by "the product pages?"

If I have to, I'll delete all the remote copy of both add-ons and re-install, but I'd like some evidence that this will do anything. And, my directory compares reveal no such evidence.

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel

if you got this after the 1.3.9 upgrade then go to your cche folder and set its permissions to 777 or 755 on some servers

then go to the page again to see the blank page.

go back to the cache folder and open the file in there to see the error message, it may tell you what or where to start looking.

post it here for help.

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Opps sorry for wasting your time but I am not getting an error,

What i was referring to was Clyde Jones saying that image handler was working on php 5.3 which it should if error reporting is turned off, however image handler contains depreciated functions specifically ereg_replace and possibly others, i haven't had a chance to look, which means that if error reporting is turned on, your site will be showing warnings at the top of the page, saying something like

Deprecated: Function ereg_replace() is deprecated in blabla

Turning on error reporting would help to find what those errors are, should make it easy to fix image handler to be compatible with php 5.3, unfortunately i don't have access to a php 5.3 server, although I am as we speak downloading one

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Originally Posted by nigelt74

Opps sorry for wasting your time but I am not getting an error,

What i was referring to was Clyde Jones saying that image handler was working on php 5.3 which it should if error reporting is turned off, however image handler contains depreciated functions specifically ereg_replace and possibly others, i haven't had a chance to look, which means that if error reporting is turned on, your site will be showing warnings at the top of the page, saying something like

Deprecated: Function ereg_replace() is deprecated in blabla

Turning on error reporting would help to find what those errors are, should make it easy to fix image handler to be compatible with php 5.3, unfortunately i don't have access to a php 5.3 server, although I am as we speak downloading one

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Some of those ereg_replace() functions have been corrected in some of the files that need to be compared/merged with IH2.

So after doing the comparing/merging I'm not getting the deprecated error(s)

Would you like to look at the version I am working on to check for any functions I may have missed??

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Originally Posted by nigelt74

Opps sorry for wasting your time but I am not getting an error,

What i was referring to was Clyde Jones saying that image handler was working on php 5.3 which it should if error reporting is turned off, however image handler contains depreciated functions specifically ereg_replace and possibly others, i haven't had a chance to look, which means that if error reporting is turned on, your site will be showing warnings at the top of the page, saying something like

Deprecated: Function ereg_replace() is deprecated in blabla

Turning on error reporting would help to find what those errors are, should make it easy to fix image handler to be compatible with php 5.3, unfortunately i don't have access to a php 5.3 server, although I am as we speak downloading one

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

OK, I can believe that, but again, what exactly do you mean by "the product pages?"

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The page where the watermarks are NOT working. The product detail page (the page with the product pictures, description, attributes, pricing etc).

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

If I have to, I'll delete all the remote copy of both add-ons and re-install, but I'd like some evidence that this will do anything. And, my directory compares reveal no such evidence.

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You are looking at the evidence.. The image which shows on the product detail page is the medium size image, and there is NO watermark. The large image (which shows when you click the image on the product page) has NO watermark

On the other hand, the product listing page (which contains a LIST of products) has watermarks on the small images, and when you hover over them the MEDIUM images display WITH watermarks..

So clearly the issue is in something being installed wrong.. I suspect that something which affects the product image display on the product detail page is MISSING code which IH2 needs to display the watermarks.. Now I can't tell you WHAT is missing, but I can tell you based on what I see what the issue likely is. It's not a IH2 setting.. Your settings are fine.. The INSTALL is the issue.. and I don't know if it's IH2, the lightbox module or another module you've installed.. but something is not installed properly and is causing the watermarks to not work..

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Originally Posted by clydejones

Some of those ereg_replace() functions have been corrected in some of the files that need to be compared/merged with IH2.

So after doing the comparing/merging I'm not getting the deprecated error(s)

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And a few aren't which is the change I was going to submit.. It's not a BIG change at all..

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

So clearly the issue is in something being installed wrong.. I suspect that something which affects the product image display on the product detail page is MISSING code which IH2 needs to display the watermarks.. Now I can't tell you WHAT is missing, but I can tell you based on what I see what the issue likely is. It's not a IH2 setting.. Your settings are fine.. The INSTALL is the issue.. and I don't know if it's IH2, the lightbox module or another module you've installed.. but something is not installed properly and is causing the watermarks to not work..

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OK, I just wiped out every file pertaining to IH2 and re-installed from a fresh copy. (I believe that in so doing, I've removed Lightbox from the equation, as I'm not getting watermarks in places that have nothing to do with Lightbox.)

Behavior is the same.

For the life of me, I don't know what to do now. There are a couple of files that differ between the IH2 versions and the v139 versions, but trying to determine which change to pick up is an absolute guessing game for me.

I think I'm just going to have to give up on this, and do without watermarks, as I'm absolutely out of ideas.

Thank you to everyone who tried to get this working with me.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

OK, I just wiped out every file pertaining to IH2 and re-installed from a fresh copy. (I believe that in so doing, I've removed Lightbox from the equation, as I'm not getting watermarks in places that have nothing to do with Lightbox.)

Behavior is the same.

For the life of me, I don't know what to do now. There are a couple of files that differ between the IH2 versions and the v139 versions, but trying to determine which change to pick up is an absolute guessing game for me.

I think I'm just going to have to give up on this, and do without watermarks, as I'm absolutely out of ideas.

Thank you to everyone who tried to get this working with me.

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Someone else is going to probably correct me here, but bear with me
on this page
http://www.cinderellaantiques.com/in...products_id=14

The link for the bigger image - this is the code that is appearing on your page

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<a title="Napier Sterling Brooch" rel="lightbox-g" href="images//products/jewelry/brooches/100002.jpg">
<img width="240" height="180" title=" Napier Sterling Brooch " alt="Napier Sterling Brooch" src="bmz_cache/6/6209beca6b535c306215c0a434bee30f.image.240x180.jpg">
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<span class="imgLink">larger image</span>
</a>

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if you look at your href it is images//products/jewelry/brooches/100002.jpg
1) note the double slash
2) also that image will never be watermarked as it isn't coming from imagehandlers bmz_cache

I know nothing about lightbox, but i assume there is a way to make it recognise imagehandler

Lightbox apparently does give you the option to watermark your large images provided you have the watermark PNG in your images folder

Just for comparison Micheal

This code is taken from

http://fantasiesrealm.com/market/ind...roducts_id=518
Which is DarkAngels site

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<a title="Fantasy Realms 2010 Calendar" rel="lightbox-g" href="bmz_cache/6/61c2f367159ac30e1bfb5ea647b78a31.image.408x320.jpeg">
<img width="225" height="176" title=" Fantasy Realms 2010 Calendar " alt="Fantasy Realms 2010 Calendar" src="bmz_cache/4/422553687778162b77707aec2943d187.image.225x176.jpeg">
<br>
<span class="imgLink">larger image</span></a>

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as you can see the HREF in her link is pointing at the bmzcache, also if you note when you click on the link the image is watermarked.

It might be an idea to post your page here, as it seems you should be able to get the large waterarked image through image handler, unless DarkAngel has used some strange voodoo to do it

Thanks for the reply, Nigel.

The double slash is interesting, and worth tracking down, but I don't think it's coming into play here. The UNIX file system should be able to look past that.

So, the obvious question is, what do I need to do to get my shop to point to the bmzcache? All I did to put the images into my shop was to upload a directory structure and have the Easy Populate file point to those products when I created them. Did I omit a key step? (I did experiment with uploading one image via IH2, and that didn't get watermarked, either.)

Or, to ask a different way: is it necessary to manually upload each image via IH2 to get the watermark? This would seem odd, since IH2 does indeed see the images. Plus, I am able to get watermarks on my small images.

What exactly do you mean by "post your page here?" Explain and I'll do it.

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

Thanks for the reply, Nigel.

The double slash is interesting, and worth tracking down, but I don't think it's coming into play here. The UNIX file system should be able to look past that.

So, the obvious question is, what do I need to do to get my shop to point to the bmzcache? All I did to put the images into my shop was to upload a directory structure and have the Easy Populate file point to those products when I created them. Did I omit a key step? (I did experiment with uploading one image via IH2, and that didn't get watermarked, either.)

Or, to ask a different way: is it necessary to manually upload each image via IH2 to get the watermark? This would seem odd, since IH2 does indeed see the images. Plus, I am able to get watermarks on my small images.

What exactly do you mean by "post your page here?" Explain and I'll do it.

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To be perfectly honest NONE of us in here can really answer this.. We are at this point GUESSING since none of us can see your store's back end files. The issue stems from the fact that ALL of the image on your product detail pages are NOT reading from the IH2 cache folders, and that can only mean that some other module you are using is interfering with that process in some way.. Which module??? NO CLUE.. The lightbox contrib seemed most likely, but it may not be that.. Could be EZ Populate, could be something else.. I wish I could help more, but I am out of ideas here.. I strongly suggest searching this support thread and seeing if any other issues with EZ Populate pop up..

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Originally Posted by nigelt74

Just for comparison Micheal

This code is taken from

http://fantasiesrealm.com/market/ind...roducts_id=518
Which is DarkAngels site

Code:

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<a title="Fantasy Realms 2010 Calendar" rel="lightbox-g" href="bmz_cache/6/61c2f367159ac30e1bfb5ea647b78a31.image.408x320.jpeg">
<img width="225" height="176" title=" Fantasy Realms 2010 Calendar " alt="Fantasy Realms 2010 Calendar" src="bmz_cache/4/422553687778162b77707aec2943d187.image.225x176.jpeg">
<br>
<span class="imgLink">larger image</span></a>

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as you can see the HREF in her link is pointing at the bmzcache, also if you note when you click on the link the image is watermarked.

It might be an idea to post your page here, as it seems you should be able to get the large waterarked image through image handler, unless DarkAngel has used some strange voodoo to do it

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IH2 is a straight forward install.. It should just WORK.. Clearly there is another add-on that is interfering, and it's hard to say which one working in the blind..:no:

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

IH2 is a straight forward install.. It should just WORK.. Clearly there is another add-on that is interfering, and it's hard to say which one working in the blind..:no:

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Hi, Diva –

Since I completely reinstalled IH2 last night, and overwrote EVERY file in my shop with the IH2 counterpart, doesn't that rule out any other add-on interfering? If anything, it would seem that my doing that would break the other add-ons.

Yes, you are definately right about it being an extreme response - but when it is my good name and reputation on the line that I have worked for years to establish - with me any way. it emitted that extreme response.

I PM'd Dr. Byte yesterday to please remove it because of this thread - and he did so very quickly - THANKS Dr. Byte!

I am "over it" now and back to my usual not freaking out self :D and will continue to support this community with updates of other mods as I can and hope that it will be a much better experience than what trying to help in this case was. I have been building sites with zen cart since version 1.2.4 and have been in love with it from the first day I used it - and will not let an incident like this sway that dedication to this software, the developers and the community that uses it. :yes:

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

Sorry you were offended.. Not my intent at all.. I was simply expressing an opinion about how I thought things were handled. There was no anger or malice behind anything I wrote.. (though some might assume otherwise) Again, my concerns centered around the fact that the two mods being out there REALLY would have been a cause for confusion. Surely you can see that right?? (hence why this flurry of posts over the last few days..)

It's too bad you will walk away from this not wanting to share with the community as a result.. I personally think that is an extreme response to this whole situation, but certainly your prerogative to do so if you feel strongly about it..:huh:

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OK, I'm not quite ready to give up yet.

I've created a brand new DB, and a brand new install of v139. To this new install, I added IH2.

I believe there were three potential file conflicts between v139 and IH2. In all three cases, I took the IH2 files whole.

No new templates. No other add-ons. NOTHING but v139 and IH2.

I added two products. One I gave an image via the standard method (through editing the product details). The other, I gave an image via IH2.

I've set image settings for watermarks on medium and large images.

I get watermarks on rollover, but not on the images. Identical behavior to my working shop.

What on earth could I be doing wrong here? I think I've eliminated most of the variables.

Thanks.

Oops...here's the site if anyone wants to look at it:

http://www.cinderellaantiques.com/shop_v139_test/

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Oops...here's the site if anyone wants to look at it:

http://www.cinderellaantiques.com/shop_v139_test/

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Hi Michael

Not sure about the medium issue BUT You have the same issue regarding the large image, Image handler isn't installed correctly, when you click on the image and the larger one appears in the pop-up, the large image isn't water marked because it isn't going through image handler.

I don't know what browser you are using, but when you open the pop-up large image, right click on it and select image properties and it will teel you

http://www.cinderellaantiques.com/sh...ges/100001.jpg

is the image that is appearing

if imagehandler was working on the image, it would say
something like
http://www.cinderellaantiques.com/sh...gfhjgfsdkj.jpg

are you putting the popup-image file included with image handler up (I think thats the one, someone will need to correct me)

EDIT##########################################################################################____

have a look at this
http://www.cinderellaantiques.com/sh...ge.640x480.png

Image handler is working something is not correct in the pop-upcode

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

OK,
I believe there were three potential file conflicts between v139 and IH2. In all three cases, I took the IH2 files whole.

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I believe there should be 6 file conflicts
1 in admin
and 5 in the includes

Store_Root\admin\includes\modules\category_product_listing.php
Store_Root\includes\modules\pages\popup_image\header_php.php
Store_Root\includes\modules\pages\popup_image_additional\header_php.php
Store_Root\includes\modules\additional_images.php
Store_Root\includes\modules\main_product_image.php
Store_Root\includes\templates\template_default\popup_image_additional\tpl_main_p age.php

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

Oops...here's the site if anyone wants to look at it:

http://www.cinderellaantiques.com/shop_v139_test/

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nigelt74 may be onto something...lol

just another thought:

1. go to your server files and set your ftp client to allow you to see invisible files

2. check the bmz folder and see if you have a file called .keep

I do not have one in my installation and the thing works as it should but others have stated they do have it so...if you don't have one create it in a text editor. just creat an empty doc and save it as .keep then upload it to bmz_cache folder and see if that works.

BINGO!

Nigel, you're absolutely right: there are six. (I really need a better file compare/merge tool; that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it.)

I replaced all six with the IH2 version, and I'm now getting watermarks in all the desired locations.

I'll try to replicate this in my shop, and will report back.

One lingering issue, though...by taking the IH2 versions of these files, am I throwing away any v139 modifications that will eventually be necessary? A nice addition to the IH2 installation notes would be a description of how to merge these six files.

Anyway, this is the biggest progress I've made in ages. Thanks to EVERYONE for the help.

Update: I recopied the six files mentioned by Nigel above from IH2 into my shop. Watermarks are now WORKING! I'll get a chance to test it some more after I add some new products, but I see no reason it shouldn't continue to work with images imported with Easy Populate. Lightboxes are also watermarked. All is good.

I still have a lingering concern about "orphaning" the changes introduced to those files in v139, but I guess I'll deal with that if and when something comes up.

Thanks again to everyone. Nigel, if you're ever in the Bay Area, I owe you a pint and a cigar.

Hi Michael

Thats my issue at the moment, i am trying to work out what is imagehandler code and what is zen cart code so i can merge the changes into 1.3.9a versions of those 6 files.

On the whole there don't seem to be major differences in some of the files, whereas others do seem to be well and truly changed, also i want to make mine php 5.3 compatible, so i am kind waiting to see what diva Vocals comes out with, as i have kids underfoot, which doesn't help with code comparisons

Good to know you got it working though

Hey Diva

Is the current version of ImageHandler2 v7 based off 1.37 or 1.38 code, as i am just trying to figure which is which codewise

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Originally Posted by nigelt74

Hey Diva

Is the current version of ImageHandler2 v7 based off 1.37 or 1.38 code, as i am just trying to figure which is which codewise

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As reported in the doenloads, this is a 1.3.8 codebase.. (which is what the 3 previous versions were based off of..)

Your reputation was never on the line IMHO.. I had legitimate questions, and if you assumed that your reputation was on the line for asking legimate questions, there is nothing I can do about that..

Sorry you felt slighted by all of this, but my questions were not without merit, and I will not apologize for posing them..

Glad you've moved on.. I will do the same..

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Originally Posted by stellarweb

Yes, you are definately right about it being an extreme response - but when it is my good name and reputation on the line that I have worked for years to establish - with me any way. it emitted that extreme response.

I PM'd Dr. Byte yesterday to please remove it because of this thread - and he did so very quickly - THANKS Dr. Byte!

I am "over it" now and back to my usual not freaking out self :D and will continue to support this community with updates of other mods as I can and hope that it will be a much better experience than what trying to help in this case was. I have been building sites with zen cart since version 1.2.4 and have been in love with it from the first day I used it - and will not let an incident like this sway that dedication to this software, the developers and the community that uses it. :yes:

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Originally Posted by mzimmers

Hi, Diva –

Since I completely reinstalled IH2 last night, and overwrote EVERY file in my shop with the IH2 counterpart, doesn't that rule out any other add-on interfering? If anything, it would seem that my doing that would break the other add-ons.

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Nope.. and I think you issue is related to EZ Populate.. It's the only thing that explains why the images on your product details page are not using the IH2 image cache.. (search this thread for EZ Populate to see other related threads..)

Hello everybody.
I decided to take a long vacation from this forum because people were being judgmental about my person: rude, you think you know everything, the problem is not with the software but with you, etc.
To all those who are interested in my person let me say that I don't intend to date anyone of you, so please don't insist.
Now to the software: obviously, before release, rev. 7 was submitted to stress tests to verify that it was doing everything that it was supposed to do, and that the install would be straightforward and easy.
It is beyond me why some people, who are supposed to be seasoned webmasters, were having any issue with it, e.g. additional images.
The main reason why rev.7 was put forward was, first to help me, then the community who were struggling with an "updated version" that was breaking sites.
There is nothing wrong with rev.7, I even tested on PHP 5.3.1 and it works fine, in spite of the deprecated functions still in it.
There was no urgent need to update, since most ISPs will not move to 5.3.x in the immediate future.
So, if you feel any urgent need to update something that works, please back off and don't add to confusion.
Also, I think it is the fault of the Zen Cart team to not vet more closely updates to critical mods.
Now, 1.3.9b has been released, on that basis, and PHP 5.3.x a new update (rev.8) will be crafted.
Care will be taken that no regressions are in it, testing will be performed on previous versions of PHP too.
Erm...in case somebody wants to make this personal, it is not just me working on that, several guys and gals are, as for the credit, I could not care less.
Please be patient and don't add to confusion.

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As reported in the doenloads, this is a 1.3.8 codebase.. (which is what the 3 previous versions were based off of..)

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Cheers, i actually assumed that meant it was tested on 1.3.8 not necessary built using 1.3.8 code, anyway good to know, as i seem to be hitting a few snags in demerging the code, i think i'll wait for your new version

Hi, I am using Zen Cart v 1.3.9.a. I've tried to upload Image Handler 2 but I am getting messages "Warning: missing file (includes/aplication_top.php). What can I do about it? Is it possible to install IH2 in this ZC version?

Thanks for any help.

Now, in admin, I get message:
ih_heading_title
ih_version_not found

What to do, please?:frusty:

Ekele –

IH2 will work with v139. It sounds as though you're missing some files. Application_top.php is a core file (not part of IH2). If you're missing that file, it sounds as though part of your installation may have gone awry.

There are actually two application_top.php files: one in /admin/includes and one in /includes. It sounds like you're missing the latter file.

The second error message you reported suggests that you may have missed copying some of the IH2 files into your shop. I'd double check that as a first step.

Sorry for all those questions but we are just starting.

Now in Admin we are getting:

IH_HEADING_TITLE
IH_VERSION_NOT_FOUND

* IH_INSTALL
* IH_CLEAR_CACHE
* IH_SCAN_FOR_

When I click on those links I get message:

Not Found

The requested URL /my name/my name/FILENAME_IMAGE_HANDLER.php was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

So I guess, you are right. But how to fix it? Do i have to install IH again?:(

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Cheers, i actually assumed that meant it was tested on 1.3.8 not necessary built using 1.3.8 code, anyway good to know, as i seem to be hitting a few snags in demerging the code, i think i'll wait for your new version

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Awesome.. It's being tested as we speak right now.. There are several folks currently testing the new version as we speak.. (so far GOOD results being reported) Would you like to help test it? As with the current Rev 7 version we want to make sure we test it thoroughly with PHP 5.3, but also want to test backwards compatibility as well.. So PHP 5.2.X versions are also being tested.. If you are willing to test, PM me and I'll hit you back with instructions..

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So I guess, you are right. But how to fix it? Do i have to install IH again?

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There is no point in reinstalling IH2, if you are missing files, just overwrite everything.
If your core installation went bad, as it seems, the easiest way is to start over, since you are just starting.

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Originally Posted by ekele

Sorry for all those questions but we are just starting.

So I guess, you are right. But how to fix it? Do i have to install IH again?:(

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you should upload all the store files all ovre again as well as the ih2 ones and make sure you put the ih2 files where they should go.

please do not use a program (like fantasitico) to upload/install your store things, do it manually by opening the zip and uploading them through ftp.

you just starting out will make things a bit easier.

:DThanks for advice, I did it!:D

Some time back I reported that animated gifs (in my case used for category images) did not work with this mod. While a workaround was posted, I did not follow through with it.

Now that this mod is undergoing a revision, is there any chance that animated gifs will work?

TIA

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Originally Posted by dw08gm

Some time back I reported that animated gifs (in my case used for category images) did not work with this mod. While a workaround was posted, I did not follow through with it.

Now that this mod is undergoing a revision, is there any chance that animated gifs will work?

TIA

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Nope sorry.. Here's some posts which indicate why:
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpo...postcount=2334
http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showpo...postcount=3282

Any word on the 139 version of IH?

How's testing going? What hurdles are left before a general release?

Thanks,
Mike

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Originally Posted by Feznizzle

Any word on the 139 version of IH?

How's testing going? What hurdles are left before a general release?

Thanks,
Mike

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Testing is going fine.. No hurdles.. But remember all of us volunteers in this effort are working folks with day jobs, families, other obligations, etc.. No ETA just yet.. POSSIBLY this weekend, but again, schedules permitting..

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Originally Posted by DivaVocals

Testing is going fine.. No hurdles.. But remember all of us volunteers in this effort are working folks with day jobs, families, other obligations, etc.. No ETA just yet.. POSSIBLY this weekend, but again, schedules permitting..

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DivaV....are there going to be any drastic or new things with the 1.3.9 version? I guess other than the ability to work with php5, cause the one you all revised already works great in 1.3.9 now...at my store.

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Originally Posted by DarkAngel

DivaV....are there going to be any drastic or new things with the 1.3.9 version? I guess other than the ability to work with php5, cause the one you all revised already works great in 1.3.9 now...at my store.

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As I've posted previously Rev 8 is a small change that will add PHP 5.3 and Zen 1.3.9b compatibility.. We're likely not going to include a second version (as I previously posted) which supports backwards compatibility with previous versions of Zen Cart.. You will need to upgrade to 1.3.9b to use Rev 8..

thank you , I missed that earlier on

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thank you , I missed that earlier on

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No worries.. Doesn't sound like you will need to upgrade at all..

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No worries.. Doesn't sound like you will need to upgrade at all..

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me either, i just added the code from the files that matched from the zip to the sore files and uploaded...works great...love this addon