moving attributes up the page?

[eggrush]

How do i move the options up the page to go just after the starting at price text, can it be done?

heres a link to a page on my site where i have set them up but they are to low if you ask me.

http://www.canvas-style-art.co.uk/in...oducts_id=1244


Cheers
Egg

Also where is says Please Choose:
can we edit this text, how?

[fairestcape]

Couple of things:-

1. The "sections" in the Product Info page can be shifted around by editing tpl_product_info_display.php .

The ORIGINAL of this file is in:-

includes/templates/template_default/templates/

COPY this to your local drive and open it in a good text editor.

Look for the sections delimited by:-

<!--BOF .............>
(some php code here)
<!--EOF .............>

Find the BOF - EOF section relating to attributes; CUT it from it's current position and then PASTE it ABOVE or BELOW the section (also BOF - EOF) where you want it to appear.

SAVE the edited version, and FTP it to:-

includes/templates/YOUR-TEMPLATE/templates/.

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2. Your header is WAY TOO BIG! I have a wide-screen monitor and your logo takes up practically the whole screen. Every time a new page loads I have the ADDED TASK of scrolling down to see product info. This (for me) is rather irritating as it adds EXTRA WORK in getting to see your product data. Perhaps you could make it smaller? ---- a LOT smaller?
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3. You have set up your attributes incorrectly.

Instead of having ONE OPTION NAME for Canvas Size, Poster Size and Delivery Options, under which you should have all your different OPTION VALUES...

You have set up a different OPTION NAME for each possible choice, for each poster size and for each shipping option.

It is therefore possible for me to click ALL your checkboxes, and you will get an order that looks like this:-


Tiger - 24 x 36 on Canvas

CHOOSE A CANVAS SIZE: - 16 X 24 CANVAS
CHOOSE A CANVAS SIZE: - 24 X 24 CANVAS
CHOOSE A CANVAS SIZE: - 24 X 36 CANVAS
CHOOSE A CANVAS SIZE: - 8 X 12 CANVAS
ORDER A POSTER PRINT: SIZES - A1 POSTER
ORDER A POSTER PRINT: SIZES - A3 POSTER
ORDER A POSTER PRINT: SIZES - A4 PRINT
EXTRA DELIVERY OPTIONS - NEXT DAY DHL DELIVERY
EXTRA DELIVERY OPTIONS - RUSH THIS CANVAS TO ME WITHIN 3 DAYS!
EXTRA DELIVERY OPTIONS - RUSH THIS POSTER TO ME WITHIN 3 DAYS!
EXTRA DELIVERY OPTIONS - SATURDAY DELIVERY

Sub-Total: £495.78

How do you know, from this, what size I want, or how I want it shipped... and look at the total price!!!?

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For PLEASE CHOOSE:

includes/languages/english/product_info.php

Line #15 : define('TEXT_PRODUCT_OPTIONS', 'Please Choose: ');


Again, save edited file to your custom folder.

[eggrush]

With regards to the different options, i have sorted them out into 3 cats so people can decide if they want to buy a canvas and/or a poster then if they want to quicken up the delivery process or leave it as standard as we offer free P&P to all UK orders, i think it works as it gives people the choice to order what they like,
I would love to colour code them into 3 sections ie: canvas sizes in say red, posters sizes in orange and delivery in yellow, would this be style sheet thing?

I get your point with the header but that was the only way I can make the logo work, size wise anyway as I wanted impact when you land on us but I may be changing that very soon so I will take your comments on board also as someone else said that same thing to.

[eggrush]

How do you know, from this, what size I want, or how I want it shipped... and look at the total price!!!?

I can tell because the title of the artwork is at the top with it overall price set to zero then any option clicked will be added together to give you a final total, also say if a US buyer comes onto the site there will also be a shipping charge added also, i think i have it covered but if i am going down the wrong road let me know.

Egg

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With regards to the different options, i have sorted them out into 3 cats so people can decide if they want to buy a canvas and/or a poster then if they want to quicken up the delivery process or leave it as standard as we offer free P&P to all UK orders, i think it works as it gives people the choice to order what they like,

The point is this... customers can click more than one box and this will confuse the order. Keep it the way you want to, but if too many customers cause the errors described, you may be on the phone to them to sort it out... Then there's the added hassle of refunding them.

In my experience, customers are "a bit dumb" - and you need to minimise the possibilites of "user error".

I would love to colour code them into 3 sections ie: canvas sizes in say red, posters sizes in orange and delivery in yellow, would this be style sheet thing?

Yes, this should be possible as I think each attribute gets assigned a style ID.

...as I wanted impact when you land on us...

The impact that you need to make is through your PRODUCTS... Most big online retailers have learned this, and their logos are usually very small. The customer is there not to admire your skill at creating a corporate brand, but to see PRODUCTS, and the more PRODUCT images that you can shove in their faces, the better!

Go to any of the big online retailers and see how effectively they push PRODUCT and PURCHASE INCENTIVES in front of the customer. (Their logo is usually a tiny "postage stamp" image in the top left-hand corner - with the bulk of the screen focusing on how to get people to BUY THINGS.)

eg: www.tesco.co.uk, www.comet.co.uk, www.dixons.co.uk

[eggrush]

very good point with regards to branding i will do something about that, just one question what kind of errors can happen then? you mean if someone clicks the wrong size or tow or three products and goes through the CO then realizes what they have done and asks for a refund, or is it a zen cart error or something?

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I can tell because the title of the artwork is at the top with it overall price set to zero then any option clicked will be added together to give you a final total, also say if a US buyer comes onto the site there will also be a shipping charge added also, i think i have it covered but if i am going down the wrong road let me know.

Egg

The point is this... a customer can click ALL the boxes (perhaps in error, but they can click ALL of them). The result will be a SUBMITTED order that could choose ALL shipping options. How will you know which one to apply? Do a test order (click all your options before you send it) to see what I mean.

You want a system where there is a CHOICE, but only ONE option value can be selected. You need to use radio buttons or a dropdown, and this requires ONE OPTION NAME, with SEVERAL associated option values. This will ensure that if I click ONE option, then decide that I want to change it and click ANOTHER option, my first choice will be "cancelled".

[eggrush]

so for the
EXTRA DELIVERY OPTIONS


i should use a radiobox, thanks for pointing that out

egg

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Okay, this is what you need to do...

Essentially, you have THREE main attributes:

1. Canvas Size
2. Poster Size
3. Shipping Options

So you need to create OPTION NAMES for

1. Canvas Size
2. Poster Size
3. Shipping Options

Choose "RADIO BUTTONS" or "DROPDOWN" as the TYPE, for each of the above NAMES.

Then, once you have created these OPTION NAMES, go to the OPTION VALUES section of the attributes manager.

Now, Set up your FIRST OPTION VALUE for "Canvas Size"

In the scroller dropdown headed Option Name, find "Canvas Size", then in the Option Value input field, type: 8 X 12 .

Give it a sort order of 10

Click INSERT button

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Now, do the same thing again...

In the scroller dropdown headed Option Name, find "Canvas Size", then in the Option Value input field, type: 16 X 24 .

Give it a sort order of 20

Click INSERT button

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Now, do the same thing again...

In the scroller dropdown headed Option Name, find "Canvas Size", then in the Option Value input field, type: 24 X 24 .

Give it a sort order of 30

Click INSERT button

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Now, do the same thing again...

In the scroller dropdown headed Option Name, find "Canvas Size", then in the Option Value input field, type: 24 X 36 .

Give it a sort order of 40

Click INSERT button

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Now you have ONE OPTION NAME called "Canvas Size"

... with FOUR OPTION VALUES

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Apply the same principle to your other two OPTION NAMES

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Now apply this to appropriate posters...