Thanks for the reply Kobra,

I discovered something quite usefull today.

I ended up inputing a master catagory for a given item, lets say socks again.

Then a subcatagorie, size. Then another subcatagorie, colour.

What this did is made it so when anyone clicks on socks they are taken to the size tree and from there to the colour tree.

The trouble with this was the customer would find his exact size and colour easily enough but they wouldnt see all the other colours unless they backtracked and repeated for every colour and size in the line, not ideal.

So I went back to my text deliminated files and took the headings off the sizes and colours. I now assumed that all the socks would be lumped together in one big heap all jumbled up.

Instead all the socks still had sub catagories of size and colour only now you can click on socks to get the whole lot up in one go or you could click on sizes to get individual sizes up with ALL the colours or go right to the end of the tree and click on colour to get the exact size and colour up plus everything has its own code.

So even though I had removed the subs they were still present only they werent so limiting.

One thing though, if anyone can help me out on this the catagorie of socks again as an example shows triple the number of socks in the menu tree that are there and the size catagorie shows double whats there.