Free Gifts-Dangling Carrot support

[paul3648]

The only issue that I can see right now is if a coupon or order total discount such as quantity discount is used during checkout and that brings the cart down below the threshold, the gift will not be removed. I am going to check into that to see what I need to do to change it. If anyone wants to chip in an opinion on how to do it, I am all ears!

I don't think you want to do this. If you are dangling a free gift, and then the gift is taken away as soon as the customer uses a coupon, it might annoy the customer enough to abandon the cart.

[lankeeyankee]

Yes, the display is correct with those original lines.

I've just installed this on my test site by using the compare and merge method, as well as modifying the main_template_vars.php as per your instructions to delete the gift when the cart contents fall below the threshold. If the gift item has attributes, errors are thrown up, so it's best just to remove any attributes from gift items. Otherwise it seems to work well.

Thanks for reporting the bug. Can you please post the error so I can look at it? I'll see if I can get it to work.

[lankeeyankee]

I don't think you want to do this. If you are dangling a free gift, and then the gift is taken away as soon as the customer uses a coupon, it might annoy the customer enough to abandon the cart.

Yeah, I see your point about a coupon, but what about group discount, quantity discounts, etc? Unfortunately, these do not factor into the cart total until the checkout page due to the zen cart structure and order totals like the discounts. So, they shouldn't have qualified for the gift in the first place but there is no way to address this until the checkout page. I guess you could just leave it the way it is so no one gets upset about losing the gift. It's better to get the sale even if the customer gets the gift for less than the threshold amount than to lose it because they feel cheated that they got to choose a gift in the shopping cart page only to lose it during checkout. It's a limitation of the core process since the shopping cart page's logic doesn't call the order totals modules.

[paul3648]

Yeah, I see your point about a coupon, but what about group discount, quantity discounts, etc?

I offer group discounts on my site, and I don't see any problem with giving the free gift along with the discount. Just factor in cost of the gift when setting the threshold. A slightly lower profit is always better than no profit at all.

[paul3648]

Thanks for reporting the bug. Can you please post the error so I can look at it? I'll see if I can get it to work.

If the gift has an attribute (in my case color), the customer is sent to the product page to select the attribute, then presses a "return to cart" button. But the free product is never added to the cart.

I think it's simpler just to disallow attributes. The fewer choices the better...

Thanks for all your work on this module. I can see it's going to be very useful.

[lankeeyankee]

I do see your point about the discounts and I agree. I think I will leave it as it is.

I am going to look at the code to see if I can add attributes right onto the gift listing on the shopping cart page. I have wanted to do this with other modules so it is worth me spending some time looking into the possibility. For now, I will put in the readme file in the next update that gifts should not have attributes.

My next task is the option of displaying only gifts within a threshold based on the current cart value.

Let me know if you run into any other bugs.

[paul3648]

Let me know if you run into any other bugs.

The gifts show up on the products_new page. I think the module was designed so that gifts are not displayed in the regular product listings.

[lankeeyankee]

The gifts show up on the products_new page. I think the module was designed so that gifts are not displayed in the regular product listings.

I see that they show up even with the category disabled. I am not sure what can be done about that, that is a zen cart core function. You could probably hardcode some logic into the new products function that won't display new products from category x. There is also a mod in the downloads called hide categories that might work for this http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=391 If you want to give it a try please let us know your results.

I personally don't mind people seeing the gifts, I have enabled the Free Gift category so that it shows with all of the rest of the categories. I want people to be able to see the free gifts to entice them to buy more, you cannot add the gifts to the cart so in my opinion it can only help to show them to customers everywhere possible.

[paul3648]

I personally don't mind people seeing the gifts, I have enabled the Free Gift category so that it shows with all of the rest of the categories. I want people to be able to see the free gifts to entice them to buy more, you cannot add the gifts to the cart so in my opinion it can only help to show them to customers everywhere possible.

That's a good idea. I turned off the "Display Product Buy Now Button" for new listings and now have an acceptable format.

Are you using this module on your live site?

[paul3648]

Here's another little bug. If the customer logs in, adds items to his cart, chooses a free gift, then logs out before completing the purchase, then comes back to the site and adds items to his guest cart, chooses another gift, logs in, the previously chosen gift remains in his cart, so now he's got two gifts.