not sure about how to set up email

[Adam65]

HI I have set up my zcart (1.3.8a)

But I can't get the email function to work.

I have windowsxp, apache, php, mysql installed... so I running my own server.

I have 1 client with his zencart attached to www.attackinfo.com.au

The problem is that when a customer fills in the log in form and enters in his email address and submits the form he gets a message: Email Error: SMTP Error: Could not connect to SMTP host.

Can someone help me set this up so it can connect.

Thankyou

[DrByte]

Um ... please don't take this the wrong way ...

But ...

A PC running Windows XP has no business running a live website. And, since Windows doesn't have any built-in support for sending email for websites, it can't do it unless you either install a mailserver application to do that and learn how to configure and run it, or tell your web apps to send email through some external server.

You are BETTER advised to put the site on a real live webserver and test your emails from there, since that's where you'll need to make them work anyway.
And, to stop the SMTP Error messages when running it from your PC, set the "Send Emails" option to "false" so that it completely skips all email functionality, so you can play with the rest of the functionality in the meantime.

[Adam65]

thanks for the reply.

Why can't I run a live website off the server I have set up?

What sould I be running as an operating system to host live sites?

have you visited the url?

[DrByte]

Unless you have extensive experience with properly securing the webserver against all manner of attacks, then I can almost guarantee that your webserver will be wide open to attacks. And, if you're asking about how to get the webserver to handle email, I'm certain you've not enough experience to properly secure the server. No offence intended in that statement or my posts. Just an observation.

Also, a self-operated PC is seldom tuned well to run a webserver with adequate performance, both at the database level and the webservice level. Plus, if it is on a computer that's shared as a user PC with just having the web services in the background, one or the other is most certainly going to affect the other, making your customers' shopping experience less than optimal.

In addition, a home-based PC is typically connected behind a slow-speed ISP connection, which introduces a few potential problems: Most ISPs don't offer adequate speed for a busy website. Most ISPs frown upon commercial use of their services, so you might be in violation of your contract with them. Most ISPs block certain ports that are typically vulnerable to spam, but which are usually required by live webservers for normal use ... including port 25 which is used for outgoing email.

It's not so much the operating system, although that's a part of it.

Naturally, you can do what you like. Just be advised that the storeowner and their customers will likely end up frustrated and may not even know that it's the so-called server and its location that's the problem.

Again, no offense intended. Just trying to help paint the bigger picture.

[Adam65]

Thanks again for replying.

What do you think is causing the error message:
Email Error: SMTP Error: Could not connect to SMTP host.?

I will gladly set up a dedicated mail server (but try a virtual one first) if that is what I have to do.

I admit I am not very experienced at running a webserver but I am trying to get the experience by setting one up.

Also the website I am currently hosting is a wholesale outlet for a retail aquarium in our local area. The owner has about 10 wholesale customers that he sells his fish to and previously just faxed out a list to them every week. Now they can go to the website and actually see what they are buying and (hopefully if I can get the mail working) place orders online.

There won't be more than 10 people on at a time and if his wholesale customerbase grows we will move the site to a paid-for host.

The advice I glean from your post is:

1. learn how to secure my webserver from attacks and in doing this I will learn what I need to know about setting up the mail handling function of the webserver.

2. dedicate a pc for the server, properly tune it to adequately run database and webservice functions... don't run the webservices in the background.

3. check with my ISP what ports may be blocked and if I can host a commercial website.

I can learn all of these things and I figure now that my problem lies more with the webserver than zencart.

I take no offense but was looking for some support in my endeavour instead of someone totally shooting holes in it.
I am appreciative that you took the time to reply though.

Thank you.

[DrByte]

I didn't mean to deflate your enthusiasm for learning. Just drawing very important attention to the matter so that you walk forward with eyes wide open.
As for learning more about running a webserver, I might suggest poking around someplace like the forums at webhostingtalk.com and various websites dedicated to that topic.


In terms of getting email to work from a server behind an ISP firewall, you have a few issues to consider:
- port 25 is likely blocked by the ISP firewall, so you'll likely need to use port 26 (if your SMTP server is listening on that port) or 465 or 587
- since you're needing to have the other server do all your emailing, you'll need to set email transport to SMTPAUTH, and provide server/user/pwd/port details

You may find some help in the many email troubleshooting tips here: http://www.zen-cart.com/wiki/index.p...Email_Problems

[Adam65]

Thanks again Iwill try smptauth.

I will let you know how I go.

[Adam65]

Email Error: SMTP Error: Could not connect to SMTP host.

Hi again,

I have tried smtpauth, smpt, and php as email transport methods.

I have installed Mercury mailserver and configured it to the point that I can send to and receive ok to my isp email address using outlook to collect the mail (sending directly from mercury).

I am stumped as to why I keep getting this message whether I send email from the zencart admin or try and log in a dummy customers info (with an active external email address).

I have a feeling I am just not getting the email options in configuration/email options (zen admin) right... or I have missed some basic addition to a config file somewhere.

I have read every post regarding mercury but I'm still getting the above error message.

Can anyone suggest a possible fix? If someone could explain what factors would possily cause this error message to display that would be a good start. (obviously Zen Cart is not finding the SMTP Host... but how can I direct it to FIND the host I have successfully set up on my system?)

I might add that after days trying to solve this I already feel very frustrated and very stupid (and as you read this you probably would agree with the latter) but if anyone decides to try to help I would be eternally grateful.

I have successsfully used telnet to connect directly to my isp's mail server so I figure port 25 is not blocked.

I should add that I have set up a gmail account for testing, I have an ISP email account, then in mercury I have adam@localhost, postmaster@localhost, admin@localhost and tester@localhost.

Knowing that, is it possible someone might be able to tell me what I need to enter into configuration-emailoptions-Email Address (Displayed to Contact you) and Email Address (sent FROM) and SMTP Email Account Mailbox and SMTP Email Mail Host? ( i mean i think i have tried every possible combination but please please go ahead and tell me what you think they should be if possible.)

And then ... there's the PHP.ini file here;s what's in there now:
[mail function]
; For Win32 only.
; http://php.net/smtp
SMTP = 121.223.214.219
; http://php.net/smtp-port
smtp_port = 25

; For Win32 only.
; http://php.net/sendmail-from
sendmail_from = admin@localhost

Can you see something i've done wrong here?

Someone must have been able to set it up with the following like me: windowsxp, xampp, apache, php, mysql. I hope someone sympathetic to that setup might answer.

Thankyou

[DrByte]

Someone must have been able to set it up with the following like me: windowsxp, xampp, apache, php, mysql.

What I do when I'm using a windoze PC as a test server for development or testing a new site or whatever, is this:

a) Install xampp (on XP SP2) (AGAIN: XAMPP is ONLY suitable for temporary testing/staging, and NOT for a live website ... it's simply not secure enough for a live site)

b) Install Zen Cart v1.3.8a normally, using all defaults other than giving the database name/user/pwd details.

c) Go into Admin->Configuration->Email Options, set the following:
- email transport = smtpauth
- fill in all the SMTP fields with the account name, password, server, port ... all from known working settings used in outlook or any other email program that is successfully using the same smtp account to send emails ... note: outlook is set with the "require authentication" box on the SMTP outbound user account settings ... basically this is the same as "smtpauth" in ZC.
In my case port 25 is blocked unless I'm sending email through my ISP's mailserver, which I'm not, so I use port 26 which I know is open on my hosting company's mailserver where the smtp account exists.

d) Use zen cart normally. Emails are sent directly through the smtp server specified in the email options settings.
Doesn't use mercury ... no need to. Don't even have mercury installed.
Nothing special changed in php.ini other than whatever xampp already does.

[Adam65]

Hi DrByte,


I very much appreciate your reply.
Thanks for persevering with me.

I will attempt to follow your advice accurately.

I am at the stage now where, just to see it working, I am looking around for a proper host, although at this stage just for testing.

Thanks again. I will post my results later today.

Regards,
Adam