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    Default Re: Admin Simple Create Order Support Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedotted View Post
    I was jsut messing around and got this on another weird result here is something even crazier Add New Product to an exisiting order in Super order page works without flaws except the shipping table part

    This is new turn of events I guess see screenshot just does not make since lol
    Ummm this is not coming from Super Orders. My guess is that you've installed Edit Orders v1.55. From their changelog:
    9. Prevented deleting of orders with 0 products.
    If the order has to be deleted this can be done on the orders page.
    For this the installation instructions changed and a new button was added.
    If the order has zero products the button changes from 'edit' to 'add product' and then takes you to the
    add product page instead of the edit page.
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    Default Re: Admin Simple Create Order Support Thread

    I am not trying to hijacking anything and secondly this mod needs more work before it is worth using all the manual entering shipping rates makes the alternative more simple solution. I do not recommend anyone with very little knowledge use this mod

    I am sure you have a lot of time in it and most of us will probably wait till you lease your version to see what it is like. But like I said before in other words it is a shame such a good feature to be pretty much abandoned.

    I was hoping for an easy fix since it isn't going to happen the alternatives will work for now.

    Thanks for your time on the matter

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    Default Re: Admin Simple Create Order Support Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedotted View Post
    I am not trying to hijacking anything
    Wasn't trying to suggest that you were.. I merely suggested that if this discussion is going to veer off into a Super Orders discussion that the support thread for Super Orders might be a better place to do that.. 'tis all.. Didn't imply ANYTHING else in my earlier statement..

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedotted View Post
    Ithis mod needs more work before it is worth using all the manual entering shipping rates makes the alternative more simple solution.
    Perhaps it's not what YOU need/want, but based on my PMs others in the community are interested in this solution even if the shipping rates table is not included.. (and I've been CLEAR that if I submit what I have working that the shipping rates tables will not be included.. if I find time to add this functionality back I will.. or maybe someone else will come along and do it..)

    It's not a PERFECT solution, but IMHO neither is a mod with HALF working features as this mod sits today. The rate tables are a very nice feature to be sure, but the exclusion of them does NOT stop this mod from functioning as it's intended to. The basic functionality of being able to create an order is there even if the shipping rate tables are not.. The shipping rates tables and the customer e-mails DO NOT work well in the versions of this mod currently available.. Not all store owners are okay with partially working mods..

    And YES there are other solutions for creating orders from the admin side.. Login As Customer is indeed one of those options.. However, there are store owners who like this mod and have no issue with there not being a shipping rate table included. (versus using a half working rate table)

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedotted View Post
    I do not recommend anyone with very little knowledge use this mod
    And I respectfully have to disagree.. For those who want to get this working it's a simple four step matter

    1. Install this mod from Ivan's blog
    2. Install Edit Orders v2.04 and replace the Edit Orders files which come with this mod
    3. Install Add Customers from Admin v1.07 and replace the Add Customers from Admin which come with this mod
    4. Create the create_orders_functions.php

    That should get anyone a working version of Create Orders (MINUS the half working shipping rate tables and the half working customer notification e-mail)

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedotted View Post
    I am sure you have a lot of time in it and most of us will probably wait till you lease your version to see what it is like. But like I said before in other words it is a shame such a good feature to be pretty much abandoned.

    I was hoping for an easy fix since it isn't going to happen the alternatives will work for now.
    If I release the version I have (and I probably will as soon as my time permits..) it will be WITHOUT the rates tables and WITHOUT the e-mail notifications. Neither is an easy fix and as I have stated a few times in this thread, both fixes are a little over my head to address.. So hopefully in this open source community, someone else will along, take an interest in this mod, and take a stab at adding it back. Hopefully they will address the current issues with the rates table so that it CORRECTLY grabs rates for ALL active shipping modules.
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    Default Re: Admin Simple Create Order Support Thread

    I am assuming the tables were removed from the edit_orders.php files correct? If so I will have a guy I know hit it up and see if it can be added back properly, just making sure I am sending him in the right direction.

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    Default Re: Admin Simple Create Order Support Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedotted View Post
    I am assuming the tables were removed from the edit_orders.php files correct? If so I will have a guy I know hit it up and see if it can be added back properly, just making sure I am sending him in the right direction.
    Not sure what you mean by this question (database tables, shipping tables, HTML tables??)..

    So let me say this.

    The shipping rate code is code Ivan added to the edit_orders.php files which attempted to pull in the same shipping rate data that customer's see in the store. There are two class files in the Create Orders fileset which support this code's functionality. (I posted the names of those files earlier in this thread)

    As I have posted previously, the shipping rate table code did NOT work the way it should have. It did not display the correct shipping rates for flat rate shipping or per item shipping, and needs to be FULLY tested that it works for all shipping modules.. UPS appeared to work fine, but I did not test USPS. Furthermore it should also support FedEx shipping for those who use the FedEx shipping module. (as far as I can tell Ivan's code would not support the FedEx shipping module)

    So when I submit a new version of Create Orders it will be without the shipping rates table code. IMHO a mod with HALF/NON WORKING functionality is not USEFUL to the community.
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    Default Re: Admin Simple Create Order Support Thread

    I agree but I am making sure I was sending the right direction to him edit_orders.php was the answer I was looking for.

    I will have him compare the two versions and see what he can do maybe with some luck it will not be as hard as we think.

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    Default Re: Admin Simple Create Order Support Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by bluedotted View Post
    I agree but I am making sure I was sending the right direction to him edit_orders.php was the answer I was looking for.

    I will have him compare the two versions and see what he can do maybe with some luck it will not be as hard as we think.
    It's not about being HARD. For someone who knows programming I'm sure it will be a snap to put this together. But (no offense to Ivan) while this (rate tables) was a good IDEA, the execution of it in this mod left a LOT to be desired.

    For this feature to be done right it requires some PLANNING and forethought not simply just some code slapped together..

    DrBtye is right.. What this requires does indeed involve duplicating a ton of storefront code in the admin. It'll be great until there is a revision of these same functions through a Zen Cart upgrade. Every time there is a Zen Cart modification which affects the rate tables in the storefront code, the code would also have to be updated on the admin side.. It's a small nightmare to code this, and it's also a nightmare to MAINTAIN this. ESPECIALLY since this mod is depending on two independent mods to function..
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