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    Default 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    Greetings


    URL: h t t p : / / b o d y b y b a m b o o . c o m

    as a note we began using zencart about three weeks ago, version 1.3.9d and yes i have done searches in the forum - no joy.

    Not sure at what point this happened because we recently hired someone to do the database population for categories/products in our new excursion into ZC, but today i noticed that 'Product - General' is no longer the default nor one of the drop down choices in the admin panel for adding products. It has disappeared. Everything is going in as product type 'test', a holdover from following one or other tutorial we used in learning the system. Our products, clothing, are appropriate for the "Product - General' product type.

    At first I was very alarmed until I realized that up to this point our lumbering fumbling toward setting up this shop has been more or less fraught with the typical danger, frustration and then a modicum of success. It is basically working.

    My question is:
    I have a sneaking suspicion from somewhere that there is some special voodoo associated with using 'Product - General' as a product type that we are missing out on in some underlying layer that will jump up and shoot us in the foot. I have even seen that string in several of the php files in the course of tweaking the overrides.

    What consequences might face us in not changing this situation?

    ADVthanxANCE

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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    Quote Originally Posted by zenHomeboy View Post
    .....because we recently hired someone to do the database population for categories/products in our new excursion into ZC, but today i noticed....
    Did you ask the person you hired if they have changed anything in the file system and if so, what did they change??

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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    Well, we here are all new at zen cart, and she is more or less computer-naive wrt what you're asking. She sits at an admin screen, creates categories, and enters products and their prices, etc, uploads their images.

    I was remiss in not pointing her attention to the product type dropdown, but I suspect that by the time she started working the 'Product - General' was gone.

    Can any of the more knowledgeable people on the forum
    a. explain what it means not to have this product type appear as an option ie. what's missing where?

    b. say whether there's some negative effect that can present itself now or down the road

    c. tell us is there something that has to be fixed and if so, where to start?


    Can someone please lend a hand here?

    thank you.
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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    Could you go to the Catalog ... Product Types ...

    What do you see listed there?
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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    Here's what are listed under Admin -> Catalog -> Product Types:

    test
    Product - Music
    Document - General
    Document - Product
    Product - Free Shipping

    as I might have mentioned 'test' was created I believe in the dim first days of walking thru a tutorial, maybe in Goh Koon Hoek's book.
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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    Click the EDIT button on the one that reads test ...

    Look at the URL ... do you see:
    ptID=1

    in it?

    If not, stop ...

    If so, go to phpMyAdmin and browse the table:
    product_type

    Is test set as type_id 1?

    If so, check the table:
    product_type_layout

    Browse the table and look at the ones for:
    product_type_id

    that are set to 1 ...

    Do they all contain somewhere in he configuration_key:
    PRODUCT_INFO

    If so, go back to the table:
    product_type

    Delete the record marked as type_id 1

    Then run the SQL command:
    Code:
    INSERT INTO product_types VALUES (1, 'Product - General', 'product', '1', 'Y', '', now(), now());
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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    >>>Click the EDIT button on the one that reads test ...

    >>>Look at the URL ... do you see: ptID=1 in it?

    yes

    >>>If not, stop ...

    >>>If so, go to phpMyAdmin and browse the table: product_type

    >>>Is test set as type_id 1?

    yes

    >>>If so, check the table: product_type_layout

    >>>Browse the table and look at the ones for: product_type_id that are set to 1 ...
    >>>Do they all contain somewhere in he configuration_key: PRODUCT_INFO


    there are 18 of them ... all but the last three do.

    The following DO NOT:


    DEFAULT_PRODUCT_TAX_CLASS_ID

    DEFAULT_PRODUCT_PRODUCTS_VIRTUAL

    DEFAULT_PRODUCT_PRODUCTS_IS_ALWAYS_FREE_SHIPPING


    So, I don't know how to proceed from here. Is there something in your instructions that needs to modified ?

    THANK YOU so much for taking the time to look at my problem and guide me toward help with it.








    >>>If so, go back to the table:
    product_type

    >>>Delete the record marked as type_id 1

    >>>Then run the SQL command:
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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    There should be 31 records in the product_type_layout for the product_type_id = 1 ...

    You can double check the count with the SQL:
    Code:
    SELECT * FROM product_type_layout WHERE product_type_id =1;
    and see what the Total is ...

    Can you do a search on the products table where products_type = 1 ... how many products are using it?

    The SQL for this is:
    Code:
    SELECT * FROM products WHERE products_type =1;
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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    You are right - there are 31 records. Blame it on my very limited experience and knowledge of SQL ...

    It looks like there are 61 products ( basically all our input) using product_type 1.

    and also, of course if there are actually 31 records (rather than the 18 I could see originally) not all of them contain the PRODUCT_INFO string that you asked me about in your prior post.
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    Default Re: 'Product - General' has disappeared!! Certain Disaster?

    That is why I gave you the SQL commands to be sure ...

    Backup your database and then do the delete of the test product type and run the insert sql for the Product General ... does the miracle occur?
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