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    Default Re: Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    Quote Originally Posted by Limitless View Post
    I do use it to fill out the common form stuff, name, email, etc.
    Not saying it auto submitted the form, but How do I know if filled out a hidden field?

    autocomplete=off is often used on CC # fields and is a good solution.
    It depends on how the form handler is setup to deal with the hidden fields.. But if you have an auto-filler that is filling out hidden fields I'd be concerned about using this auto form filler.. It means it's behaving like the bots this solution is meant to defeat..
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    Default Re: Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    auto-fill is EASILY defeated by adding autocomplete="off" to the form markup for the various form fields.
    Quote Originally Posted by Limitless View Post
    autocomplete=off is often used on CC # fields and is a good solution.
    ... and is also what's used in the upcoming v1.5.1
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    Default Re: Bad news for Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    Quote Originally Posted by DrByte View Post
    It's built-in to the core files (not addons) of the next release of Zen Cart.
    Bad news for simple css/php antispam solution! It was broken by spammers and bad bots:
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    Default Re: Bad news for Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    It's no magic pill.
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    Default Re: Bad news for Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    Quote Originally Posted by bypill View Post
    Bad news for simple css/php antispam solution! It was broken by spammers and bad bots:
    178.141.109.199
    94.181.194.59
    94.181.240.194
    94.181.230.46
    94.181.196.252
    173.242.118.223
    94.181.230.46
    94.181.223.202
    91.201.64.223
    37.112.225.158
    37.112.234.221
    37.112.236.133
    37.112.226.0
    ......
    and regular CAPTCHAs can also be defeated.. They are not magic bullets.. they are deterrents which work MUCH MORE often than they fail..
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    Default Re: Bad news for Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    In addition to the honeypot field I also added a timer to my contact us/ask a question forms...if the form is submitted too fast (like 3 seconds) I treat it as spam.
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    Default Re: Bad news for Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    Quote Originally Posted by torvista View Post
    In addition to the honeypot field I also added a timer to my contact us/ask a question forms...if the form is submitted too fast (like 3 seconds) I treat it as spam.
    Is that easy to do?

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    Default Re: Bad news for Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    Quote Originally Posted by torvista View Post
    In addition to the honeypot field I also added a timer to my contact us/ask a question forms...if the form is submitted too fast (like 3 seconds) I treat it as spam.
    Can you please post your timer code here so we can try it? This was working great for us, now in the past 2 or 3 days we are getting spam when we have never gotten a single one since implementing this. I wonder if that's because it was added to the core and has gotten the attention of spammers now?

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    Default Re: Bad news for Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    I'll post the timer code asap...
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    Default Re: Bad news for Simple CSS/PHP AntiSpam solution for a contact form

    Would another obfuscation help here? What if there was a database setting that held the name of the "honeypot" field so that the name could be customized? That way, each store could have a unique input field name and, if the name was discovered and spam began arriving, it could be changed via the admin's console.

 

 
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