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    Default Multiple downloads question

    Hey gang,

    I've been playing around with multiple downloads and understand most all of it and how it would pertain to my site. I would like to know if the following is a custom coding possibility or something that I'm overlooking with it's current form.

    I would like to do the following within attributes:

    I have complete CDs that I would like to sell as

    1 - complete CD shipped
    2 - complete CD downloaded

    BUT, I would still like the downloads to be separate links for each song that the customer CANNOT uncheck. I'm trying to avoid one zip file with all the songs in it due to its size, but if I want to do it with separate file downloads, the customer currently can deselect individual songs - I don't want that. I already sell songs individually, each separate product IDs.

    So in summary, is it possible to have ONE button for download on the site, but have separate download links after checkout? (maybe hiding the checkboxes somehow, but still have them active in the code)

    thanks,
    Jeff Michaels,
    pres of Musical Creations Ltd.

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    Default Re: Multiple downloads question

    Option Name Manager ...

    Option Name: Track 1
    Option Type: Radiobutton
    Sort Order: 10

    Option Name: Track 2
    Option Type: Radiobutton
    Sort Order: 20

    Option Name: Track 3
    Option Type: Radiobutton
    Sort Order: 30

    etc. etc. etc.


    Option Value Manager ...
    Option Name: Track 1
    Option Value: of 1
    Sort Order: 10

    Option Name: Track 1
    Option Value: of 2
    Sort Order: 20

    Option Name: Track 1
    Option Value: of 3
    Sort Order: 30

    Option Name: Track 1
    Option Value: of 4
    Sort Order: 40

    keep making them up to the highest on a CD ...


    Option Name: Track 2
    Option Value: of 2
    Sort Order: 20

    Option Name: Track 2
    Option Value: of 3
    Sort Order: 30

    Option Name: Track 2
    Option Value: of 3
    Sort Order: 30

    Option Name: Track 2
    Option Value: of 4
    Sort Order: 40

    keep making them up to the highest on a CD ...


    Option Name: Track 3
    Option Value: of 3
    Sort Order: 30

    Option Name: Track 3
    Option Value: of 4
    Sort Order: 40

    Option Name: Track 3
    Option Value: of 5
    Sort Order: 50

    Option Name: Track 3
    Option Value: of 6
    Sort Order: 60

    keep making them up to the highest on a CD ...


    Option Name: Track 4
    Option Value: of 4
    Sort Order: 40

    Option Name: Track 4
    Option Value: of 5
    Sort Order: 50

    Option Name: Track 4
    Option Value: of 6
    Sort Order: 60

    keep making them up to the highest on a CD ...


    Option Name: Track 5
    Option Value: of 5
    Sort Order: 50

    Option Name: Track 5
    Option Value: of 6
    Sort Order: 60

    Option Name: Track 5
    Option Value: of 7
    Sort Order: 70

    Option Name: Track 5
    Option Value: of 8
    Sort Order: 80

    keep making them up to the highest on a CD ...


    And keep following the patterns until all are done ...


    Attributes Controller ...

    Add the tracks to each Product ...

    Example: CD with 16 tracks ...

    Option Name: Track 1
    Option Value: of 16
    Filename: something_track1.zip

    Option Name: Track 2
    Option Value: of 16
    Filename: something_track2.zip

    Option Name: Track 3
    Option Value: of 16
    Filename: something_track3.zip

    Option Name: Track 4
    Option Value: of 16
    Filename: something_track4.zip

    Option Name: Track 5
    Option Value: of 16
    Filename: something_track5.zip

    etc. etc. up to Track 16 of 16 ...


    Example: CD with 5 tracks ...

    Option Name: Track 1
    Option Value: of 5
    Filename: something_track1.zip

    Option Name: Track 2
    Option Value: of 5
    Filename: something_track2.zip

    Option Name: Track 3
    Option Value: of 5
    Filename: something_track3.zip

    Option Name: Track 4
    Option Value: of 5
    Filename: something_track4.zip

    Option Name: Track 5
    Option Value: of 5
    Filename: something_track5.zip


    See how that works for you ...


    Where you run into the problem is if you want to offer the CD shipping and download as an either CD by mail or CD by download in the track format ...

    If you want to offer the CD by mail or the CD by download with 1 zip file and allow this to be an either one or the other ... then this can be done easily ...


    Or, if you want to try these as checkboxes ... you have to decide does the customer chose the checkboxes or do you?

    If the customer has to do it, then you have an issue on: will the customer realize it?

    The checkboxes, at this time, do not have any type of test on them for if they are or are not selected ...


    So the question is ...

    Are you trying to offer the Product as:

    1 CD by mail OR CD by download with ALL tracks in individual zips

    2 CD by mail AND CD by download with ALL tracks in individual zips
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    Default Re: Multiple downloads question

    Ajeh,

    Thanks... and 'wow'. Lots of entries, but I only have to do it once to get the look and feel right. I export everything from Filemaker, so all the calcs for each album will happen in that and then imported into Zencart through Navicat.

    It will definitely be CD OR download, not both.

    I'll play around with your samples now and see what comes of it.
    Jeff Michaels,
    pres of Musical Creations Ltd.

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    Default Re: Multiple downloads question

    Ajeh,

    I'm not sure your idea solves my problem.

    I tried it with a 3 song CD and I got 3 radio buttons highlighted. That by itself seemed fine, but when I add the attribute for a CD purchase, how does the customer select between those items in the product info page. I was hoping for 1 CD radio button and 1 download button, BUT the downloads appear at checkout as separate download links, NOT one download link with all the songs zipped.

    Can you explain you thought on this idea you gave me a bit further?

    thanks,
    Jeff Michaels,
    pres of Musical Creations Ltd.

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    Default Re: Multiple downloads question

    That is where the CD by mail -- OR -- CD by download per Track makes a Problem ...

    You can use checkboxes ... however, this does not prevent the customer from picking the CD by mail -- AND -- CD by download per Track ...

    If you want to ensure they get all the Tracks set 1 track per zip, then they need all off them checked ... which a customer will most likely fail to do properly ...

    This is where you run into an issue ...

    Have you considered 2 Products where 1 is the CD for mailing and 1 is the CD Download so that you can use the Radiobutton to force all tracks to be selected?

    Or, make the price in the CD and Tracks with something like:

    Media Method:
    CD by mail ( +$16.00 ) (+2lbs)
    Download Track 1 of 16 ( +$1.00 )
    Download Track 2 of 16 ( +$1.00 )
    Download Track 3 of 16 ( +$1.00 )
    etc. etc.

    Where the Option Name is: Media Method and it is set to the checkbox type ...


    Now, they have to check what they want and at least only get charged for what they manage to check ...


    With some customers, you will sell more with 1 or ALL tracks available or CD by mail -- AND/OR -- Track(s) as customers have the choice of:

    1 CD by Mail

    2 CD by Tracks ... check each one

    3 CD by Mail and CD by Tracks

    4 a few Tracks of the CD
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    Default Re: Multiple downloads question

    Ajeh,

    I may have to rethink my plans for this. One zip file with 15-20 ten MB files just won't work for customers and 2 separate products is another problem for me.

    Thank you so much for your ideas thus far
    Jeff Michaels,
    pres of Musical Creations Ltd.

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    Default Re: Multiple downloads question

    I find the choice of offering on 1 Product the choice of the CD by mail and the download tracks is usually giving the customer the most choices as many want the CD but they also want the downloads ...

    Breaking the pricing up on each of the Attributes with weight on the CD by mail attribute gives the customer the most choices and helps with sales ...

    This gives you more flexibility also with the prices as now you can charge enough for the Track and its bandwidth and enough for the full CD ...
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    Default Re: Multiple downloads question

    I got lost in the middle of this conversation, but I think my question is along the same line, so I'm adding it to this thread.

    I have a book that can be purchased as either an e-book download OR a hard copy.

    I've had a module custom-made to fulfill another part of the sale, and it requires that both of these options (download or hard copy) be attributes of the same product.

    Now I want to add three downloads to the product that the customer gets regardless of which way they receive the book. As I read the instructions for adding multiple downloads, it looks like I need to add attributes to attributes, and I don't think that's possible.

    Can you help me sort out the process so I do it correctly? Thank you!

    The product is at: http://shop.leahcarey.com/index.php?...&products_id=1

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    Default Re: Multiple downloads question

    If you are trying to make it where a Customer orders Product A and gets:

    1 Physical Product in the mail

    2 3 separate downloads in addition to the Physical Product

    Then this can be done ... can you confirm if that is what you want to happen?

    Or, are you trying to make this where they get either:

    1 Product A in the mail

    -- or --

    2 Product A in 3 downloads
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