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    help question Tidying up messy css.

    Hi guys,

    I'm trying to edit my css files so that the side boxes on the left look cleaner or at least allow the writing to fit. unfortunately I have no idea what em means or looks like in terms of size unlike px.

    The site i'm trying to edit is www.modderzwarehouse.com so you can see what the issue is.

    The css is listed below.

    Code:
    body {margin: 0;font-family: verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 62.5%;color: #888787;background: #6a6b6f url(../images/bk.jpg) repeat center top;}
    
    /*bof basic elements*/
    a img {border: none;}
    a:link, #navEZPagesTOC ul li a {color: #444443;text-decoration: none;}
    a:visited {color: #444443;text-decoration: none;}
    a:hover, #navEZPagesTOC ul li a:hover, #navMain ul li a:hover, #navSupp ul li a:hover, #navCatTabs ul li a:hover {color: #dfba68;}
    a:active {color: #444443;}
    h1 {font-size: 1.5em;}
    h2 {font-size: 1.4em;}
    h3 {font-size: 1.3em;}
    h4, h5, h6, LABEL, h4.optionName, LEGEND, ADDRESS, .sideBoxContent, .larger{font-size: 1.1em;}
    .biggerText {font-size: 1.2em;}
    .clearBoth {clear: both;}
    HR {height: 1px;margin-top: 0.5em;border: none;border-bottom: 1px solid #9a9a9a;}
    h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 {margin: 0.3em 3px;}
    
    /*bof form elements*/
    CODE {font-family: arial, verdana, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size: 1em;}
    FORM, SELECT, INPUT {display: inline;font-size: 1em;margin: 0.1em;}
    TEXTAREA {/*float: left;*/margin: auto;display: block;width: 95%;}
    input:focus, select:focus, textarea:focus {background: #fffedf;}
    FIELDSET {padding: 0.5em;margin: 0.5em 0em;border: 1px solid #ccc;}
    LEGEND {font-weight: bold;padding: 0.3em;}
    LABEL, h4.optionName {line-height: 1.5em;padding: 0.2em;}
    LABEL.checkboxLabel, LABEL.radioButtonLabel {margin: 0.5em 0.3em;}
    LABEL.inputLabel {width: 11em;float: left;}
    LABEL.inputLabelPayment {width: 15em;float: left;}
    LABEL.selectLabel, LABEL.switchedLabel, LABEL.uploadsLabel  {width: 12em;float: left;}
    P, ADDRESS {padding: 0.5em;}
    ADDRESS {font-style: normal;}
    
    /*bof warnings, errors, messages*/
    .messageStackWarning, .messageStackError, .messageStackSuccess, .messageStackCaution {line-height: 1.8em;padding: 0.2em;border: 1px solid #000;}
    .messageStackWarning, .messageStackError {background-color: #ff0000;color: #fff;}
    .messageStackSuccess {background-color: #99FF99;color: #000;}
    .messageStackCaution {background-color: #ffff66;color: #000;}
    
    /*bof wrappers - page or section containers*/
    #mainWrapper {background: transparent;text-align: left;width: 950px;vertical-align: top;position:relative; top:0px;}
    #contentMainWrapper {background-color:#fff;}
    #headerWrapper, #contentMainWrapper, #logoWrapper, #cartBoxListWrapper, #ezPageBoxList, #cartBoxListWrapper ul, #ezPageBoxList ul, #mainWrapper, #popupAdditionalImage, 
    
    #popupImage {margin: 0em;padding: 0em;}
    #navColumnOneWrapper, #navColumnTwoWrapper {} 
    #mainWrapper {margin: auto;}
    #logo, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .attribImg {float: left;}
    #tagline {color:#b5b5b6;font-size: 1.65em;text-align :left;vertical-align:bottom;margin-left:10px;margin-bottom:25px;}
    #logo {padding-top:15px;padding-left:15px;}
    #sendSpendWrapper {border: 1px solid #cacaca;float: right;margin: 0em 0em 1em 1em;}
    .floatingBox, #accountLinksWrapper, #sendSpendWrapper, #checkoutShipto, #checkoutBillto, #navEZPagesTOCWrapper {margin: 0;width: 47%;}
    .wrapperAttribsOptions {margin: 0.3em 0em;}
    
    /*bof navigation*/
    .navSplitPagesResult {}
    .navSplitPagesLinks {}
    .navNextPrevCounter {margin: 0em;font-size: 0.9em;}
    .navNextPrevList {display: inline;white-space: nowrap;margin: 0;padding:  0.5em 0em;list-style-type: none;}
    #navCategoryIcon, .buttonRow, #indexProductListCatDescription {margin: 0.5em;}
    #navBreadCrumb {background-color: #fff;margin-top:15px;margin-left:10px;}
    
    /*bof header*/
    #headerWrapper {background-color:#101010;margin-top:0px;}
    #header-curr-lang {float:right;margin-top:50px;color:#b5b5b6;}
    #header-curr-lang img{vertical-align:middle;} 
    #currency_header {float:right;margin-right:35px;margin-top:3px;}
    #lang_header {float:right;margin-right:15px;margin-top:5px;}
    .header-checkout {color:#fffede;font-weight:normal;}
    .header-checkout:hover {color:#dfba68;}
    #navMainWrapper {margin: 0em;font-weight: normal;color: #fffede;background-image:url(../images/top-nav-bk.jpg);height: 54px;width: 950px;}
    #navMain ul  {margin: 0;padding:  0.5em 0em;list-style-type: none;text-align: center;line-height: 1.5em;margin-left:15px;margin-top:7px;font-size:130%;}
    #navMain ul li {display: inline;}
    #navMain ul li a {text-decoration: none;padding: 0em 0.5em;margin: 0;color: #fffede;white-space: nowrap;}
    #navMain ul li a:hover{color:#dfba68;} 
    #navCatTabsWrapper {margin: 0em;background-color: #fff;font-weight: bold;color: #181818;height: 1%;width: 100%;display:none;}
    #navCatTabs ul  {margin: 0;padding:  0.5em 0em;list-style-type: none;text-align: center;line-height: 1.5em;}
    #navCatTabs ul li {display: inline;}
    #navCatTabs ul li a {text-decoration: none;padding: 0em 0.5em;margin: 0;color: #181818;white-space: nowrap;}
    #navEZPagesTop {background-color: #fff;display:none;}
    #navEZPagesTop {font-size: 0.95em;font-weight: bold;margin: 0em;padding: 0.5em;color:#181818;}
    #navEZPagesTop a{color:#181818;}
    #navEZPagesTop a:hover {color:#67cadf;}
    #navMainSearch {float: right;padding-top:15px;margin-right:20px;}
    #navMainSearch input[type=image]{margin-top:-10px;vertical-align:bottom;}
    .search-header-button {vertical-align:middle;}
    .search-header-box {border:1px solid #000;width:100px;height:18px;-moz-border-radius: 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px; border-radius: 4px;}
    .cart-image {vertical-align:middle;}
    
    /*bof ezpages*/
    #navEZPagesTOCWrapper {font-weight: bold;float: right;height: 1%;border: 1px solid #000;}
    #navEZPagesTOC ul {margin: 0;padding:  0.5em 0em;list-style-type: none;	line-height: 1.5em;}
    #navEZPagesTOC ul li {white-space: nowrap;}
    #navEZPagesTOC ul li a {padding: 0em 0.5em;margin: 0;}
    
    /*bof the main content classes*/
    #contentColumnMain, #navColumnOne, #navColumnTwo, .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, 
    
    .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .centerBoxContentsFeatured, .centerBoxContentsNew, .alert {vertical-align: top;}
    /*.content,*/ #productDescription, .shippingEstimatorWrapper {/*font-size: 1.2em;*/padding: 0.5em;}
    .alert {color: #ff0001;margin-left: 0.5em;}
    .advisory {}
    .important {font-weight: bold;}
    .notice {}
    .rating{}
    .gvBal {float: right;}
    .centerColumn, #bannerOne, #bannerTwo,  #bannerThree,  #bannerFour,  #bannerFive,  #bannerSix {padding: 0.8em;}
    .smallText, #siteinfoLegal, #siteinfoCredits, #siteinfoStatus, #siteinfoIP {font-size: 0.9em;}
    
    /*bof shopping cart display*/
    #cartContentsDisplay {border-left:1px solid #dfdfe7;border-right:1px solid #dfdfe7;border-top:0px solid #dfdfe7;}
    #cartContentsDisplay td{border-bottom:1px dashed #ccc;padding-top:15px;}
    .cartQuantity input{margin-left:15px;}
    .rowOdd {background-color: #fff;height: 1.5em;vertical-align: top;}
    .rowEven {background-color: #fff;height: 1.5em;vertical-align: top;}
    .tableHeading TH {background-color:#101010;height:30px;color:#fffedf;}
    .cartTableHeading{background-color:#101010;height:30px;color:#fffedf;}
    .tableHeading, #cartSubTotal {background-color: #101010;height:30px;color:#fffedf;}
    #cartSubTotal {font-weight: bold;text-align: right;line-height: 2.2em;padding-right: 2.5em;}
    .tableRow, .tableHeading, #cartSubTotal {height: 2.2em;}
    .cartProductDisplay, .cartUnitDisplay, .cartTotalDisplay, .cartRemoveItemDisplay, .cartQuantityUpdate, .cartQuantity, #cartInstructionsDisplay, .cartTotalsDisplay   
    
    {padding: 0.5em 0em;}
    .cartUnitDisplay, .cartTotalDisplay {text-align: right;padding-right: 0.2em;}
    #scUpdateQuantity {width: 2em;}
    .cartQuantity {width: 4.7em;}
    .cartNewItem {color: #444443;position: relative;  /*do not remove-fixes stupid IEbug*/}
    .cartOldItem {color: #444443;position: relative;   /*do not remove-fixes stupid IEbug*/}
    .cartBoxTotal {text-align: right;font-weight: bold;}
    .cartRemoveItemDisplay {width: 3.5em;}
    .cartAttribsList {margin-left: 1em;}
    #mediaManager {width: 50%;margin: 0.2em;padding: 0.5em;}
    .mediaTitle {float: left;}
    .mediaTypeLink {float: right;}
    .normalprice, .productSpecialPriceSale {text-decoration: line-through;}
    .productSpecialPrice, .productSalePrice, .productSpecialPriceSale, .productPriceDiscount {color: #ff0001;}
    .orderHistList {margin: 1em;padding: 0.2em 0em;} 
    #cartBoxListWrapper ul, #ezPageBoxList ul {list-style-type: none;}
    #cartBoxListWrapper li, #ezPageBoxList li, .cartBoxTotal {margin: 0;padding: 0.2em 0em;} 
    #cartBoxEmpty, #cartBoxVoucherBalance {font-weight: bold;}
    .totalBox {width: 5.5em;text-align: right;padding: 0.2em;}
    .lineTitle, .amount {text-align: right;padding: 0.2em;}
    .amount {width: 5.5em;}
    
    /*bof image display*/
    #productMainImage, #reviewsInfoDefaultProductImage, #productReviewsDefaultProductImage, #reviewWriteMainImage {margin: 0em 1em 1em 0em;}
    .categoryIcon {}
    #cartImage {margin: 0.5em 1em;}
    
    /*bof attributes*/
    .attribImg {width: 20%;margin: 0.3em 0em;}
    .attributesComments {}
    
    /*bof list box contents*/
    .centerBoxContents, .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, 
    
    .centerBoxContentsFeatured, .centerBoxContentsNew {margin: 1em 0em;}
    
    /*bof sideboxes*/
    #navColumnOne {background-color: #fff;padding-bottom:20px;}
    #navColumnTwo {background-color: #fff;padding-right:10px;}
    .columnLeft {}
    h3.leftBoxHeading, h3.rightBoxHeading {font-size: 1.3em;color: #fffede;/*padding-top:15px;*/font-weight:normal;}
    h3.leftBoxHeading a, h3.rightBoxHeading a{font-size: 1.0em;color: #fffede;}
    .leftBoxHeading, .rightBoxHeading {margin: 0em;background-image: url(../images/sidebox-header.jpg);background-repeat:no-repeat;padding: 0.5em 20em;color:#fffede;}
    .centerBoxHeading{/*background-image: url(../images/center-bk.jpg);background-repeat:no-repeat;*/color:#5a2e2e;font-weight:bold;padding: 0.5em 0.2em;padding-
    
    left:15px;margin-bottom:0px;border-bottom:2px dotted #b5b5b5;font-size:150%;}
    
    .centerBoxWrapperContents{border:0px solid #b5b5b5;padding-top:0px;}
    #musicgenresHeading, #recordcompaniesHeading, #searchHeading, #manufacturersHeading, #currenciesHeading{padding-top:0px;}
    .leftBoxContainer, .rightBoxContainer {border: 1px solid #fff;margin-top: 1.5em;margin-left:3px;}
    .sideBoxContent {background-color: #fff;padding: 0.4em;padding-top:0px;border:0px solid #e1e1e9;border-left:1px solid #b5b5b5;border-right:1px solid #b5b5b5;border-
    
    bottom:1px solid #b5b5b5;padding-top:10px;}
    h3.leftBoxHeading a:hover, h3.rightBoxHeading a:hover {color: #444443;text-decoration: none;} 
    /*.rightBoxContent {background-color: #fff;margin-bottom: 1em;}*/
    #catBoxDivider {display:none;}
    #whatsnew, #featured, #specials {font-size:100%;font-weight:normal;color:#444443;}
    #whatsnew a, #featured a, #specials a{font-size:100%;font-weight:normal;color:#444443;}
    #specialsHeading a, #whatsnewHeading a, #featuredHeading a {color:#fffede;}
    #specialsHeading a:hover, #whatsnewHeading a:hover, #featuredHeading a:hover {color:#e2efd0;}
    #shoppingcartHeading {font-size:1.1em;}
    .centeredContent, TH, #cartEmptyText, #cartBoxGVButton, #cartBoxEmpty, #cartBoxVoucherBalance, #navCatTabsWrapper, #navEZPageNextPrev, #bannerOne, #bannerTwo,  
    
    #bannerThree,  #bannerFour,  #bannerFive,  #bannerSix, #siteinfoCredits, #siteinfoStatus, #siteinfoIP, .center, .cartRemoveItemDisplay, .cartQuantityUpdate, 
    
    .cartQuantity, .cartTotalsDisplay, #cartBoxGVBalance, .leftBoxHeading, .rightBoxHeading, .productListing-data, .accountQuantityDisplay, .ratingRow, 
    
    LABEL#textAreaReviews, #productMainImage, #reviewsInfoDefaultProductImage, #productReviewsDefaultProductImage, #reviewWriteMainImage, .centerBoxContents, 
    
    .specialsListBoxContents, .categoryListBoxContents, .additionalImages, .centerBoxContentsSpecials, .centerBoxContentsAlsoPurch, .centerBoxContentsFeatured, 
    
    .centerBoxContentsNew, .gvBal, .attribImg {text-align: center;}
    #bestsellers .wrapper {margin: 0em 0em 0em 1.5em;}
    #bestsellers ol {padding: 0;margin-left: 1.1em;}
    #bestsellers li {padding: 0;margin: 0.3em 0em 0.3em 0em;}
    #bannerboxHeading {background-color: #fff;}
    #upProductsHeading {text-align: left;}
    #upDateHeading {text-align: right;}
    
    /*bof misc*/
    .back {float: left;}
    .forward, #shoppingCartDefault #PPECbutton {float: right;}
    .bold {font-weight: bold;}
    .hiddenField {display: none;}
    .visibleField {display: inline;}
    CAPTION {/*display: none;*/}
    #myAccountGen li, #myAccountNotify li {margin: 0;} 
    .accountTotalDisplay, .accountTaxDisplay {width: 20%;text-align: right;/*vertical-align: top*/}
    .accountQuantityDisplay {width: 10%;vertical-align: top;}
    TR.tableHeading {background-color: #cacaca;height: 2em;}
    #siteMapList {width: 90%;float: right;}
    .ratingRow {margin: 1em 0em 1.5em 0em;}
    LABEL#textAreaReviews {font-weight: normal;margin: 1em 0em;}
    #popupShippingEstimator, #popupSearchHelp, #popupAdditionalImage, #popupImage, #popupCVVHelp, #popupCouponHelp, #popupAtrribsQuantityPricesHelp, #infoShoppingCart 
    
    {background-color: #fff;}
    .information {padding: 10px 3px; line-height: 150%;}
    #shoppingcartBody #shippingEstimatorContent {clear: both;}
    .seDisplayedAddressLabel {background-color:#e2efd1;text-align: center;}
    .seDisplayedAddressInfo {text-transform: uppercase;text-align: center;font-weight: bold;}
    #seShipTo {padding: 0.2em;}
    
    /*bof center boxes*/
    .product_title {font-size:110%;font-weight:bold;}
    .product_title a{color:#918f8f;}
    .product_title a:hover{color:#dfba68;} 
    .product_detail {margin-top:10px;}
    .price {font-size:110%;font-weight:bold;color:#000;}
    .normalprice {font-size:90%;}
    .productSpecialPrice {font-size:90%;}
    
    /*bof easy slider*/
    #slider{margin:0 auto;}
    #slider ul, #slider li,	#slider2 ul, #slider2 li{margin:0;padding:0;list-style:none;}
    #slider2{margin-top:1em;}
    #slider li, #slider2 li{/*define width and height of list item (slide) entire slider area will adjust according to the parameters provided here	
    
    */width:550px;height:302px;overflow:hidden;}	
    #slider{margin:0 auto;}
    /*bof easy slider numeric controls*/	
    #control_div{width:200px;height:18px;position:relative;left:380px;top:0px;margin-bottom:10px;}
    ol#controls{margin:1em 0;padding:0;height:18px;}
    ol#controls li{margin:0 10px 0 0;padding:0;float:left;list-style:none;height:18px;line-height:18px;}
    ol#controls li a{float:left;height:18px;line-height:18px;border:1px solid #ccc;background:#101010;color:#fffedf;padding:0 10px;text-decoration:none;}
    ol#controls li.current a{background:#dfba69;color:#444;}
    ol#controls li a:focus, #prevBtn a:focus, #nextBtn a:focus{outline:none;}
    
    #home-images{margin-top:25px;}
    #home-text{font-size:120%;width:550px;}
    .promote{margin-left:70px;}
    
    /*bof product listing*/
    .listingDescription {text-align:left;}
    .productListing-even {border:1px dashed #ccc;}
    .productListing-rowheading {color:#fffedf;background-color:#444;height:30px;}
    .productListing-rowheading a{color:#fffede;}
    .productListing-rowheading a:hover{color:#dfba68;}
    #productsListingTopNumber {margin-top:15px;margin-bottom:15px;}
    #productsListingBottomNumber {margin-top:15px;margin-bottom:15px;}
    #productListHeading {margin-bottom:15px;color:#5a2e2e;}
    .tabTable {border-left:1px solid #dfdfe7;border-right:1px solid #dfdfe7;}
    .productListing-data {border-bottom:1px dashed #ccc;}
    
    /*bof product info*/
    #cartAdd {text-align: center;margin: 0em;border: 0px solid #000;padding: 0em;}
    #product-divider {border-bottom:1px dashed #ccc;margin-top:20px;}
    .navNextPrevWrapper {text-align:center;}
    .navNextPrevCounter {text-align:center;}
    #productDescription {color:#444;}
    #productName {color:#444;font-weight:normal;font-size:2.0em;}
    #productDetailsList {color:#444;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;}
    #productAttributes {}
    #attribsOptionsText {font-weight:normal;color:#444;}
    .optionName {color:#444;margin-top:0px;} 
    #alsoPurchased {margin-top:20px;}
    #productPrices{text-align:center;}
    #p-left{float:left;}
    #p-right{float:left;}
    #cart{border:1px solid #e1e1e9;width:100%;padding:20px;background:#f5f5f7;-moz-border-radius: 4px; -webkit-border-radius: 4px; border-radius: 4px;}
    
    
    /*bof monthly boxes*/
    .box_image {margin-top:15px;margin-bottom:15px;}
    
    /*bof turn off breadcrumbs on home page*/
    body#indexHomeBody #navBreadCrumb{display:none;}
    if anyone can help me make this look right that would be most appreciated. my ideal width would be around 300px i think. I'm aware that i may need to change the image sizes that's not an issue.

    Thanks in advance

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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    Quote Originally Posted by vvomble View Post
    Hi guys,

    I'm trying to edit my css files so that the side boxes on the left look cleaner or at least allow the writing to fit. unfortunately I have no idea what em means or looks like in terms of size unlike px.
    "EM" and "EN" are printers' terminology and relate to the width of the letter " M " (em), and " N " (en).

    The widths are therefore RELATIVE to the size of the font.

    The advantage of using these is that widths and sizes SCALE with an increase or decrease in the governing (parent) font size, thus retaining visual integrity if the font is made bigger or smaller - whereas PX is FIXED.

    There is no rule that says you can't change your size parameters from EM to PX if you want to. I do it often.
    20 years a Zencart User

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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    right so which bit do i need to edit to get it to fit?

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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    You don't edit the CSS.

    ADMIN CONSOLE >>> CONFIGURATION >>> LAYOUT SETTINGS...

    Column Width - Left Boxes (set the desired width in PX)
    ... and a bit further down...
    Column Width - Left (set the desired width in PX - I usually keep it the same as the Left Boxes)
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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    Bad idea to use uppercase wording on a website - google regards this as "shouting" and severely penalises you for seo...
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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    Use firefox browser, then go get the FIREBUG plugin. This enables offline page analysis, so you can then easily identify the components of a page and test out CSS (and other) changes, before committing these changes to a live site.
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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    Your HEADER is also ridiculously BIG... It uses up important "above-the-fold" space that is better served showcasing PRODUCT.

    Nobody cares how "proud" you are of your massive logo ( or ego ) so reduce it by at least 80% and give the space over to product pictures and descriptions.
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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    AMAZON'S site logo is just 30 pixels tall...
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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    If you don't want a RIGHT COLUMN, switch it OFF in Admin Console...

    ADMIN CONSOLE >>> CONFIGURATION >>> LAYOUT SETTINGS...
    Column Right Status - Global = set to ZERO
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    Default Re: Tidying up messy css.

    stylesheet_betterCategoriesEzInfo.css, around line 12:
    Code:
    .betterCategories a, .betterCategories a:visited,
    .betterDocuments a, .betterDocuments a:visited,
    .betterEzpages a, .betterEzpages a:visited,
    .betterInformation a, .betterInformation a:visited,
    .betterMoreinformation a, .betterMoreinformation a:visited,
    .betterBestsellers a, .betterBestsellers a:visited {
    	display: block;
    	background-color: #fffffe;
    	border-top: 2px solid #ffffff;
    border-bottom:2px dotted #b5b5b5;
    	padding: 4px;
    	font-size: 0.9em;
    
    }
    Add the line in red, and adjust to taste.


    I think this is the wrong issue to solve, however; making the text smaller makes it harder to read. You do not appear to be using the right sideboxes at all, and if you turn off the right sidebar, you can make the left sidebar wider without sacrificing font size or main content area.
    Admin > Configuration > Layout Settings >
    Column Right Status - Global
    Column Left Width
    Column Left Boxes Width.

 

 
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