beginner text edit question

[mc12345678]

Hello, my reply to this yesterday seemed to have failed....
No, no backups made so far, I am such a newby I'm still looking for the gearshift!, so I thought to load up a trial new template to replace the default one I seem to have lost. here's the result:

When I am in Admin control panel>tools>template selection>templates installed>classic contemporary green>preview
it opens a page properly
control panel>tools>template selection>twist of nature>preview
I get this:
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /zencart/includes/images/scr_nature.jpg on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

In cPanel here's the directory where I placed the new template according to it’s instructions:
public_html/zencart/includes/templates/Twist of Nature/twist_of_nature

In cPanel I see also this:
public_html/zencart/includes/templates/images/scr_nature.jpg (permission 0755)

Is this enough to go on to help me get started again? thanks!

The preview function in Admin - Tools - Template Selection only displays an image of the template, not your site using it, so it's pretty much worthless and I wouldn't worry about it.

Remove that Dreamweaver text and see if your pages come back.

Isn't the template in the wrong directory? Shouldn't it be installed in:
public_html/zencart/includes/templates/twist_of_nature?

[MnDel]

Isn't the template in the wrong directory? Shouldn't it be installed in:
public_html/zencart/includes/templates/twist_of_nature?

I wondered at that since there are 2 folders titled 'twist of nature' , one upper case, one lower case
again, here is what exists presently

public_html/zencart/includes/templates/Twist of Nature/twist_of_nature

So do you mean the lower case folder should sit next to the upper case folder - both together under /templates/?

[MnDel]

The preview function in Admin - Tools - Template Selection only displays an image of the template, not your site using it, so it's pretty much worthless and I wouldn't worry about it.

Remove that Dreamweaver text and see if your pages come back.

I referred to the preview button because the new template showed no where else, I took the advice, went back into Dreamweaver, removed the text I had added, and a different errror shows up now, of course I have no idea what it means by 'line 7' for:
http://pinewoodforge.com/zencart/index.php?main_page=

Warning: require(DIR_WS_INCLUDESapplication_bottom.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/pinewood/public_html/zencart/index.php on line 7

thanks

[mc12345678]

I wondered at that since there are 2 folders titled 'twist of nature' , one upper case, one lower case
again, here is what exists presently

public_html/zencart/includes/templates/Twist of Nature/twist_of_nature

So do you mean the lower case folder should sit next to the upper case folder - both together under /templates/?

I don't think the capitalized version is even necessary. Just the underlined version underneath the includes/templates directory.

[stevesh]

Like most mods (and other zipped programs) the mod files are contained inside a preliminary folder, in this case Twist Of Nature. You want to upload the twist_of_nature folder into includes/templates.

[MnDel]

Thanks, so far so good, what was confusing was that also inside the Twist Of Nature folder was 'header.psd', so I moved it too. Anyway, I now show 'twist of nature' to be default template in tools>template selection page, however, when I open 'online catalog' where the other one was that I lost, i still get an error message......
but progress is being made! thanks

[MnDel]

You're looking at the admin (/YOUR_ADMIN/includes/languages/english/index.php) version of the file which, as you've noted, is totally different.

You should look to /includes/languages/english/YOUR_TEMPLATE/index.php and, if that file's not yet present, copy /includes/languages/english/index.php and make your edits in the template-override directory.

If you haven't chosen a template yet, I'd suggest that you do that first (it'll be a lot easier). Look in the Plugins area for "Templates"; there are a bunch of very nice ones that you can adapt to your needs.

Now that I at last have a new template showing up in control panel>tools>template selection as default, I looked where in you said
/includes/languages/english/YOUR_TEMPLATE/
but it is not there, so then i looked for a long time in both cPanel and admin control panel for the 'template-override directory' you mentioned to fix this - but can't seem to find such, can you please give directions to it?
thanks!

[mc12345678]

Now that I at last have a new template showing up in control panel>tools>template selection as default, I looked where in you said
/includes/languages/english/YOUR_TEMPLATE/
but it is not there, so then i looked for a long time in both cPanel and admin control panel for the 'template-override directory' you mentioned to fix this - but can't seem to find such, can you please give directions to it?
thanks!

You understand that /includes/languages/english/YOUR_TEMPLATE/index.php means that with twist_of_nature being your current template that you should be looking in or for: includes/languages/english/twist_of_nature/index.php correct?

If that directory does not exist, then create a sub-directory of twist_of_nature under includes/languages/english and then copy the index.php from includes/languages/english to includes/languages/english/twist_of_nature.

This is basically your first lesson in the template override system. The idea is that you always leave the default or original programming the way it was, and that you instead copy it over to your template and then make changes to it there. For files/directories that are recognized by Zen Cart as being overrideable will be loaded at least first before loading one of the default files, and in most cases will be loaded instead of the original/default files. (If not mistaken files in the languages directory work like first described, the override file is loaded and then the original file is loaded...)

That help you through your situation?

[MnDel]

You understand that /includes/languages/english/YOUR_TEMPLATE/index.php means that with twist_of_nature being your current template that you should be looking in or for: includes/languages/english/twist_of_nature/index.php correct?

If that directory does not exist, then create a sub-directory of twist_of_nature under includes/languages/english and then copy the index.php from includes/languages/english to includes/languages/english/twist_of_nature.

This is basically your first lesson in the template override system. The idea is that you always leave the default or original programming the way it was, and that you instead copy it over to your template and then make changes to it there. For files/directories that are recognized by Zen Cart as being overrideable will be loaded at least first before loading one of the default files, and in most cases will be loaded instead of the original/default files. (If not mistaken files in the languages directory work like first described, the override file is loaded and then the original file is loaded...)

That help you through your situation?

There was no folder titled /twist_of_nature/ where you said it should be, you said to add a subdirectory, I saw no such word, but saw I can add a folder there so I did that and named it 'twist_of_nature', then managed, to copy the file /index.php into it.
I have no idea if this is to fix my most basic problem of getting a front page back, but when I clicked on 'online catalog' in my admin panel it still shows only the errors as before:

Warning: require(DIR_WS_INCLUDESapplication_bottom.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/pinewood/public_html/zencart/index.php on line 7

Warning: require(DIR_WS_INCLUDESapplication_bottom.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/pinewood/public_html/zencart/index.php on line 7

Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'DIR_WS_INCLUDESapplication_bottom.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/pinewood/public_html/zencart/index.php on line 7

thanks for sticking with me!

[mc12345678]

There was no folder titled /twist_of_nature/ where you said it should be, you said to add a subdirectory, I saw no such word, but saw I can add a folder there so I did that and named it 'twist_of_nature', then managed, to copy the file /index.php into it.
I have no idea if this is to fix my most basic problem of getting a front page back, but when I clicked on 'online catalog' in my admin panel it still shows only the errors as before:

Warning: require(DIR_WS_INCLUDESapplication_bottom.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/pinewood/public_html/zencart/index.php on line 7

Warning: require(DIR_WS_INCLUDESapplication_bottom.php) [function.require]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /home/pinewood/public_html/zencart/index.php on line 7

Fatal error: require() [function.require]: Failed opening required 'DIR_WS_INCLUDESapplication_bottom.php' (include_path='.:/usr/lib/php:/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/pinewood/public_html/zencart/index.php on line 7

thanks for sticking with me!

Huh, guess I didn't realize that was the real issue. If you look in the file:
Includes/configure.php
Is there a line that reads something like:
Define('DIR_WS_INCLUDES','includes/');
?
I may have some of the content wrong, but it looks like there is either a missing define, or in the file /home/pinewood/public_html/zencart/index.php on line 7 something is typed wrong.

One place to look at what is expected to be in the configure.php file is a few of the FAQ's on configure.php:
http://www.zen-cart.com/content.php?...ents-explained
http://www.zen-cart.com/content.php?...figurephp-file

For a few.