Free Shipping Behavior

[Luke Galyan]

I may have gotten confusing since I was trying to do things with my phone which is a pain due to the little screen and the lack of ability to have two windows open at the same time. I apologize for the lack of clarity.

at Frank18
My settings for FREE SHIPPING! are:
Enabled set to True
FreeShipping Cost 0.00
Handling Fee 0.00
Tax Class 11010
Ship Zone none
SortOrder 0

My settings for Free Shipping Options are:
Offer per Freeoptions True
Shipping 0.00
Handling fee 0
criteria sections left blank except for Weight <=
Weight <= 0
Tax Class none (should this be set to the same tax class as FREESHIPPING!?)
Tax Basis shipping
Shipping Zone none
Sort order 0

at Lat9
My downloadable products are set with
Product is Virtual No, Shipping Address required

at Ajeh
I am using USPS for shipping, and it is working just fine.
I am using both the FREE SHIPPING! module and the Free Shipping Options Module, see settings above.
When setting this all up a while back I think I read somewhere or got some weird idea in my head that these two work together to do what I need? I should be using both of these correct?

I am still curious if the Free Shipping Options criteria work as AND logic or as OR logic?

Also still curious about the setting on the product page what the setting Always Free Shipping set to Special, Product/Download Combo...... is for?

Luke

[Ajeh]

My question is "why are you using Free Shipping Options freeoptions?" as it really makes no sense to use that unless you need it for something ...

On the Free Shipping Options freeoptions it uses:

// final check for display of Free Options
      if ($this->ck_freeoptions_total or $this->ck_freeoptions_weight or $this->ck_freeoptions_items) {

Unless you have a purpose for Free Shipping Options freeoptions ... you should uninstall it and just use USPS and FREE SHIPPER! freeshipper ...

[Luke Galyan]

At the moment all I have for free shipping is the downloadable products. That will change soon but to keep on topic lets stay with downloadables being my only free shipping need.

When you say FREE SHIPPER!, is that different than FREE SHIPPING! Before I get confused I would like to be sure we are talking about the same thing.

I was under the impression that the FREE SHIPPING! module simply said I will allow free shipping in some case. Then Free Shipping Options module was used to determine when the free shipping would be applied. Thus my question / comment about these working together?

If only FREE SHIPPING! module is used and I remove the Free Shipping Options module how does FREE SHIPPING decide when its free or when its not free to ship?

Or is FREE SHIPPER that you refer to something all together different?

Thanks for posting that code snippet. That answers the question about the logic used in Free Shipping Options, it is OR logic.

Luke

[Ajeh]

The difference between FREE SHIPPING! and FREE SHIPPER! is I made a typo ...

You need the FREE SHIPPING! freeshipper shipping module installed for any other types of Free Shipping Products *except* Downloads ... such as Products with 0 Weight or Products marked as Always Free Shipping ...

I usually recommend it for people to ensure that they have a shipping method in that case ...

A Product with an Attribute with a download filename on it already knows that it is Free Shipping based on that download filename on the Attribute ...

So you should be fine with just USPS and FREE SHIPPING! freeshipper or just USPS installed ...

If the Order has only Download Products in it, the checkout skips the checkout_shipping page and goes directly to the checkout_payment page ...

If the Order has both a Product with a download and a normal Product with weight, then it will go to the checkout_shipping page and only have shipping charges for the Product with weight ...

[Luke Galyan]

Thanks. I did not know it would work that way for downloads.

So moving on...... I do plan to offer free shipping on orders over a specified dollar amount. I assume this is where the Free Shipping Options comes in. Correct?

Thanks for taking to the time to make this clear. :)

[frank18]

Thanks. I did not know it would work that way for downloads.

So moving on...... I do plan to offer free shipping on orders over a specified dollar amount. I assume this is where the Free Shipping Options comes in. Correct?

Thanks for taking to the time to make this clear. :)

You would set that in Admin > Modules > Order Total > Shipping

Example:

Order Shipping Cost
This module is installed
true

Sort Order
200

Allow Free Shipping
true

Free Shipping For Orders Over
$150.00

Provide Free Shipping For Orders Made
national

[Luke Galyan]

Thanks I will try it that way. Does seem a bit simpler.

So if the Modules>OrderTotal>Shipping settings can set orders over say 150$ to ship as free,
then what is the Modules>Shipping>Free Shipping Options> Total>= for?

If I set the Modules>OrderTotal>Shipping to ship free for orders over 150$
OR
If I set the Modules>Shipping>Free Shipping Options> Total>= to 150$
What is the difference? They do accomplish the same thing right?

Thanks you for letting me know a simpler way to set up what I need. I also seek an understanding of why I would choose one over the other?

Luke

[frank18]

My question is "why are you using Free Shipping Options freeoptions?" as it really makes no sense to use that unless you need it for something ...

Unless you have a purpose for Free Shipping Options freeoptions ... you should uninstall it and just use USPS and FREE SHIPPER! freeshipper ...

Yep, thanks Ajeh, that was the reason why I did ask for that in first place - makes no sense to use it in the op's case, just confuses the issue.