Free Shipping Behavior

[Luke Galyan]

At the moment all I have for free shipping is the downloadable products. That will change soon but to keep on topic lets stay with downloadables being my only free shipping need.

When you say FREE SHIPPER!, is that different than FREE SHIPPING! Before I get confused I would like to be sure we are talking about the same thing.

I was under the impression that the FREE SHIPPING! module simply said I will allow free shipping in some case. Then Free Shipping Options module was used to determine when the free shipping would be applied. Thus my question / comment about these working together?

If only FREE SHIPPING! module is used and I remove the Free Shipping Options module how does FREE SHIPPING decide when its free or when its not free to ship?

Or is FREE SHIPPER that you refer to something all together different?

Thanks for posting that code snippet. That answers the question about the logic used in Free Shipping Options, it is OR logic.

Luke

[Ajeh]

The difference between FREE SHIPPING! and FREE SHIPPER! is I made a typo ...

You need the FREE SHIPPING! freeshipper shipping module installed for any other types of Free Shipping Products *except* Downloads ... such as Products with 0 Weight or Products marked as Always Free Shipping ...

I usually recommend it for people to ensure that they have a shipping method in that case ...

A Product with an Attribute with a download filename on it already knows that it is Free Shipping based on that download filename on the Attribute ...

So you should be fine with just USPS and FREE SHIPPING! freeshipper or just USPS installed ...

If the Order has only Download Products in it, the checkout skips the checkout_shipping page and goes directly to the checkout_payment page ...

If the Order has both a Product with a download and a normal Product with weight, then it will go to the checkout_shipping page and only have shipping charges for the Product with weight ...

[Luke Galyan]

Thanks. I did not know it would work that way for downloads.

So moving on...... I do plan to offer free shipping on orders over a specified dollar amount. I assume this is where the Free Shipping Options comes in. Correct?

Thanks for taking to the time to make this clear. :)

[frank18]

Thanks. I did not know it would work that way for downloads.

So moving on...... I do plan to offer free shipping on orders over a specified dollar amount. I assume this is where the Free Shipping Options comes in. Correct?

Thanks for taking to the time to make this clear. :)

You would set that in Admin > Modules > Order Total > Shipping

Example:

Order Shipping Cost
This module is installed
true

Sort Order
200

Allow Free Shipping
true

Free Shipping For Orders Over
$150.00

Provide Free Shipping For Orders Made
national

[Luke Galyan]

Thanks I will try it that way. Does seem a bit simpler.

So if the Modules>OrderTotal>Shipping settings can set orders over say 150$ to ship as free,
then what is the Modules>Shipping>Free Shipping Options> Total>= for?

If I set the Modules>OrderTotal>Shipping to ship free for orders over 150$
OR
If I set the Modules>Shipping>Free Shipping Options> Total>= to 150$
What is the difference? They do accomplish the same thing right?

Thanks you for letting me know a simpler way to set up what I need. I also seek an understanding of why I would choose one over the other?

Luke

[Ajeh]

Free Shipping controlled by the Modules ... Order Total ... Shipping ot_shipping uses its own method to control free shipping that is not any of the shipping modules and is based on the Total set in the settings and whether you set in the settings for:
National
International
Both

[Luke Galyan]

Yup I get that. So that covers what the settings you recommend are doing. I can easily set the settings that way and make this happen. And actually have now and it works. Thank you. With that, I can consider this thread now Partially answered.

I would like an understanding of WHY though. I am appreciative of people like you guys who can help others find and execute the correct settings for their store. Huge help! However if I do not understand WHY I am choosing one method over the other it leaves me feeling dependent on the forums each time I want to make a change. If I my store / business situation should change over time it would be nice to understand what the other method of free shipping can do for me. This makes me a little more capable of making the proper decisions later. And seeing it spelled out a bit in this thread may help others searching for the same thing.

Doesn't the Modules>Shipping>Free Shipping Options accomplish exactly the same thing if I set up the Total >= field accordingly?

If the answer is no, what is the difference then?
If the answer is yes, why would I choose one way of doing this over the other?

If the answer is too complicated and can not by explained easily don't worry about trying. I have my settings good to go now thanks to help from you guys. If however it can be broken down as to why I would use one method over the other I would love to hear about it.

Luke