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    ok i do that

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    Thank you for contacting Midphase Technical Support! Yes we do have the PHP module zend_guard_loader enabled on our shared hosting server. We are not able to disable it though because this is a server wide module used by many other clients that you share this server with. If we disable this for you it is disabled for all clients on this server.

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    seems that they can't or won't do something

    is there something to do in the zencart ?
    or better to move to other host?

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    They keep by what they say the fault is in the scripting

    I am sorry about the issues you are having but this is not a server issue. We provided you all the information that we could about the problems you are having. There errors I have provided you in my previous response are caused by scripting issues which is not something that our Tech Support team helps correct.

    Here are the errors that I have given you before:

    [Fri Nov 13 02:02:23 2015] [error] [client 69.36.160.253] Failed loading
    /usr/local/Zend/lib/Guard-7.0.0/php-5.6.x/ZendGuardLoader.so:
    /usr/local/Zend/lib/Guard-7.0.0/php-5.6.x/ZendGuardLoader.so: cannot open shared object
    file: No such file or directory


    Really strange that before they go to the new php there where no problems and now there are

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaWilma Hissink View Post
    They keep by what they say the fault is in the scripting

    I am sorry about the issues you are having but this is not a server issue. We provided you all the information that we could about the problems you are having. There errors I have provided you in my previous response are caused by scripting issues which is not something that our Tech Support team helps correct.

    Here are the errors that I have given you before:

    [Fri Nov 13 02:02:23 2015] [error] [client 69.36.160.253] Failed loading
    /usr/local/Zend/lib/Guard-7.0.0/php-5.6.x/ZendGuardLoader.so:
    /usr/local/Zend/lib/Guard-7.0.0/php-5.6.x/ZendGuardLoader.so: cannot open shared object
    file: No such file or directory


    Really strange that before they go to the new php there where no problems and now there are
    Thanks for the update. I thought that was the case.... looks like they still have a bit to learn such as providing cPanels which are not skimmed down to the barest.

    I would change to a host who understands ZenCart (and other systems for that matter). This link will give you a lead: https://www.zen-cart.com/content.php...ended-services - there is a good host in the UK, can't mention any names here as we are not allowed to advertise. FYG, I am not affiliated with any of those listed.

    Please keep us updated.

    Cheers / Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaWilma Hissink View Post
    Thank you for contacting Midphase Technical Support! Yes we do have the PHP module zend_guard_loader enabled on our shared hosting server. We are not able to disable it though because this is a server wide module used by many other clients that you share this server with. If we disable this for you it is disabled for all clients on this server.
    Please inform your host that you don't want them to disable it for you.

    What you *want* them to do is *fix* their currently broken installation of it.

    If they can't fix it THEN they should perhaps consider disabling it.

    Here's the deal, to the best of my knowledge, neither ZenCart or any of its publically available modules need or use Zend (some commercial modules do though), so if we assume that you aren't using any modules that need Zend, then whether Zend is installed by the host or not is a moot point.

    If it is installed and working, it just isn't going to be used by your store, therefore there wouldn't be any problem.

    The problem you are having is that even though you are not needing Zend (assumedly), the server is still trying to load the module, and is failing due to
    "/usr/local/Zend/lib/Guard-7.0.0/php-5.6.x/ZendGuardLoader.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
    This is a server configuration issue. It has nothing to do with ZenCart whatsoever.

    Just in case I've not made it 100% clear - Whether you are using a module that needs Zend or not is a moot point. The error isn't yours to fix. The server itself is busted. The host needs to fix it.

    Cheers
    RodG

    Tip: Send a copy of the bolded error line to your host - with a simple comment 'please fix'. No other explanation will be needed
    Last edited by RodG; 15 Nov 2015 at 01:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaWilma Hissink View Post
    They keep by what they say the fault is in the scripting

    I am sorry about the issues you are having but this is not a server issue. We provided you all the information that we could about the problems you are having. There errors I have provided you in my previous response are caused by scripting issues which is not something that our Tech Support team helps correct.

    Here are the errors that I have given you before:

    [Fri Nov 13 02:02:23 2015] [error] [client 69.36.160.253] Failed loading
    /usr/local/Zend/lib/Guard-7.0.0/php-5.6.x/ZendGuardLoader.so:
    /usr/local/Zend/lib/Guard-7.0.0/php-5.6.x/ZendGuardLoader.so: cannot open shared object
    file: No such file or directory


    Really strange that before they go to the new php there where no problems and now there are
    You could try to be a little cheeky, and request that they give you access and permissions to write to their /usr/local/Zend/ folder so that you can install the missing ZenGuardLoader.so file to resolve the problem that they imply is your problem and something they can't help with.

    As they previously stated though, Zend is a server wide implementation (as is the location of the missing file) I very much doubt that they will call your bluff on this due to the security implications.

    Frankly, I'm quite astounded that they've been giving you the responses that they have. Their apparent lack of knowledge goes beyond belief. I can't recall the last time I've seen such an idiotic response from a host (and trust me, I've seen a lot).

    OTOH, for $2.36 per month for hosting this is the kind of response to be expected (Not that paying premium prices is any guarantee of anything better)

    Cheers
    RodG

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodG View Post
    You could try to be a little cheeky, and request that they give you access and permissions to write to their /usr/local/Zend/ folder so that you can install the missing ZenGuardLoader.so file to resolve the problem that they imply is your problem and something they can't help with.

    As they previously stated though, Zend is a server wide implementation (as is the location of the missing file) I very much doubt that they will call your bluff on this due to the security implications.

    Frankly, I'm quite astounded that they've been giving you the responses that they have. Their apparent lack of knowledge goes beyond belief. I can't recall the last time I've seen such an idiotic response from a host (and trust me, I've seen a lot).

    OTOH, for $2.36 per month for hosting this is the kind of response to be expected (Not that paying premium prices is any guarantee of anything better)

    Cheers
    RodG
    That's exactly what I thought when I looked at that host's site last night - thanks for confirming this RodG!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RodG View Post
    Please inform your host that you don't want them to disable it for you.

    What you *want* them to do is *fix* their currently broken installation of it.

    If they can't fix it THEN they should perhaps consider disabling it.

    Here's the deal, to the best of my knowledge, neither ZenCart or any of its publically available modules need or use Zend (some commercial modules do though), so if we assume that you aren't using any modules that need Zend, then whether Zend is installed by the host or not is a moot point.

    If it is installed and working, it just isn't going to be used by your store, therefore there wouldn't be any problem.

    The problem you are having is that even though you are not needing Zend (assumedly), the server is still trying to load the module, and is failing due to
    "/usr/local/Zend/lib/Guard-7.0.0/php-5.6.x/ZendGuardLoader.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
    This is a server configuration issue. It has nothing to do with ZenCart whatsoever.

    Just in case I've not made it 100% clear - Whether you are using a module that needs Zend or not is a moot point. The error isn't yours to fix. The server itself is busted. The host needs to fix it.

    Cheers
    RodG

    Tip: Send a copy of the bolded error line to your host - with a simple comment 'please fix'. No other explanation will be needed
    And if they still deny that it is their problem then move to another host. They are obviously not capable or are unwilling to run a fully functional server!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricaWilma Hissink View Post
    The php on the server cannot be changed or modified, as it would affect everyone on the server, not just this account.
    Sorry about belaboring the point, but this is another example of their cluelessness. Almost every host on the planet supports multiple versions of PHP on the same server these days. Some of them even allow the user to select the version of their choice via their Cpanel, others require the selection to be performed via the php.ini file.

    Any host that doesn't allow the user to select PHP version and forces the latest version(s) on all users should be avoided. They *need* a way to allow their customers *time* to upgrade whatever software is being used to be compatible with *their* upgrades rather than installing something that can/will crash the customers sites without warning and without a grace period to rectify the issues.

    Run, don't walk to another host. At the moment they haven't given you the option to do anything else.

    Please note, that if you move to/from hosts that both use the 'Cpanel' management system (most of them these days), the migration to the new site is going to be far quicker and far easier you could imagine. You will need to do the cPanel backup/export (a couple of keypresses) and the host you migrate too will generally let you upload the backup file (already zipped) to the root folder of the new account, where they will run the scripts needed to extract and restore your entire site (That's WebPages, Databases, Email accounts, email filters and pretty much everything else) on the new site. You will need to do nothing. It's almost like magic (and that is a word I rarely use when it comes to computers).

    So far, not one of the hosts I've used (migrated sites too) have ever had a charge for performing this service. I suggest you ask about this before signing up for a new account though, just on the off chance that you select another host without a clue.

    Cheers
    RodG

 

 
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