Forums / All Other Contributions/Addons / You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

Results 1 to 20 of 51
12 Jul 2017, 22:52
#1
caroleas avatar

caroleas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Feb 2009
Posts:
896
Plugin Contributions:
0

You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

LINK TO PLUGIN: https://www.zen-cart.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=2147

I sell digital products and many of my customers purchase a LOT of them (i have over 500). One customer emailed me today saying that it was annoying when she ends up buying one product a second time, because she didn't remember she had already purchased it, or she didn't check her list of products on her computer, properly. She suggested I added a message when she shops that would say something like "You already purchased this product".

I was looking through the available plugins and can't find anything like that. Would anyone know if there is such a plugin (that i missed) or if someone would see the usefullness in such a plugin?
12 Jul 2017, 22:54
#2
lat9 avatar

lat9

Administrator

Join Date:
Sep 2009
Posts:
13,980
Plugin Contributions:
46

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

Sounds like a useful plugin for sites that distribute downloads! What is your store's policy on downloads, i.e. what are the limitations that you place on the downloads for number of times and/or time-window?
12 Jul 2017, 23:02
#3
caroleas avatar

caroleas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Feb 2009
Posts:
896
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

I have a default 7-day time window for downloads, but i will reset the download for anyone who asks for it (it is very occasional).
I don't mind if they download it a second time if they lost one copy, but there is really no need to purchase it a second time if they already have.
12 Jul 2017, 23:21
#4
lat9 avatar

lat9

Administrator

Join Date:
Sep 2009
Posts:
13,980
Plugin Contributions:
46

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

Thanks @CaroleAs; let's use this thread as a requirements-gathering one for the to-be-created plugin.

For the commercial plugins that I offer, I provide unlimited downloads for 365 days (so that the purchasing customers can receive updates for the year after-purchase), so the plugin will need to account for differing "situations".

Anyone else want to chime in with their requirements?
12 Jul 2017, 23:29
#5
caroleas avatar

caroleas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Feb 2009
Posts:
896
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

Just out of curiosity, what difference would the download limitations make with a message saying that the customer already purchased the product?
13 Jul 2017, 00:02
#6
website_rob avatar

website_rob

Inactive

Join Date:
Oct 2006
Posts:
4,572
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

lat9:

Thanks @CaroleAs; let's use this thread as a requirements-gathering one for the to-be-created plugin.

For the commercial plugins that I offer, I provide unlimited downloads for 365 days (so that the purchasing customers can receive updates for the year after-purchase), so the plugin will need to account for differing "situations".

Anyone else want to chime in with their requirements?


This would be for a Community module available for free download in the Plugin section and apply only to Virtual Downloads--correct?

Have its own configuration page starting with version number and listing features available.

Each feature, when coded in, to have its own switch for On/Off and other settings.

Possible feature could be when displaying a msg. such as "You've already purchased this Product" to also provide a button saying "Download Again?".
13 Jul 2017, 00:09
#7
caroleas avatar

caroleas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Feb 2009
Posts:
896
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

Website Rob:


Possible feature could be when displaying a msg. such as "You've already purchased this Product" to also provide a button saying "Download Again?".


I like that!
13 Jul 2017, 00:47
#8
mc12345678 avatar

mc12345678

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Jul 2012
Posts:
16,907
Plugin Contributions:
1

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

CaroleAs:

Just out of curiosity, what difference would the download limitations make with a message saying that the customer already purchased the product?

If a store's policy were to require repurchase of a download/product after a period of time, then it wouldn't make much sense after that time had lapsed to tell them that they had already purchased the product... to tell them it's time to renew/repurchase, sure, but that's different (and would be another feature).

Swguy had previously published a sort of version upgrade related plugin. Been a while since I've looked at it but there may be features in it to include.
13 Jul 2017, 00:51
#9
caroleas avatar

caroleas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Feb 2009
Posts:
896
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

mc12345678:

If a store's policy were to require repurchase of a download/product after a period of time, then it wouldn't make much sense after that time had lapsed to tell them that they had already purchased the product... to tell them it's time to renew/repurchase, sure, but that's different (and would be another feature).

Makes a lot of sense. Thanks.
13 Jul 2017, 05:51
#10
swguy avatar

swguy

Administrator

Join Date:
Feb 2006
Posts:
10,620
Plugin Contributions:
212

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

mc12345678:



Swguy had previously published a sort of version upgrade related plugin. Been a while since I've looked at it but there may be features in it to include.


Mine does the opposite of what's being discussed here - it charges for an upgrade. http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zencart_digital_product_upgrade.html

If you truly want to provide unlimited downloads for an unlimited time, just go to admin->configuration->attribute settings, and set
Download Expiration (Number of Days) to 0 and Number of Downloads Allowed - Per Product to a very large number.
13 Jul 2017, 05:59
#11
website_rob avatar

website_rob

Inactive

Join Date:
Oct 2006
Posts:
4,572
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

swguy:

- Per Product

And there is the rub. When looking at having to edit many Products, say 50+ 100+ or more, it would be quite daunting. Yes, other available modules may help alleviate the task but to have a module designed specifically for the task is what modules are all about.
13 Jul 2017, 06:13
#12
swguy avatar

swguy

Administrator

Join Date:
Feb 2006
Posts:
10,620
Plugin Contributions:
212

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

You might not be reading this correctly - these are two values in the configuration table. Not a value per product. The name of the second value is "Number of Downloads Allowed - Per Product". It's not a per product setting.
13 Jul 2017, 13:20
#13
lat9 avatar

lat9

Administrator

Join Date:
Sep 2009
Posts:
13,980
Plugin Contributions:
46

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

Website Rob:

This would be for a Community module available for free download in the Plugin section and apply only to Virtual Downloads--correct?

Have its own configuration page starting with version number and listing features available.

Each feature, when coded in, to have its own switch for On/Off and other settings.

Possible feature could be when displaying a msg. such as "You've already purchased this Product" to also provide a button saying "Download Again?".

Yes, a community module available for free download. I was thinking that any configuration would be present in the Configuration->Attributes Settings, along with the other download-related configuration settings.

The "You've already purchased this product" message would be displayed on re-display of the shopping-cart page once the customer is logged in (either placing the product in cart during a logged-in session or after the after-login redirect).
13 Jul 2017, 13:25
#14
lat9 avatar

lat9

Administrator

Join Date:
Sep 2009
Posts:
13,980
Plugin Contributions:
46

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

mc12345678:

If a store's policy were to require repurchase of a download/product after a period of time, then it wouldn't make much sense after that time had lapsed to tell them that they had already purchased the product... to tell them it's time to renew/repurchase, sure, but that's different (and would be another feature). ...

Within the constructs of the "You already purchased" plugin, I believe that the main focus is customer satisfaction ... letting the customer know that they don't need to re-purchase the downloadable product.
14 Jul 2017, 18:21
#15
lat9 avatar

lat9

Administrator

Join Date:
Sep 2009
Posts:
13,980
Plugin Contributions:
46

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

Going off the idea that there are currently two store policies regarding the downloads:
  1. @CaroleAs: If the download count/timeframe is exceeded, the customer can call to receive another chance for the download.
  2. @lat9: The download count/timeframe is honored; if either is exceeded, the customer must re-purchase the download.

... it appears that the to-be-created plugin will need at least one configuration value:

Download Prior Purchase Messaging: Choose the method with which to communicate the prior purchase to the customer, one of:
  1. Disabled ... no special processing. The download can always be re-purchased without message.
  2. Call on Expiration ... Regardless the status of the download count/timeframe expiration, the item cannot be re-purchased. If the download has not expired, the customer is directed to the order-information page where the active download link is displayed. Otherwise, a message is displayed indicating that the customer has previously purchased the product and should call the store owner to get their download "reset".
  3. Enforce Expiration ... If the download count/timeframe is not expired, the item cannot be re-purchased. A message is displayed pointing the customer to the associated order-information page where the download link should still be active. Otherwise, the item purchase proceeds without message.

Comments and/or additional purchase scenarios welcomed.
15 Jul 2017, 19:13
#16
lat9 avatar

lat9

Administrator

Join Date:
Sep 2009
Posts:
13,980
Plugin Contributions:
46

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

I've just submitted v1.0.0 of Download Already Purchased Messaging to the Zen Cart plugins for review; once approved, it can be downloaded from this link: https://www.zen-cart.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=2147.

This thread will serve as the plugin's support thread.
16 Jul 2017, 07:44
#17
frank18 avatar

frank18

Deceased

Join Date:
Nov 2007
Posts:
3,427
Plugin Contributions:
2

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

CaroleAs:

I sell digital products and many of my customers purchase a LOT of them (i have over 500). One customer emailed me today saying that it was annoying when she ends up buying one product a second time, because she didn't remember she had already purchased it, or she didn't check her list of products on her computer, properly. She suggested I added a message when she shops that would say something like "You already purchased this product".

I was looking through the available plugins and can't find anything like that. Would anyone know if there is such a plugin (that i missed) or if someone would see the usefullness in such a plugin?


@CaroleAs, do you have a link to your site so I can get a feel what it is all about please? You can PM me if you don't want to publicly post the link.

Thanks / Frank
19 Jul 2017, 15:28
#18
lat9 avatar

lat9

Administrator

Join Date:
Sep 2009
Posts:
13,980
Plugin Contributions:
46

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

lat9:

I've just submitted v1.0.0 of Download Already Purchased Messaging to the Zen Cart plugins for review; once approved, it can be downloaded from this link: https://www.zen-cart.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=2147.

This thread will serve as the plugin's support thread.

The plugin is now available for download.
21 Jul 2017, 12:01
#19
caroleas avatar

caroleas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Feb 2009
Posts:
896
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

frank18:

@CaroleAs, do you have a link to your site so I can get a feel what it is all about please? You can PM me if you don't want to publicly post the link.

Thanks / Frank


Sorry, didn't get a notification of this reply sooner. Here is my store link: http://creationcassel.com/store/
21 Jul 2017, 15:13
#20
caroleas avatar

caroleas

Totally Zenned

Join Date:
Feb 2009
Posts:
896
Plugin Contributions:
0

Re: You already purchased this product... [Support Thread]

Thanks. I was going to install this very plugin that i asked for and i could not remember how to do so (i didn't find a README file in it)