UPS Shipping using RESTful/OAuth API [Support Thread]

[njcyx]

Any plan to support UPS ground saver? It seems cheaper than the regular UPS ground.

https://blog.stamps.com/ups-ground-saver/

stamps.com users can create shipping labels for UPS ground saver now.

Here is more information:

https://support.pirateship.com/en/ar...u-need-to-know

Packages must be at least 4” high, 6” long, and .75” wide (4 x 6 x 0.75") and may not exceed 130” in length & girth combined
No one dimension can exceed 60” in length
Maximum weight is 70 lbs per package
Packages that weigh less than 1 lb will be subject to a minimum billable weight of 1 lb
Note: If you ship a package with UPS Ground Saver that exceeds any of the above weight and size restrictions, UPS will hit you with an "Over Maximum Limits" surcharge, which is $1,150

[lat9]

I've reviewed UPS' current documentation on their RESTful API and I don't see any reference to "Ground Saver" in the list of "Service Codes" returned.

[njcyx]

Hi @lat9, thanks for your reply.

It seems ground saver cannot be found under ups website. Maybe it is still a pilot program now. Here are some developer information I found which are surepost related. I'm not sure if any difference between surepost and ground saver. Maybe UPS just rebranded surepost into ground saver.

https://www.ups.com/worldshiphelp/WS..._Shipments.htm
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...s-surepost-api

Here is the service codes for surepost (posted back in 2017):

92: UPS SurePost Less than 1LB
93: UPS SurePost 1LB or greater
94: UPS SurePost BPM
95: UPS SurePost Media Mail

At least, the example shipping label pirateship uses for ground saver is surepost label.
https://support.pirateship.com/en/ar...u-need-to-know

[lat9]

Hi @lat9, thanks for your reply.

It seems ground saver cannot be found under ups website. Maybe it is still a pilot program now. Here are some developer information I found which are surepost related. I'm not sure if any difference between surepost and ground saver. Maybe UPS just rebranded surepost into ground saver.

https://www.ups.com/worldshiphelp/WS..._Shipments.htm
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/...s-surepost-api

Here is the service codes for surepost (posted back in 2017):

92: UPS SurePost Less than 1LB
93: UPS SurePost 1LB or greater
94: UPS SurePost BPM
95: UPS SurePost Media Mail

At least, the example shipping label pirateship uses for ground saver is surepost label.
https://support.pirateship.com/en/ar...u-need-to-know

I took a peek at those links; it looks like a site needs to register with UPS to receive SurePost quotes. Did you do that?

[njcyx]

Correct. Surepost/ground saver is not enabled by default. You need to contact your sales/account agent to enable it. I'm not sure if the API require the same thing or not.

We haven't used surepost yet since it is not a "UPS" only shipping method. There is a "chance" that it will be delivered by USPS instead of UPS, which is bad. It is not like Fedex ground economy, which is only shipped through Fedex, not USPS.

[lat9]

Correct. Surepost/ground saver is not enabled by default. You need to contact your sales/account agent to enable it. I'm not sure if the API require the same thing or not.

We haven't used surepost yet since it is not a "UPS" only shipping method. There is a "chance" that it will be delivered by USPS instead of UPS, which is bad. It is not like Fedex ground economy, which is only shipped through Fedex, not USPS.

With SurePost enabled for your UPS account, if you turn on the UPSOauth shipping module's debug, are you seeing SurePost quotes coming back?

[lat9]

v1.3.4 of the shipping-module is now available for download: https://www.zen-cart.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=2374

This release contains changes associated with these GitHub issues:

#29: Correct 'casing' of getAllUPSQuotes method, changed to getAllUpsQuotes.
#30: Correct API-class override not overriding when changed.

[njcyx]

With SurePost enabled for your UPS account, if you turn on the UPSOauth shipping module's debug, are you seeing SurePost quotes coming back?

Actually, I'm not sure if surepost is enabled in my account. We haven't signed anything from our UPS agent yet regarding surepost.

Regarding the log, I just tried it on my end. In the log file generated from UPS plug-in, I can only find the shipping methods enabled in the plug-in. For example, I'm only enabled UPS ground and UPS 3day in the plug-in. In the log file, I can only find titles as "UPS Ground" and "UPS 3 Day Select". No 2 day, no nextday air, no surepost...

[swguy]

The old UPS API had a way to look up tracking numbers based on the order ID that a shipper used:

$tracking = new Ups\Tracking($accessKey, $userId, $password);
$tracking->setShipperNumber($my_shipper_number);
$shipment = $tracking->trackByReference($order_id);

Have you seen anything like this in your travels with the new API? It seems like they expect you to have the tracking number.
(The use case is shipping packages using UPS Worldship and then wanting to pull the tracking numbers into Zen Cart.)

[swguy]

This is a weird situation that might be worth documenting on

https://github.com/lat9/upsoauth/wik...-Client-Secret

below "associate an existing account or create a new one"

If a developer is installing this module, and the business does not have an existing account, you will have to choose "create a new account."

It's best to get the storeowner to go through the account creation process, because they will verify your identity with an EIN or Credit Card number (which the developer probably won't have).

(It seems odd to me that someone would not have a shipping account set up, but this has happened to me a few times and it's always a pain. I think the most common explanation is that they just need a price from UPS, and somehow the shipping is being taken care of by someone else or in some other way.)