Image Handler 2 (for ZC v1.3.8 ONLY) Support

[DarkAngel]

yup, i upload all of them by ftp---main and additional ones and trust me they are all larger than what I have set for the max width which in my case I think is 900

[ideasgirl]

Ok, ok... don't attack me, I was not critizising the module, neither your efforts, we all appreciate the time put into supporting the modules you guys/galls create, edit, and update; but saying my side of view...

First:

No more image hotzones - The hotzone feature added no real value to Image Handler2, and it has been removed.

I said: It did have real value. See... instead of having an annoying popup hover while you browse the shop, the visitor will have control of which images s/he wants to see bigger before going to the product info page. I thought (and I still think) that this was a very nice setting to have more control about the hovering bigger picture.

I never said that it was said that the hover didn't work. Look at my post and check that I was talking about the "HOTZONES". They worked perfectly for me and my customers. Here's an example of them working perfectly: couturebagz.com

Yes, it did have some bugs but they were "workable".

Medium image hover really was not implemented..

Sorry, my bad. I wasn't talking about the medium hover but the optimization into those sizes that I'm mentioning. But, since you mention that... That didn't bother me because it doesn't really make sense that if I'm on the product page and want to see a bigger image hover over it instead of just clicking and seeing the bigger image (but that's my opinion)

Second:
I never said watermark feature was not working, I said that the images uploaded by FTP (like my issue on post #6624) were not showing the watermark.

All my tests and opinions DO NOT INCLUDE LIGHTBOX, so that's why I didn't take that in consideration.

Now @DarkAngel and @nigelt74:
Based on my issue posted (#6624) and from your 2 latest posts, I ask:
When uploading the additional images, to what folder am I supposed to upload? to the large folder? subfolder? because maybe there is the clue. On the old IH2 I can upload just to the same subdirectory the main image is uploaded, and the other images are recreated on the other folders, so I'm doing it the same way on this version... So maybe that's my problem?

[DivaVocals]

Not attacking you at all girl.. I'm just long winded..

You know I love you because I LOVE Puerto Rico.. (Totally JEALOUS that you live in such a beautiful place!!)

I never said that it was said that the hover didn't work. Look at my post and check that I was talking about the "HOTZONES". They worked perfectly for me and my customers. Here's an example of them working perfectly: couturebagz.com

Yes, it did have some bugs but they were "workable".

I understood.. I wanted to make sure that it was CLEAR for everyone following this thread since hotzones was an extension of the on-hover functionality..

Workable bugs unfortunately means that the feature doesn't work consistently, and that only creates support issues..

That said, while you may have gotten it to work, others had issues with it.. In QA testing for Rev 7 we began to look at hotzones and why it failed to work consistently. In Rev 8 development, neither ckosloff or Mano could figure out WHY. Therefore the feature was de-scoped.. From our standpoint there was no point in continuing to try and support a feature which did not work consistently. In the collective opinion of those working on the release in which the function was 1st "de-scoped", hotzones was a MINOR feature and NOT the primary reason to install IH2 in the first place.

There were BIGGER concerns with the Rev 7 and Rev 8 releases that needed to be addressed including PHP 1.53 compatibility, updates to the JS for better browsers compatibility, and updates for Zen Cart v1.3.9 compatibility. Therefore, fixing hotzones became a low priority.

It's removal did not affect the primary functionality of IH2 which is why we were comfortable with making this development scope decision. Like image hover, hotzones are simply a "cool nice to have" feature. IH2's BIGGEST value to a shop owner is in the resizing and image optimization features it offers. When we stated it added no value one way or the other to IH2 this is what we meant by that statement.

Sorry, my bad. I wasn't talking about the medium hover but the optimization into those sizes that I'm mentioning. But, since you mention that... That didn't bother me because it doesn't really make sense that if I'm on the product page and want to see a bigger image hover over it instead of just clicking and seeing the bigger image (but that's my opinion)

I agree.. and I think this and lightbox integration issues is why Tim never went further with developing this feature.. The upcoming version (thanks to Nigel showing the way) allows you to choose medium or large image as the small image hover.. I think this adds more value to the image hover feature than medium image hover.

Second:
I never said watermark feature was not working, I said that the images uploaded by FTP (like my issue on post #6624) were not showing the watermark.

Then this would indicate that the location you upload your images to are the issue... The watermark feature looks for additional images to be in the same folder as the primary product image.

All my tests and opinions DO NOT INCLUDE LIGHTBOX, so that's why I didn't take that in consideration.

Noted.. I included that information because over time I have found that it's incorrectly implement lightbox installs that can cause issues with IH2.

When uploading the additional images, to what folder am I supposed to upload? to the large folder? subfolder? because maybe there is the clue. On the old IH2 I can upload just to the same subdirectory the main image is uploaded, and the other images are recreated on the other folders, so I'm doing it the same way on this version... So maybe that's my problem?

That's exactly how it should work.. The additional images need to be located in the same folder as the primary product image..

[ideasgirl]

Not attacking you at all girl.. I'm just long winded..

You know I love you because I LOVE Puerto Rico.. (Totally JEALOUS that you live in such a beautiful place!!)

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OH! I see...... so you are attacking me because you are jealous I'm from "Enchanted Island", "Pearl of the Caribbean", "Paradise on Earth"... Puerto Rico?
Here you go: youtu.be/CvOLT7fjQ3Q ENJOY!
I customer of mine from Ireland came last June but we couldn't meet because I wasn't here. I arrived a day later than when she left.
On May another customer is coming to attend a wedding, he said I was going to be his and his GF tour-guide.... we will see.
You are invited and we can meet for a coffee anytime :)
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The bug of the hotzones I believe it was on the size settings. I really like it, like you say "not because it was the main purpose of the module, but like a little extra nice option to have", not always less is more. If I don't have that feature, I won't probably use the hover since I find it really annoying when browsing pages. Maybe just because I'm a control freak?! (((not))) it's really annoying.

Oh, and yes, that's where I'm uploading the images, so I don't have a clue of what's going on.

[DivaVocals]

Now you're just being MEAN!!! Go ahead.. rub it in!!

Plan to make a return trip to PR ASAP.. Though dunno when as hubby has just indicated an interest in a trip to the DR.. (I'm sure because he found out they have some drag racing event happening!!)

==========BOF OFF TOPIC==========
OH! I see...... so you are attacking me because you are jealous I'm from "Enchanted Island", "Pearl of the Caribbean", "Paradise on Earth"... Puerto Rico?
Here you go: youtu.be/CvOLT7fjQ3Q ENJOY!
I customer of mine from Ireland came last June but we couldn't meet because I wasn't here. I arrived a day later than when she left.
On May another customer is coming to attend a wedding, he said I was going to be his and his GF tour-guide.... we will see.
You are invited and we can meet for a coffee anytime :)
==========EOF OFF TOPIC==========

The bug of the hotzones I believe it was on the size settings. I really like it, like you say "not because it was the main purpose of the module, but like a little extra nice option to have", not always less is more. If I don't have that feature, I won't probably use the hover since I find it really annoying when browsing pages. Maybe just because I'm a control freak?! (((not))) it's really annoying.

Oh, and yes, that's where I'm uploading the images, so I don't have a clue of what's going on.

I can't remember WHAT about the hot zones was the issue (would have to look for the various e-mail son the topic), but I do know that it did not work as expected consistently.. Hence it was CUT from the team!

I'll PM you later tonight.. Let's see if we can figure out what's going on with you..

[it2steve]

I've tried several ways to get multiple images for a product, just adding more images with the same naming scheme and now I've installed Image Handler 2, still no dice:

Install seemed to go correctly, ran IH2 out of tools, went to the product where it sees 5 images for one particular product but only displays one?

I've pulled and re-added the images thru IH2 to see if that helped and still just one image?

Could it be because I am using a custom template that will not allow it?

The site is www.electronicCrap.com and the only product that is supposed to have multiple images at this time is here
http://electroniccrap.com/store/inde...products_id=26

Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated :)

[ideasgirl]

I've pulled and re-added the images thru IH2 to see if that helped and still just one image?

Go to your admin:
Catalog > Product Types > Product General > Edit Layout
Check if you have "Show Product Additional Images" as TRUE.

[DivaVocals]

Just make sure we are not comparing apples to oranges, this isn't an issue with IH2 for you.. As you stated, additional images wasn't working for you BEFORE you installed IH2..

This means it's possible that there's one of two things going on:

1. Your custom template modifies the default Zen Cart functions which control additional image behavior.
   
   If this is a template that you purchased from Template Monster (or one of their affiliates), given their reputation for routinely slashing out required Zen Cart code to make their template "look" good, this does not surprise me. If it is a Template Monstrosity template, you will need to go back to them and ask them to fix your template to restore the default additional image behavior.
   
   Even if it's NOT a Template Monstrosity template it's possible that your template customizations removed some fo the required code to allow additional images to function..
2. The other option is that you have different file formats for your product images.. Please read through this support thread and the IH2 readme (where we very explicitly call this issue out). You can't have the main product image one file format with additional images another format.. (ie: JPG main image and PNG additional images)

I've tried several ways to get multiple images for a product, just adding more images with the same naming scheme and now I've installed Image Handler 2, still no dice:

Install seemed to go correctly, ran IH2 out of tools, went to the product where it sees 5 images for one particular product but only displays one?

I've pulled and re-added the images thru IH2 to see if that helped and still just one image?

Could it be because I am using a custom template that will not allow it?

The site is www.electronicCrap.com and the only product that is supposed to have multiple images at this time is here
http://electroniccrap.com/store/inde...products_id=26

Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated :)

[nigelt74]

I've tried several ways to get multiple images for a product, just adding more images with the same naming scheme and now I've installed Image Handler 2, still no dice:

Install seemed to go correctly, ran IH2 out of tools, went to the product where it sees 5 images for one particular product but only displays one?

I've pulled and re-added the images thru IH2 to see if that helped and still just one image?

Could it be because I am using a custom template that will not allow it?

The site is www.electronicCrap.com and the only product that is supposed to have multiple images at this time is here
http://electroniccrap.com/store/inde...products_id=26

Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated :)

are all the images of the same type eg exactly the same file extension as zencart (additional images)treats jpeg as different to jpg and jpg as different to JPG

Can you provide a direct link to the image (not the image handler version)
something like electroniccrap<dot>com/store/images/thispictue.jpg

[nigelt74]

First:

I never said that it was said that the hover didn't work. Look at my post and check that I was talking about the "HOTZONES". They worked perfectly for me and my customers. Here's an example of them working perfectly: couturebagz.com

Yes, it did have some bugs but they were "workable".

But the hotzones are not working on that site, I can put my mouse anywhere on an image and the pop-up appears (using opera)

also go to this page

http://www.couturebagz.com/index.php...&cPath=180_182

wait for it to completely load then test the image hover in chrome and opera (go down to the bottom of the page for both), as the hover doesn't work below the page fold.
Now go to the same page in IE9, wait for it to fully load, once its fully loaded the image hover ceases to work, some ie9 weirdness, the latest js should fix allthat, go back a few posts to find a link

Now @DarkAngel and @nigelt74:
Based on my issue posted (#6624) and from your 2 latest posts, I ask:
When uploading the additional images, to what folder am I supposed to upload? to the large folder? subfolder? because maybe there is the clue. On the old IH2 I can upload just to the same subdirectory the main image is uploaded, and the other images are recreated on the other folders, so I'm doing it the same way on this version... So maybe that's my problem?

I just upload them all into the same folder as the primary image

http://grumpykiwi.com/haeana/images/image8.jpg
http://grumpykiwi.com/haeana/images/image8_01.jpg
http://grumpykiwi.com/haeana/images/image8_02.jpg