Thanks for the comments, after almost 2 weks going up/down sideways and finally a mid-air stall, the little bugger is no where to be found...

So, anyone got any clues. Nothing to do with any addons either as this was there from the first. I'm using the 1.3.7 classic template as the base as well.

as well, This is a pure clean new install, not upgraded or imported.

So, it's got be stumped