take a look at my site. www.shopyoungway.com (long off from being finished) the categories menu has better categories built into it. but no outline border it just does not fit right i want to put like a border around the categories menu and the categories header. the prob i run into is i can get it around the menu itself but the header gets on border. i was looking at the my account sign up page and it has a light grey border that wraps around the whole signup sheet and kinda envelopes the hearder for it. this is what i am trying to get it would fit perfect but every piece of css i play with just does not fit