Better Together Contribution Support Thread

[swguy]

New caveat (will be added to documentation shortly) - if you are using the prod_to_cat or cat_to_cat features, please check the master_categories_id field in the products table, and ensure that it's the category for this product. If you manually loaded the data or did something out of the ordinary to populate your database, it might be set to 0, in which case you will need to fix it.

Scott

[pivey]

Now guess what....it works after updating the Master_Category ID to be nonzero
"0"

For the people with the same issue:
I used Easy Populate to load my shop data. This caused many of my products master categories to be zero (0)
In this case, all Master_Categories have to updated to contain a non zero value.
Scott's documentation does explain in detail how to do this.

Thanks a lot Scott.
Really helpful contribution as it was missing so far.

I just realized that ZC is related to MySQL ... I better start learn some more stuff

[swguy]

Thanks for the update, pivey. Meanwhile, I have posted a message to the Easy Populate thread about your problem; perhaps a future version of Easy Populate will fix this.

http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showth...614#post278614

Regards,
Scott

[swguy]

Another suggestion has been added to the Better Together FAQ:

http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca..._together.html

If you are concerned that people don't know they might have a discount coming
when they look at their cart, try changing SUB_TITLE_SUB_TOTAL in includes/languages/english/shopping_cart.php

to something like 'Sub-Total BEFORE Discount'
This will emphasize the fact that a discount will be added at checkout time.

Good luck,
Scott

[pivey]

Yes, this would be a solution, but customers actually need to see what they are earning in discounts. The only way to do this, is to always going forward checkout 2 steps.
Not very user friendly.
Customers should have their deduction displayed in their shopping cart.
If not substracted, at least somehow "savings from discounts" displayed always visible.
This is an essential (marketing) feature to shopping carts, should have been added in development.

[swguy]

Easier said than done. Anyone can load items in the cart and click the shopping cart page, even before logging in. Having no idea of their address, how then would I compute the discount, which may include shipping and/or tax? What about the order in which order_total items are applied, which affects the computation of discounts such as the group discount?

If you can guarantee me certain pre-conditions, then yes, I could integrate this logic with shopping_cart.php, which draws the shopping cart page. But then who's going to port this every time shopping_cart.php changes (which is pretty much every release)?

Having said all that, of course I would be delighted to rewrite this code to your personal
specifications. Just give me a statement of work and your credit card number and I'll
have it done in no time!

Scott

[pivey]

Hi Scott.

..should have been added in development

means, that the shopping cart page could have been optimized to display all savings from purchases, not only your contribution ones.

I just asked myself why this possibility is not given as long customers(e.g. purchasing specials) whould be happier to have a "tatal of savings" substrarcted from their total, or at least mentioned.
I mean, it is displayed in product detail as "You save.." without taking care of additional savings (shipping/tax) at that point.
Even to customers not logged in...

So please don't take peoples comments personal.
This is not a issue concernig just me. I thing every shop owner would be glad to offer this option to his customer instead of telling him "proceed checkout and you WILL see what you pay in total.

[alhakeem2001]

OK, I have just installed the Better Together Promotional Page, but I couldn't figure out/find anything related on my product pages, I tried every thing like go through the whole process of purchasing a product.. Do I need to install an extra thing to make it work? I was expecting to have a control on that from the admin panel ! shouldn't I ?

[swguy]

The promotional page is completely separate from your product info pages.

To get the marketing text on your product info pages, follow these instructions:
http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca...html#marketing

This will show a message if you have a discount on the item you are viewing. The promotional page shows *all* discounts.

You must install Better Together and add a discount to the setup() function before doing this so that there's something to show.

[alhakeem2001]

The promotional page is completely separate from your product info pages.

To get the marketing text on your product info pages, follow these instructions:
http://www.thatsoftwareguy.com/zenca...html#marketing

This will show a message if you have a discount on the item you are viewing. The promotional page shows *all* discounts.

You must install Better Together and add a discount to the setup() function before doing this so that there's something to show.

Thanks swguy for you quick reaction, I understood now how the first one to use but what do you mean by You must install Better Together and add a discount to the setup() function before doing this so that there's something to show. can you please explain more because I thought that can be done from the admin panel ! right ?