Better Together Contribution Support Thread

[Woodymon]

New sample possibilities in v.1.2

// Buy item 12, get a second one free.
// $this->add_twoforone_prod(12);

// Buy any item from category 10, get a second identical one free
// $this->add_twoforone_cat(10);

define('TWOFER', 'Buy this item, get another just like it free!');

I like BT v.1.2. Thanks for the update Scott!

Will eventually need to add some buttons to display the BT special offers on the product pages, instead of just the BT text links. Maybe a generic button like: "Discount/Special Offer" then below the button display whatever BT text link applies to the particular discount: e.g. "Buy this item, get TestProduct 2 at 25% off". Or could get really complex and call different button images depending on the type of offer. ;-)

Also on my radar:

I'm also using qhome's Tabbed Products v3.8 mod. So just like 'Reviews', 'We Also Recommend', 'CrossSell', and "Ask A Question' it would be cool if 'Better Together' could be integrated into the Tabbed Products mod tab structure. Possibly have a separate tab for Better Together offer. Or even better put objects from 'We Also Recommend', 'CrossSell', and 'Better Together' mods all on the same tab? Just some ideas...

If using this Better Together feature creates some sales will talk shop owner into springing for the BT extension and Discount Previews extension.

First I need to roll the new 1.36 shop out and quit the continued detailing, customizing and adding features. Anyone else with the same problem ;-)

Woody

[swguy]

Glad it's working well for you. One thing I forgot to mention in my last post is that the marketing text returned from get_discount_info() has been improved for users of add_prod_to_prod when the first and second parameters are the same (this is a buy one, get the second at a discount type of promotion). For instance, if the third and fourth parameters were "%" and 100, the previous message was

Buy this item, get a <item name> free.

The message is now

Buy this item, get a second one free.

(and if the third and fourth parameters were, say, "%" and 50, the message would be "Buy this item, get a second one at 50% off").

The message is unchanged when the first and second parameters differ.

I think this is a bit less awkward sounding.

Good luck,
Scott

[swguy]

Will eventually need to add some buttons to display the BT special offers on the product pages, instead of just the BT text links. Maybe a generic button like: "Discount/Special Offer" then below the button display whatever BT text link applies to the particular discount: e.g. "Buy this item, get TestProduct 2 at 25% off". Or could get really complex and call different button images depending on the type of offer. ;-)
Woody

You could use GD to cook up a button dynamically with the discount verbage on it. A good little project for someone. :)

Scott

[Woodymon]

Hi Scott,

Finally able to initiate using this mod on a live store. I have set up so Product A displays: "buy this and receive product B at 25% off". And that works.

I wonder if there is any way to make an associated note on the Product B page, that if "you buy Product B with product A then you receive a 25% discount on product B". So buyers of both products would be made aware of the available bundle deal?

I could set up a similar discount on the product B page but then when the customer checks out they receive TWO discounts.

Hope this is clear. Any recommends on this?

2. Also I would like to setup a "buy product A and B, then you get product C free" scenario. Is that possible?

Woody

[swguy]

(2) is unlikely, but (1) is an interesting idea. Let me noodle on this.

Thanks,
Scott

[swguy]

I could set up a similar discount on the product B page but then when the customer checks out they receive TWO discounts.

Would you please double check this? I thought I coded it in such a way as to guard against this.
(Not that this is a workable solution for the specific problem you have - it would be a terrible pain to maintain these symmetric lists of associations. I just want to be sure you're allowed to do it and don't get the astonishing result of a double discount!)

Thanks,
Scott

[Woodymon]

Would you please double check this? I thought I coded it in such a way as to guard against this.
(Not that this is a workable solution for the specific problem you have - it would be a terrible pain to maintain these symmetric lists of associations. I just want to be sure you're allowed to do it and don't get the astonishing result of a double discount!)

Thanks for the follow-up Scott,

Sorry if I was not clear. I was making a presumption that if I set-up a discount on one product and then also set-up a discount on the other product, I would receive two discounts.

So to test this I just set-up:
$this->add_prod_to_prod(A, B, "%", 25);
$this->add_prod_to_prod(B, A, "%", 25);

And I added both products to my shopping cart and checkout shows only one discount applied! Cool!

Questions:

What controls which discount would apply (say product A is $14 and product B is $12. Would the 25% discount be $3.50 or $3.00? What is the criteria for calculating the basis of the discount in this scenario? By the order the products are added to customer shopping cart?

Yes it would be great, if when setting up a discount, which directly involves two products, the bundle discount availability would be promoted on both product description pages.

And would be cool if such special could be displayed on product listing (category) pages or on the featured products page per example (since we have only few products we display all products on home page in Featured Products listing in center column).

Maybe add a red asterisk to the price (*) and a legend at the top and bottom of the listing show:

* = special bundle price available (see product page)

But I can see supporting such as above would add additional complexibility to the mod. But as Borat would say, that would be "very nice". ;-)

And yes the idea of being able to bundle more than two products together has much appeal (e.g. buy A and B get C for free).

Woody

[swguy]

Questions:

What controls which discount would apply (say product A is $14 and product B is $12. Would the 25% discount be $3.50 or $3.00? What is the criteria for calculating the basis of the discount in this scenario? By the order the products are added to customer shopping cart?

No - by the order you code them in the setup() function. But believe it or not, some clients asked me to modify this logic and apply *all* possible discounts! (The Crazy Eddies of e-commerce.)

I'm working on the "reverse" marketing logic- should be able to release this weekend. Stay tuned!

Scott

[swguy]

No - by the order you code them in the setup() function.

Let me clarify this answer: since Better Together 1.2, the order has been two-for-ones first, then better together linkages in the order specified in setup(). Prior to this it was just by the order specified in the setup.

Scott

[cosmocanuck]

Hi there! I'm trying to install Better Together but - after carefully putting all the files where they're supposed to go, and allowing for the name of my custom installation - it does not show up as an item on Order Total Modules in my admin.

What might possibly be the reason for this? I'm eager to get started with cross-product discounts...

Many thanks!
adam