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    Default Re: Simple Google Analytics - Support

    I'm almost at my wits end so to speak trying to get this plugin to work especialiy consider we have a 5 figure ppc spend monthly and have lost all ability to track conversions. We had a 1.3x version of zen and it worked perfectly for conversion tracking of our ppc. Then we upgraded to the latest zen, very carefully. at the time we also upgraded our template from "black_pure_free" to "westminster new responsive".

    now the ppc tracking doesnt work at all. I mean nothing. analytics seems to be working to an extent although it is not perfectly tracking but we are more concerned about ppc. I don't even know where to look I've installed, uninstalled this more than a few times and went thru it file by file trying to figure out why it is not working but am at a loss.

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    Default Re: Simple Google Analytics - Support

    Quote Originally Posted by thomaswhiteeagle View Post
    I'm almost at my wits end so to speak trying to get this plugin to work especialiy consider we have a 5 figure ppc spend monthly and have lost all ability to track conversions. We had a 1.3x version of zen and it worked perfectly for conversion tracking of our ppc. Then we upgraded to the latest zen, very carefully. at the time we also upgraded our template from "black_pure_free" to "westminster new responsive".

    now the ppc tracking doesnt work at all. I mean nothing. analytics seems to be working to an extent although it is not perfectly tracking but we are more concerned about ppc. I don't even know where to look I've installed, uninstalled this more than a few times and went thru it file by file trying to figure out why it is not working but am at a loss.
    If you apply the appropriate basic Zen Cart upgrades to your older template (ie: apply all the changes of the new version onto the files in your old template), does that template then handle your analytics correctly? If so, then your new template is suspect.
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    Default Re: Simple Google Analytics - Support

    Quote Originally Posted by thomaswhiteeagle View Post
    I'm almost at my wits end so to speak trying to get this plugin to work especialiy consider we have a 5 figure ppc spend monthly and have lost all ability to track conversions. We had a 1.3x version of zen and it worked perfectly for conversion tracking of our ppc. Then we upgraded to the latest zen, very carefully. at the time we also upgraded our template from "black_pure_free" to "westminster new responsive".

    now the ppc tracking doesnt work at all. I mean nothing. analytics seems to be working to an extent although it is not perfectly tracking but we are more concerned about ppc. I don't even know where to look I've installed, uninstalled this more than a few times and went thru it file by file trying to figure out why it is not working but am at a loss.
    Quote Originally Posted by DrByte View Post
    If you apply the appropriate basic Zen Cart upgrades to your older template (ie: apply all the changes of the new version onto the files in your old template), does that template then handle your analytics correctly? If so, then your new template is suspect.
    Wondering if the OP doesn't have the CSS/JS Loader installed?? I have found that even on WordPress, caching/compressing/minimizing modules are usual culprits to look at when jScript driven code suddenly STOPS working..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    Wondering if the OP doesn't have the CSS/JS Loader installed??
    Yet another reason why I've never liked that thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    Wondering if the OP doesn't have the CSS/JS Loader installed?? I have found that even on WordPress, caching/compressing/minimizing modules are usual culprits to look at when jScript driven code suddenly STOPS working..
    yes, perhaps good question not sure how to find the answer to it. As to the first question with regard to one template versus another, man I'm a little overwhelmed by the perceived complexity of following that course to find the answer. First I think I'd have to figure out a way to make a version that is upgraded and using the older template and the module. Then I'd have to be able to use a live PPC link to pass thru to the old template so probably would need to make a unique campaign url to go to the address where the old template is working. just thinking out loud. seems complicated and risky. because this is a production site that is the sole income for alot of people and relies heavily on ppc so on the one hand need to figure this out on the other hand cannot disrupt anything in the process.

    I might be able to simply switch over to the old template on the production site since the files are all still there in the template folder but hasn't been upgraded itself during an off time like late night on the weekend when the impact will be minimal and running some tests then and see if it is passing the info to ppc. Maybe the easier solution there as far as trying to troubleshoot. Then if we see it still isnt working we might think it is something else altogether and not the template necessarily.

    any ideas about how M ight be able to debug the problem using the living site?

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    Default Re: Simple Google Analytics - Support

    Quote Originally Posted by thomaswhiteeagle View Post
    I'm almost at my wits end so to speak trying to get this plugin to work especialiy consider we have a 5 figure ppc spend monthly and have lost all ability to track conversions. We had a 1.3x version of zen and it worked perfectly for conversion tracking of our ppc. Then we upgraded to the latest zen, very carefully. at the time we also upgraded our template from "black_pure_free" to "westminster new responsive".

    now the ppc tracking doesnt work at all. I mean nothing. analytics seems to be working to an extent although it is not perfectly tracking but we are more concerned about ppc. I don't even know where to look I've installed, uninstalled this more than a few times and went thru it file by file trying to figure out why it is not working but am at a loss.
    PM me info on your site and I'll take a look at it. I've got this running still on many sites (hundreds) with PPC tracking (I manage PPC campaigns with over $10,000 budgets all day long) and it works flawlessly. Something had to have occured during your upgrade causing it not to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by econcepts View Post
    PM me info on your site and I'll take a look at it. I've got this running still on many sites (hundreds) with PPC tracking (I manage PPC campaigns with over $10,000 budgets all day long) and it works flawlessly. Something had to have occured during your upgrade causing it not to work.
    @econcepts I've sent you a couple of pms but haven't heard back, just a reminder.

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    Default Re: Simple Google Analytics - Support

    I see the one PM here Thomas.

    Just replied via PM for additional details needed.
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    Here is the fix to get Google PPC conversion tracking working without using the simple google analytics module, for anyone perhaps ever facing an issue similar to mine. The background on it is since we upgrade to zen 1.5x series our tracking stopped working. Haven't been able to figure out why. econcepts was going to look into it for us but simply doesn't appear to have the time as we've been waiting for about a month now. But since our site is a production site that relies heavily on Google PPC having the tracking data is critical to us. SO I dug back into our files for code we'd manually used in the past that had worked and found this and modified it for current use and voila it is working correctly. Basically it is the exact code provided by google (replace the "x's" in my code with your id provided by google or better yet simply copy the code google gives you and replace the order value information)

    It may or may not work for you were using it on latest version of zen cart, eg, 1.5x series.
    always backup your files before making any changes, you've been warned, :)

    simply put this is the code provided by google. what makes it work is replacing the var google conversion value part with this: var google_conversion_value = <?php echo $order_summary['order_total']; ?>; - also will not track properly if you don't have in the noscript area this part as shown below: value=<?php echo $order_summary['order_total']; ?>

    I placed it at the bottom of my tpl_checkout_success_default.php file.

    code:
    <!-- Google Code for Purchase/Sale Conversion Page -->
    <script type="text/javascript">
    /* <![CDATA[ */
    var google_conversion_id = xxxxxxxxxx;
    var google_conversion_language = "en";
    var google_conversion_format = "3";
    var google_conversion_color = "ffffff";
    var google_conversion_label = "FDn3COeWQxCbr7__Aw";
    var google_conversion_value = <?php echo $order_summary['order_total']; ?>;
    var google_conversion_currency = "USD";
    var google_remarketing_only = false;
    /* ]]> */
    </script>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="//www.googleadservices.com/pagead/conversion.js">
    </script>
    <noscript>
    <div style="display:inline;">
    <img height="1" width="1" style="border-style:none;" alt="" src="//www.googleadservices.com/pagead/conversion/xxxxxxxxxx/?value=<?php echo $order_summary['order_total']; ?>&amp;currency_code=USD&amp;label=FDn3COeWQxCbr7__Aw&amp;guid=ON&amp;script=0"/>
    </div>
    </noscript>

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    Default Re: Simple Google Analytics - Support

    Quote Originally Posted by thomaswhiteeagle View Post
    Here is the fix to get Google PPC conversion tracking working without using the simple google analytics module, for anyone perhaps ever facing an issue similar to mine. The background on it is since we upgrade to zen 1.5x series our tracking stopped working. Haven't been able to figure out why. econcepts was going to look into it for us but simply doesn't appear to have the time as we've been waiting for about a month now. But since our site is a production site that relies heavily on Google PPC having the tracking data is critical to us. SO I dug back into our files for code we'd manually used in the past that had worked and found this and modified it for current use and voila it is working correctly. Basically it is the exact code provided by google (replace the "x's" in my code with your id provided by google or better yet simply copy the code google gives you and replace the order value information)

    It may or may not work for you were using it on latest version of zen cart, eg, 1.5x series.
    always backup your files before making any changes, you've been warned, :)

    simply put this is the code provided by google. what makes it work is replacing the var google conversion value part with this: var google_conversion_value = <?php echo $order_summary['order_total']; ?>; - also will not track properly if you don't have in the noscript area this part as shown below: value=<?php echo $order_summary['order_total']; ?>

    I placed it at the bottom of my tpl_checkout_success_default.php file.

    code:
    <!-- Google Code for Purchase/Sale Conversion Page -->
    <script type="text/javascript">
    /* <=!=[=C=D=A=T=A=[ */
    var google_conversion_id = xxxxxxxxxx;
    var google_conversion_language = "en";
    var google_conversion_format = "3";
    var google_conversion_color = "ffffff";
    var google_conversion_label = "FDn3COeWQxCbr7__Aw";
    var google_conversion_value = <?php echo $order_summary['order_total']; ?>;
    var google_conversion_currency = "USD";
    var google_remarketing_only = false;
    /* ]=]=> */
    </script>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="//www.googleadservices.com/pagead/conversion.js">
    </script>
    <noscript>
    <div style="display:inline;">
    <img height="1" width="1" style="border-style:none;" alt="" src="//www.googleadservices.com/pagead/conversion/xxxxxxxxxx/?value=<?php echo $order_summary['order_total']; ?>&currency_code=USD&label=FDn3COeWQxCbr7__Aw&guid=ON&script=0"/>
    </div>
    </noscript>
    Thomas, this will potentially only work for your site. Reason being, it has a tracking label in it that is set to your conversion id. The other thing to note here is that the "xxxxxxxx" spot should be dynamically filled in by the program itself (already) so manually filling that in might have potential problems at some point. That field is controlled by the Admin section of the plugin.

    I just finished the updated version of this mod (a long time in the making as work here has been busy) and installed on a few sites. It works with all versions of zen cart (forward and backward compatible) It has completely been updated to adhere to all new Google features including a good number of features that many are not aware of within Google Analytics (but that are very important to increasing sales.)

    I'll make a link available for the new version here to download shortly. Likewise, I'll be uploading the package after providing the link to the Zen cart plugin section.
    Eric
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    Zen Cart contribs: Simple Google Analytics, Export Shipping Information

 

 
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