thanks... that makes a lot of sense... will do that

I am battling to get new pages in the define pages editor of my admin though so.....found this that you gave someone else
am going to try it first to create new page and I think it will be easier then to reference to that page

Create/clone these as page_5
/includes/modules/pages/page_2/header_php.php
/includes/languages/english/page_2.php
/includes/templates/template_default/templates/tpl_page_2_default.php

Add/edit these to include page_5
/includes/modules/sideboxes/more_information.php
/includes/languages/english.php
/includes/filenames.php

Create define_page_5.php in both of these folders
/includes/languages/html_includes
/includes/languages/html_includes/your_template

This should net you a generic page_5 in the "More Information" sidebox

You can then begin using this in your overrides areas