basics

[Ryk]

I know nothing - and I'm not interested in random sites; I'm curious as to what you do with ZenCart.

[jagguy]

I haven't seen many sites like zencart around to be honest. A lot I have seen have all sorts of different layouts. I wouldn't stick with a zencart layout and claim ecommerce solved as it is much more complicated than that. With zencart links though that seems to solve most bases.

You wouldn't just sell apples at a fruit store !

Look at http://www.citysoftware.com.au which is more common than you think with its layout.

[barco57]

huh I didn't see anything on city software that I can't do with a base install of ZC. In fact I could probably reproduce their site in an afternoon with regards to the layout. Please point me to something unique about their layout. Lets see 100% width store, 3 columns on most page, 2 columns on some, move navMain under catTabs, turn on cart sidebox, add a couple custom sideboxes, lots of ezpages links,.....like I said nothing an afternoon wouldn't solve. The only thing I wouldn't reproduce of their site is the nested table structure everywhere......we've moved on to better practices. There may be a couple of little things that would require some custom code in some module/template files but nothing that can't be overcome. So please give me a better examples of something that is more common than I think...I don't mean to be an a$$ here but I thought you were coming up with the next best thing and your example is the same old thing....been done. I know someone is going to tell me to lighten up but I think we are having a constructive conversation......

[jagguy]

Well the city software was done by a relative of mine using asp and 4 other people for 6 months. He was paid a lot of money to do it and it took many hours to do. The thing is very complicated and calls other servers with data.


You can't add php/flash to zencart structure for dynamic content as the ezpages are mysql data fields.


You can't add php/flash/ajax easily to the structure and that is the bottom line. To say you have no need is not really worth commenting on.

Thats enough for me on the topic .

[Ryk]

It's obvious that you are not happy because ZenCart (free, open source) doesn't do exactly what you want to do in the way that you want to do it (even though it satisfies the needs of thousands upon thousands of users) so there's your answer; have a word with your relative.

Well the city software was done by a relative of mine using asp and 4 other people for 6 months. He was paid a lot of money to do it and it took many hours to do. The thing is very complicated and calls other servers with data.

Surely he'll do you as good deal?

On the other hand, if you're not prepared to put your money where your mouth is for something that exactly fits your needs, quit moaning that free software doesn't fit your personal desire, and put your abilities to work making it do what you want. Or find another shopping cart.

[Ryk]

I've received your PM jagguy and, as you declare you've added me to your ignore list, the only way I can point out your inaccuracies is to publish it here (and I apologise to the rest of the community for this.)

Will you stop moaning about web development. All you do is complain that you have no need for common web technology and what rubbish you have ben told. You can't make money with that attitude?

What are you talking about? I didn't mention web development, I haven't complained about not needing common web technology - and as for making money - who mentioned that? Not me.

I was trying to help because i see you didn't know much about it at all.
You obviously don't know much about the field other than the narrow world of zencart. If you look on the web you will seen dynamic websites and NOT hardcoded similar looking clones.

Even if the above was true -so what? This is the narrow world of ZenCart (how many downloads was it ? 500,000+ )

Look up the word dynamic websites and what php,flash,ajax is?

Zencart is a beginners product that doesn't allow dynamic web development as told be me from others here. It is what it is just a simple tool.

If it's not for you, don't waste your time - or ours by refusing to pay any attention to what is said.

I want to know more about zencart because it has a good add on but it ISN't a way to develop whole sites.

Oh no! That's bad news for the thousands of ZenCarts owners out there that are very happy with what THEY consider to be a complete solution to their online needs.

You just went out of your way to insult me, over somethig you need more help on than me. If all you can do is moan than forget about replying because I have you on my ignore list, so you now I can't see your replies.

Ummm - no I didn't; I pointed out that you were coming across as someone who was unhappy with Zencart because it won't do exactly what you want, and suggested you went elsewhere for something that better fits your requirements.

Admittedly, there may be a little sarcasm here and there, but I don't think I have actually insulted you at any point.

[gjh42]

"You can't add php/flash/ajax easily to the structure and that is the bottom line."

Umm... what about all the ZC users (some quite novice) who have done just that? (Search on flash.)

You can't do it in the way you were trying to. I suggest spending a bit of time finding out the correct way.

[Merlinpa1969]

hey Jagguy,
I hate to totally burst your bubble but take a look at
www.moissaniteco.com


there is ALOT of really kool stuff added to this and guess what, its a ZC.

ZC does work with php,

If you want to add a page with YOUR content,
then you need to create 3 pages and 1 folder

folder
includes/modules/pages/YOUR PAGE NAME
file
includes/modules/pages/YOUR PAGE NAME/header.php
includes/languages/YOUR LANGUAGE/page_name.php
includes/templates/YOUR TEMPLATE/tpl_your pagename_default.php
includes/extra_datafiles/yourpage_filenames.php

you know have a new page with your content,
adding flash is about as easy as adding graphics,

and java can be added using DrBytes auto loaders

so every thing that you have been wondering can be donw with actually little effort.

and for further reference
http://www.zen-cart.com/book

and Please dont send me a nasty PM,

I am not flaming you I am simply answering your questions to the best of my ability, pointing out the flaws in your statement and providing details and examples

Merlin

[TinaS]

My Turn - look guys Tina's Back :)

OK Topic at hand here - Jagguy - you need to learn a little more yourself - and stop labeling those of us using Zen as not knowing as much as you.

I'll be the first to admit - i know NOTHING about PHP Code myself, or Java, or Ajax - but I DO KNOW that I can pop any of those into a zen cart and have it work perfectly.

All you need to do - very SIMPLE - click DOWNLOAD above - and then oh heck - here this is the URL to where I was sending you :
http://www.zen-cart.com/index.php?ma...roducts_id=182


This is the "basic structure" of creating a new page in zen. I have used it over and over and I have embedded TONS of other PHP scripts into my zens - TONS MORE of Flash(that's a no brainer - surprising that someone as smart as you can't figure it out) and plenty of customizations.

You simply need to further your knowledge to get what you want - and stop slamming those who are trying to help you.

OK - I came back - I made my first post - and of course it'll piss some one off - but oh well - sometimes ppl just gotta stand up for what they believe :)

[jagguy]

Hi,
I am quite happy with ZC with the way you can link in and out of an ecommerce section, this makes integrating websites dead simple and flexible. That was my main concern but has been solved yesterday.

To do it this php in a ZC requires files I am confused about.
If I create a file called myone.php then i create a folder called MYONE.




then you need to create 3 pages and 1 folder

folder
includes/modules/pages/YOUR PAGE NAME
file
includes/modules/pages/YOUR PAGE NAME/header.php
includes/languages/YOUR LANGUAGE/page_name.php
includes/templates/YOUR TEMPLATE/tpl_your pagename_default.php
includes/extra_datafiles/yourpage_filenames.php

what is header.php, page_name.php,tpl_your and pagename_default.php,yourpage_filenames.php ?

That is 4 files ontop of my own file I want displayed. So are these files just found elsewhere and you copy and paste or I need to create?

What goes in these files exactly and how can I call it from ZC ( what file do I call)?

thanks