font size changes in left column when on SSL???

[Beth-katherine]

Thank you Rob for the feedback.

Yes it was the template, Cherry-Zen, as I tested the other templates and the problem didn't happen. I think it has something to do with the way Jade designed it to expand or contract as the viewer needed to change the font size. While looking at the site with Cherry-Zen on Safari I was shocked to see how different it was than with Foxfire. I asked Jade about the font changing and she said I probably had an open H3 somewhere but since I haven't change the code I have no idea where so am switching back to another template where the problem doesn't happen.

Pity it's a nice design.



Beth-Katherine

[rstevenson]

Hi Beth-Katherine,

If you think it's just something simple like an open tag, go to a page that shows the problem in your browser, copy the URL and then go to the XHTML validator at w3.org and paste in that URL to validate. The result should tell you where the problem tag is. Then you can track it down fairly easily in your various php files.

Or if you use a programmer's editor that validates the code, you can copy and paste the page code (view source in your browser) right into the editor and find the problem there. (I use BBEdit in Mac OS -- don't know what Windows editor to suggest.)

If you still have that template up, give me the URL of a problem page and I'll track down the problem for you. I've had so much help from others here I like to give back when I can.

Rob

[Beth-katherine]

Thank you for the offer to help.

The problem is not consistent with the same page it just happens all of a sudden. I tested it just now and the first two page choices came up with the right sized font but then the next two page choices came up big and then the next came back to small. Really freaky.

I tried to validate the code but all that came back were complaints about my use of the & without the proper coded way of presenting it.

Perhaps you'll have better luck

http://smockingbooks.com/index.php?m...e=index&cPath=

Thanks for the help,

Beth-Katherine

[rstevenson]

Verrrryyyy interestingggggg...

There is an odd little character at the very top of the code in that page (and you can see it at the top-left of the page in your browser if you squint), with similar odd characters down at the bottom in your copyright notices...

Site designed by Beth-Katherine Kaiman Copyright � 2007
Some graphics are Copyright � 2007 by Graphic Garden

Those last two can be written as "©" in your defines. You probably used just the copyright character itself when you edited the defines. Look for define('FOOTER_TEXT_BODY' in your english.php file.

The doctype declaration at the top of your page code comes from the html_header.php file. Check it out to see if there is a stray character above the doctype declaration in that file.

When I copy the code of your page into my editor and delete that odd character at the top, the number of errors drops from 76 to 21, then down to 18 when I fix the bottom 2.

Most of the other errors, as you say, are not serious: you can always type in "&" instead of the "&" character when you're entering text in product names and descriptions, if you wish. That would get rid of many of the errors but those errors are not affecting the visual rendering of the page.

You need (and this is much more serious as it will affect page rendering) to use the correct form of break tag when you're entering description or other text. HTML allows <br> tags but XHTML, which is what Zen Cart uses now, requires the form <br />. You can see this on your page, where you say

Welcome to our garden! <br>Within these pages ...

Those need to be corrected because they cause further errors and can confuse browsers.

One more thing: up in your Search box, the code reads, in part...

<input type="search"

"Search" is not a type for input and that throws another error. This won't affect your page visually, but the more errors you can get rid of, the better. Is that a mod?


I have the feeling that if you go back and fix the code, and do a little corrective editing in your text, the visual problem will likely go away.

Let me know how things go after you do these things.

Rob

[FrenchFrog]

Rob

here are 2 screenshots of your site from Saf and Fox, let me know what you think of this "visual problem":

www.pixclinic.com/SafariScreenSnapz006.jpg
www.pixclinic.com/FirefoxScreenSnapz003.jpg

any non XHTML tags in your pages ?

[rstevenson]

I don't see that much difference in my Safari and Firefox, though I could certainly reproduce it by changing some of the settings in them.

Are you sure that both browsers you're using are set to their default states, just as they were when they were installed? If you use either as your regular browser it's easy to make a little change in the prefs and forget about it.

At any rate, be assured that my site doesn't look that different in different browsers - really! I check in several browsers as I develop, then habitually check my sites whenever I'm near someone else's computer. They (and every other site in the world) do render a little differently in different browsers -- that's the nature of the web at this point in its development. I don't worry about it.

any non XHTML tags in your pages?

None that I noticed. But that doesn't mean that the next time I edit something they won't slip in -- again!

Rob

[Beth-katherine]

[quote=rstevenson;433005]Verrrryyyy interestingggggg...

There is an odd little character at the very top of the code in that page (and you can see it at the top-left of the page in your browser if you squint), with similar odd characters down at the bottom in your copyright notices...>>

I can see it now but haven't a clue where it is. I've included my total Header file at the end so maybe you can see where it is. This is from the Chery-Zen files.


<<Those last two can be written as "&copy;" in your defines. You probably used just the copyright character itself when you edited the defines. Look for define('FOOTER_TEXT_BODY' in your english.php file.>>

Ok I fixed that problem and got rid of the <br> and added in a bullet (coded properly)

<<The doctype declaration at the top of your page code comes from the html_header.php file. Check it out to see if there is a stray character above the doctype declaration in that file.>>

Where do I find the "html_header.php" file?

<<One more thing: up in your Search box, the code reads, in part... "Search" is not a type for input and that throws another error. This won't affect your page visually, but the more errors you can get rid of, the better. Is that a mod?>>

This is straight from Chery-Zen template. What should I change "search" to that would make sense.


My header file

<?php

/**

* @package languageDefines

* @copyright Copyright 2003-2006 Zen Cart Development Team

* @copyright Portions Copyright 2003 osCommerce

* @license http://www.zen-cart.com/license/2_0.txt GNU Public License V2.0

* @version $Id: header.php 2940 2006-02-02 04:29:05Z drbyte $

*/



// header text in includes/header.php

define('HEADER_TITLE_CREATE_ACCOUNT', 'Create Account');

define('HEADER_TITLE_MY_ACCOUNT', 'My Account');

define('HEADER_TITLE_CART_CONTENTS', 'Shopping Cart');

define('HEADER_TITLE_CHECKOUT', 'Checkout');

define('HEADER_TITLE_TOP', 'Top');

define('HEADER_TITLE_CATALOG', 'Home');

define('HEADER_TITLE_LOGOFF', 'Log Out');

define('HEADER_TITLE_LOGIN', 'Log In or Register');



// added defines for header alt and text

define('HEADER_ALT_TEXT', 'Garden Fairies Trading Company');

define('HEADER_SALES_TEXT', 'Smocking, Heirloom Sewing, Silk Ribbon Embroidery &amp; Other Forms of Needlework Arts');

define('HEADER_LOGO_WIDTH', '352px');

define('HEADER_LOGO_HEIGHT', '86px');

define('HEADER_LOGO_IMAGE', 'logo.jpg');



// header Search Button/Box Search Button

define('HEADER_SEARCH_BUTTON','Search');

define('HEADER_SEARCH_DEFAULT_TEXT', 'Enter search keywords here');



?>


Beth-Katherine

[Beth-katherine]

I found that little sucker '

It was hiding in my languages/english/index.php file on the very top. Somehow during the reloading of my database fiasco that file must have bene corrupted.

This is what was on the very top of the file

`<?php

and this is what it should be

<?php

Thank you Rob for pointing it out now the font changing problem is fixed and all is well.

Now onto uploading 4,000 more products and I'm done,

Beth-katherine

[rstevenson]

<<One more thing: up in your Search box, the code reads, in part... "Search" is not a type for input and that throws another error. This won't affect your page visually, but the more errors you can get rid of, the better. Is that a mod?>>

This is straight from Chery-Zen template. What should I change "search" to that would make sense.

Here's the error as reported by my validator.

Value of attribute “type” for element “<input>” is invalid; Value must be one of {“text”,“password”,“checkbox”,“radio”,“submit”,“reset”, “file”,“hidden”,“image”,“button”}.

I believe the correct type for this sort of input element is "text". Try it and see if the search box is still working right. If not, you may have to ask the Cherry Zen developer why it's set to a non-standard value.

Glad you found that little guy and fixed the text-size issue.

Rob