Atrribute weight problem - help!?

[magneteye]

Ok, I have my options as follows:

small
medium
large

All products come in the same containers, and same sizes, but their actual weight varies.

When I apply these attributes to my product it lets me put in its weight. This weight is shipping weight. What I need is to be able to display the actual product weight by volume for my product as well.

I need the customer to select size, and also see what the weight of the product is, not shipping weight, in that drop down.

Any thoughts?

I wish it had TWO weight options when I added my attributes and the ACTUAL product weight would display along with the size in the dropdown menu, and the shipping weight would be used for shipping calculation.

[schoolboy]

You may have to include the product weight in each product's description text.

[magneteye]

The problem is I have a product, all product info is on the one page, and the customer selects their size from the dropdown menu. When they make their selection I need it to show the actual product weight so they know what they are getting.

for example one product might be as follows:

Small Jar - 1.2oz ($5.75)

while another might be:

Small Jar - 2.3oz ($8.75)

All products have the same sizes (small, medium, large) but their actual weight by volume varies.

I need the cart to calculate actual shipping weight (product plus weight of container).

[Ajeh]

Add Product
Product is Priced by Attribute: Yes
Product Price: 0.00
Product Weight: 0.00

Option Name Manager
Option Name: Jar Size
Option Type: Dropdown

Option Value Manager
Option Name: Jar Size
Option Value Name: Small Jar
Option Sort Order: 10

Option Name: Jar Size
Option Value Name: Medium Jar
Option Sort Order: 20

Attributes Controller
Option Name: Jar Size
Option Value: Small Jar
Sort Order: 10 (or use auto update when done)
Prefix: blank
Price: 5.75
Weight Prefix: blank
Weight: 0.075 (1.2 oz in pounds)

Option Name: Jar Size
Option Value: Medium Jar
Sort Order: 20 (or use auto update when done)
Prefix: blank
Price: 8.75
Weight Prefix: blank
Weight: 0.1437 (2.3 oz in pounds)


To ensure the right size is chosen you can add:
Option Name: Jar Size
Option Value: Pick a Size (or whatever your wording)
Sort Order: 0
Price and weight blank
Default: YES
Display Only: YES

That will force a choice of the Small or Medium Jar ...

[magneteye]

Hmm. I don't think thats what I am asking for. I have no problem adding all the sizes and prices and weights. The issue is that the shipping weight and the actual product weight differ.

I input its shipping weight in the attributes controller, but now I also need the drop down menu to display "Size - Weight ($Price)" in the dropdown. The weight displayed in the dropdown being the product weight by volume, not the total shipping weight (product weight+jar weight).

Reason is we have set jar sizes (s,m,l) but the product we put into them varies. One product will hold 1.2oz in a small jar, while another holds 2oz in a jar. We need the customer to know the actual weight of product by volume they are purchasing.

So I am really stuck here on what to do.

[Ajeh]

If you are trying to have the Product hold the weight and the Attribute read: 2oz or 2.5oz ... you have to determin the difference between text and actual weight ...

As weight, it needs to be entered in pounds where 1 ounce is .0625 ...

If you want this as text on the attributes, you could build Option Names with the sizes of
2oz
3oz
2.5oz

If you don't want real weight on Attributes to display you can turn those off as well ...

[magneteye]

Ok, but does that mean I need to create say 50+ different names for all the small sizes and different weights? like...

small - 1.2 oz
small - 2.1 oz
small - 3.2 oz
small - 1.3 oz
small - 3.1 oz

and so on?

I don't want to do that, I have 6 sizes, and like 50+ different weights per size!

If all the small sizes had the same weight, it would be simple and I could just add the "weight" text to the name. My problem is I have 50+ items that each have a different weight by volume, but same "size" as I have shown above.

I just really need a place to add some text to the individual product attributes so the customer knows what they are getting.


FYI: What's going on here is our product is salt, and some are light and fluffy and some and more dense so the weights will always vary, but we still use small, medium, and large jar sizes. We need to let the customer the actual amount of salt they are getting.

I am getting this feeling it can't be done unless i somehow had an field where I could just add a piece of text like "1.2oz" and then it would attach it to the text in the dropdown with its size and price; if that makes sense.

[RossMosh]

Add it to the product description? You could also add it as a ReadOnly. I'm sure some of the weights per salt are the same. It would save you a bit of work as you can copy some of it to different products?

[magneteye]

Yeah, I know I could put in all the sizes and actual weights into the product description, but obviously I want to avoid it and have it done the right way. It really should just have it there when you click on the drop down menu, you should see size, weight, and price of what you are purchasing.

I wonder if there is someway to add a new text field into the attributes controller, so when I add the price and weight there is one more box to insert any text I want, I could put in weight and on the product page it would "attach" that field to the text in the drop down as Size - Weight - Price, weight being the new field.

*frustration kicks in*


look here for an example: http://www.salttraders.com/Detail.bok?no=13

see how it has jar size, but net weight is different? they use same jar sizes but net weights all vary by product.

[RossMosh]

I understand what you are saying. I'd say most likely whomever did that work typed in the net weight in the size description. It's going to suck to type in all that data, but to get the look you are looking for, it seems the easiest method when working within Zen-Cart.