cUrl - says SSL not installed - do I need it?

[klog]

Hi all,
I am encountering a similar issue with cURL. I currently have 2 Zencart installations on the same server, 1 install is 1.3.8, and 2nd install is 1.2.7.
Both working installs report that cURL (libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8b zlib/1.2.3 libidn/0.6.5) is installed and enabled (zencart-admin/tools/server info).
Now I am trying to update my 1.2.7 install to 1.3.8, however when going to zc_install I am getting RED messages indicating cURL/SSL issues. I do NOT have a SSL, don't need one (as far as I know). I plan on using PayPal as my payment processor, therefore I believe the only security SSL issues are their worry, not mine.
So, why is zc_install telling me I have a cURL/SSL problem? Should I ignore them and just go on with the install? & hope for the best?
Thanks,
Kevin

ZC_Install messages:
# CURL problems detected: 6 => name lookup timed out more info...
# CURL requires SSL support. Please notify webmaster or hosting company. 6 => name lookup timed out more info...
# CURL problems detected: 7 => couldn't connect to host more info...
# CURL requires SSL support. Please notify webmaster or hosting company. 7 => couldn't connect to host

[DrByte]

# CURL problems detected: 6 => name lookup timed out more info...
# CURL problems detected: 7 => couldn't connect to host more info...

These mean that your CURL setup cannot talk to external servers. Thus it's basically useless to you in its current state.

As for SSL, when it says that CURL requires SSL, it doesn't mean that you need an SSL certificate for your domain. It means that your CURL configuration on the server is unable to communicate via SSL because it's not been setup/compiled with SSL support. It uses SSL to talk to external servers securely.

[klog]

Hi DrByte,
Thanks for the reply. But I am not really concerned with the SSL issue, just threw that in as it is part of the error message.
What I AM trying to determine is why I am getting the error messages RE cURL during a new install, when in fact I currently have one ZenCart install (v.1.3.8) that is working absolutely fine, including PayPal Express (cURL dependant) on the SAME exact server. Additionally the admin/tools/server info reports that cURL is enabled and working.
Further, on the same exact server I have a ZenCart 1.2.7 install (the install I wish to upgrade) that admin/tools/server info ALSO reports that cURL is enabled & working.
So the issue is why am I getting the error messages RE cURL during the ZenCart 1.3.8 install on a server that HAS cURL installed, enabled & working. Are the error messages actually only being triggered by the lack of SSL, and there is no cURL issue on my server?

Thanks again,
Kevin

Hi all,
I am encountering a similar issue with cURL. I currently have 2 Zencart installations on the same server, 1 install is 1.3.8, and 2nd install is 1.2.7.
Both working installs report that cURL (libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8b zlib/1.2.3 libidn/0.6.5) is installed and enabled (zencart-admin/tools/server info).
Now I am trying to update my 1.2.7 install to 1.3.8, however when going to zc_install I am getting RED messages indicating cURL/SSL issues. I do NOT have a SSL, don't need one (as far as I know). I plan on using PayPal as my payment processor, therefore I believe the only security SSL issues are their worry, not mine.
So, why is zc_install telling me I have a cURL/SSL problem? Should I ignore them and just go on with the install? & hope for the best?
Thanks,
Kevin

ZC_Install messages:
# CURL problems detected: 6 => name lookup timed out more info...
# CURL requires SSL support. Please notify webmaster or hosting company. 6 => name lookup timed out more info...
# CURL problems detected: 7 => couldn't connect to host more info...
# CURL requires SSL support. Please notify webmaster or hosting company. 7 => couldn't connect to host

[klog]

Followup: Read another post (http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82262) that is same issue as mine. So my apologies for starting a redundant thread.
That said, it doesn't seem to me that this issue (which quite a few are having) has been solved.
I ran cURL test: http://kevinlogan.com/gallery2/purch...s/curltest.php
with these results:
You submitted the following fields and data:
Array
(
[field1] => This is a test
[statuskey] => ready
)
Data validation
Good
Other Info
Your server IP address is: 207.210.72.202.
user-agent: unknown.
Array
(
[url] => "http://www.zen-cart.com/testcurl.php"
[content_type] => text/html
[http_code] => 200
[header_size] => 139
[request_size] => 174
[filetime] => -1
[ssl_verify_result] => 0
[redirect_count] => 0
[total_time] => 0.990603
[namelookup_time] => 0.944773
[connect_time] => 0.965885
[pretransfer_time] => 0.965916
[size_upload] => 0
[size_download] => 2142
[speed_download] => 2162
[speed_upload] => 0
[download_content_length] => 0
[upload_content_length] => 0
[starttransfer_time] => 0.99044
[redirect_time] => 0
)
So, is cURL working on this sever? (seems 2 b) Or Not?
If it is, why am I getting the error messages RE cURL
when trying to make a new install of ZC v.1.3.8?
Thanks again,
Kevin

[DrByte]

The only difference in code between the installer and the curltest script is the timeout ... the installer waits only 4 seconds for a response, and curltest waits up to 15 seconds. Otherwise they're identical.

So ... since you're satisfied that curltest works fine ... just carry on with the installer as if the curl tests had passed fine. I don't think a curl failure is treated as fatal yet.

But keep in mind that for some reason your server is processing curl requests quite slowly ... which could be a sign of other slownesses you may run into.
{insert defense of choice of current hosting provider here}

[klog]

Thanks DrByte, A little slow I can live with. Knowing that I am not doing someting BAD is a good recipe for a good night's sleep. FYI, I ran the curltest again quite a few times, and it typically ran a little over 0.1 seconds, so I guess I can (and my potential customers) can live with that.
Cheers & all the best,
Kevin

The only difference in code between the installer and the curltest script is the timeout ... the installer waits only 4 seconds for a response, and curltest waits up to 15 seconds. Otherwise they're identical.

So ... since you're satisfied that curltest works fine ... just carry on with the installer as if the curl tests had passed fine. I don't think a curl failure is treated as fatal yet.

But keep in mind that for some reason your server is processing curl requests quite slowly ... which could be a sign of other slownesses you may run into.
{insert defense of choice of current hosting provider here}