Im finding that the UPS module isnt very accurate, at least when I compare my warehouse shipping cost, to what ZC determined.
Im up to $6 in 'handling' fees to be on par..so..how does this built in module do this?
Im finding that the UPS module isnt very accurate, at least when I compare my warehouse shipping cost, to what ZC determined.
Im up to $6 in 'handling' fees to be on par..so..how does this built in module do this?
A 6lb package gives me at ups.com going from Ohio 44026 to Texas 77001 ...
I have my Maximum Weight set to 50 and my Tare for 0:0 ...
UPS says ...
Zen Cart says ...Service Guaranteed By Total
UPS Next Day Air Early A.M.® 8:00 A.M.,
Friday
March 6, 2009 98.83 USD*
Ship
Days In Transit: 1 Billable Weight:
6.0 lbs.
UPS Next Day Air® 10:30 A.M.,
Friday
March 6, 2009 67.52 USD*
Ship
Days In Transit: 1 Billable Weight:
6.0 lbs.
UPS Next Day Air Saver® By End of Day,
Friday
March 6, 2009 60.90 USD*
Ship
Days In Transit: 1 Billable Weight:
6.0 lbs.
UPS 2nd Day Air® By End of Day,
Saturday
March 7, 2009 50.05 USD*
Ship
Days In Transit: Saturday Billable Weight:
6.0 lbs.
UPS 2nd Day Air® By End of Day,
Monday
March 9, 2009 34.90 USD*
Ship
Days In Transit: 2 Billable Weight:
6.0 lbs.
UPS 3 Day Select® By End of Day,
Tuesday
March 10, 2009 23.89 USD*
Ship
Days In Transit: 3 Billable Weight:
6.0 lbs.
UPS Ground By End of Day,
Wednesday
March 11, 2009 12.74 USD*
Ship
Days In Transit: 4 Billable Weight:
6.0 lbs.
What version Zen Cart are you using?United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Early AM) $98.83
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air) $67.52
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Saver) $60.90
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (2nd Day Air) $34.90
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (3 Day Select) $23.89
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Ground) $12.74
What settings are you using on UPS shipping module?
Linda McGrath
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United Parcel Service
Enable UPS Shipping
True
UPS Pickup Method
RDP
UPS Packaging?
CP
Residential Delivery?
RES
Handling Fee
6
Tax Class
Taxable Goods
Tax Basis
Shipping
Shipping Zone
--none--
Sort order of display.
0
Shipping Methods:
Nxt AM, Nxt AM Ltr, Nxt, Nxt Ltr, Nxt PR, Nxt Save, Nxt Save Ltr, 2nd AM, 2nd AM Ltr, 2nd, 2nd Ltr, 3 Day Select, Ground, Canada,World Xp, World Xp Ltr, World Xp Plus, World Xp Plus Ltr, World Expedite
1DM, 1DML, 1DA, 1DAL, 1DAPI, 1DP, 1DPL, 2DM, 2DML, 2DA, 2DAL, 3DS, GND, STD, XPR, XPRL, XDM, XDML, XPD
The RDP setting will drop the prices considerably on the quote:
Verses the setting of: CCUnited Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Early AM) $90.70
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air) $59.39
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Saver) $53.33
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (2nd Day Air) $28.13
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (3 Day Select) $19.09
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Ground) $9.40
See if this is where the problem is on the settings that you are using ...United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Early AM) $98.83
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air) $67.52
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Saver) $60.90
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (2nd Day Air) $34.90
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (3 Day Select) $23.89
United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Ground) $12.74
Linda McGrath
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Linda:
Just processed a new order, where the manufacturer that drop ships it has it as a 12lbs box going residential to Colorado Springs, CO 80918, and this also has insurance for orders over $100.
Their UPS computer put this at $18.02, the break down is:
$13.95
+ 1.95 for the Declared Value
+ 2.12 for the residential price
ZC/UPS gave the customer $14.85 with these settings, was a 10lb box in my settings:
Enable UPS Shipping
True
UPS Pickup Method
CC
UPS Packaging?
CP
Residential Delivery?
RES
Handling Fee
2
Tax Class
Taxable Goods
Tax Basis
Shipping
Shipping Zone
--none--
Sort order of display.
0
Shipping Methods:
Nxt AM, Nxt AM Ltr, Nxt, Nxt Ltr, Nxt PR, Nxt Save, Nxt Save Ltr, 2nd AM, 2nd AM Ltr, 2nd, 2nd Ltr, 3 Day Select, Ground, Canada,World Xp, World Xp Ltr, World Xp Plus, World Xp Plus Ltr, World Expedite
1DM, 1DML, 1DA, 1DAL, 1DAPI, 1DP, 1DPL, 2DM, 2DML, 2DA, 2DAL, 3DS, GND, STD, XPR, XPRL, XDM, XDML, XPD
So..if everything was equal, and I wasnt adding in the insurnace cost, I should have only lost $1.95, but Im still way off.
The 2lbs I was off, was only a 40-cent difference, which leaves about a $1 difference.
How can I tell the ZC UPS module about insurance costs at the very least?
If you set your products to 10lbs but the dropshipper is 12lbs you are going to be short ...
Maybe you should just add 2 or 3 lbs on the Tare to account for the weight differences on the packaging ...
There is also an add-on for Insurance that might help you on this ...
Linda McGrath
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The UPS module is driving me crazy too. I don't think it's figuring my zip code into the calculations. It costs MORE to ship to my own state than it does to the far zone. If I up the handling fee, the shipping costs are outrageous close to home but they're never enough for the other coast. (we're in FL). I think it's using generic calculations from somewhere in the middle.
I have a very large order on my list right now and the shipping to a far zone for an oversized box WITH a $2.50 handling fee included is $11. That's many dollars short of what it should be. I really really think something is wrong and I can't even ADJUST it so it will come out right because it's really screwy about how it's figuring the zones. This is maddening. I've been messing with this for awhile (months) and I think somebody needs to look into the UPS module and see if something has gone wrong. I absolutely KNOW that I can't trust it. The far zones are WAY WAY off, consistently. I am losing money on shipping, there's no doubt about it. I have tweaked this module every way possible, installed it and uninstalled it over and over. I do not trust it.
Cyndy
Also... I've been using the same weights for years. I've checked the weights on my products and they're right. I've even increased the weights on some products, significantly, but the UPS rates continue to turn out very low. It doesn't seem to be able to figure anything over $12. Everything, absolutely everything, is under $13. This is throwing off my international shipping quotes so the rates are coming out VERY high, because of how I've been fiddling with the weights so the UPS will come out right. So obviously the US Postal service is working fine. I get results out of them but UPS continues to quote at $11 for almost everything.
The UPS module finally did spit out a shipping quote over $13 this week. It quoted $35 for an average box to be shipped to MY own state. I might as well do all of this manually. It's driving me bonkers.
I did have one idea while I was "talking" about this... I decided to delete all other shipping modules in case there is a conflict of some kind. I had noticed conflicts with another shipping module one time (a moduled conflicted with the USPS module) so in case one of the modules I'm not using is causing some problems in the background, I deleted all but USPS and UPS. So we'll see if that makes a difference. It might.
Cyndy
daffy, what are the settings you have in the Configuration ... Shipping/Packaging?
What are the settings you have on the UPS and USPS shipping modules?
What is the Ship from address?
What is the Ship to address?
What is the weight of the products?
Is this a Clean install of Zen Cart or an Upgrade?
On the server, if you view the code for the files:
/includes/modules/shipping/ups.php
/includes/modules/shipping/usps.php
what do the IDs read for them?
Linda McGrath
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