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    Default How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    Im finding that the UPS module isnt very accurate, at least when I compare my warehouse shipping cost, to what ZC determined.


    Im up to $6 in 'handling' fees to be on par..so..how does this built in module do this?

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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    A 6lb package gives me at ups.com going from Ohio 44026 to Texas 77001 ...

    I have my Maximum Weight set to 50 and my Tare for 0:0 ...

    UPS says ...
    Service Guaranteed By Total
    UPS Next Day Air Early A.M.® 8:00 A.M.,
    Friday
    March 6, 2009 98.83 USD*

    Ship
    Days In Transit: 1 Billable Weight:
    6.0 lbs.
    UPS Next Day Air® 10:30 A.M.,
    Friday
    March 6, 2009 67.52 USD*

    Ship
    Days In Transit: 1 Billable Weight:
    6.0 lbs.
    UPS Next Day Air Saver® By End of Day,
    Friday
    March 6, 2009 60.90 USD*

    Ship
    Days In Transit: 1 Billable Weight:
    6.0 lbs.
    UPS 2nd Day Air® By End of Day,
    Saturday
    March 7, 2009 50.05 USD*

    Ship
    Days In Transit: Saturday Billable Weight:
    6.0 lbs.
    UPS 2nd Day Air® By End of Day,
    Monday
    March 9, 2009 34.90 USD*

    Ship
    Days In Transit: 2 Billable Weight:
    6.0 lbs.
    UPS 3 Day Select® By End of Day,
    Tuesday
    March 10, 2009 23.89 USD*

    Ship
    Days In Transit: 3 Billable Weight:
    6.0 lbs.
    UPS Ground By End of Day,
    Wednesday
    March 11, 2009 12.74 USD*

    Ship
    Days In Transit: 4 Billable Weight:
    6.0 lbs.
    Zen Cart says ...
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Early AM) $98.83
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air) $67.52
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Saver) $60.90
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (2nd Day Air) $34.90
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (3 Day Select) $23.89
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Ground) $12.74
    What version Zen Cart are you using?

    What settings are you using on UPS shipping module?
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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    United Parcel Service

    Enable UPS Shipping
    True

    UPS Pickup Method
    RDP

    UPS Packaging?
    CP

    Residential Delivery?
    RES

    Handling Fee
    6

    Tax Class
    Taxable Goods

    Tax Basis
    Shipping

    Shipping Zone
    --none--

    Sort order of display.
    0

    Shipping Methods:
    Nxt AM, Nxt AM Ltr, Nxt, Nxt Ltr, Nxt PR, Nxt Save, Nxt Save Ltr, 2nd AM, 2nd AM Ltr, 2nd, 2nd Ltr, 3 Day Select, Ground, Canada,World Xp, World Xp Ltr, World Xp Plus, World Xp Plus Ltr, World Expedite
    1DM, 1DML, 1DA, 1DAL, 1DAPI, 1DP, 1DPL, 2DM, 2DML, 2DA, 2DAL, 3DS, GND, STD, XPR, XPRL, XDM, XDML, XPD

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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    The RDP setting will drop the prices considerably on the quote:
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Early AM) $90.70
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air) $59.39
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Saver) $53.33
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (2nd Day Air) $28.13
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (3 Day Select) $19.09
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Ground) $9.40
    Verses the setting of: CC
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Early AM) $98.83
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air) $67.52
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Next Day Air Saver) $60.90
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (2nd Day Air) $34.90
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (3 Day Select) $23.89
    United Parcel Service (1 x 6.00lbs) (Ground) $12.74
    See if this is where the problem is on the settings that you are using ...
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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    Linda:

    Just processed a new order, where the manufacturer that drop ships it has it as a 12lbs box going residential to Colorado Springs, CO 80918, and this also has insurance for orders over $100.

    Their UPS computer put this at $18.02, the break down is:

    $13.95
    + 1.95 for the Declared Value
    + 2.12 for the residential price



    ZC/UPS gave the customer $14.85 with these settings, was a 10lb box in my settings:

    Enable UPS Shipping
    True

    UPS Pickup Method
    CC

    UPS Packaging?
    CP

    Residential Delivery?
    RES

    Handling Fee
    2

    Tax Class
    Taxable Goods

    Tax Basis
    Shipping

    Shipping Zone
    --none--

    Sort order of display.
    0

    Shipping Methods:
    Nxt AM, Nxt AM Ltr, Nxt, Nxt Ltr, Nxt PR, Nxt Save, Nxt Save Ltr, 2nd AM, 2nd AM Ltr, 2nd, 2nd Ltr, 3 Day Select, Ground, Canada,World Xp, World Xp Ltr, World Xp Plus, World Xp Plus Ltr, World Expedite
    1DM, 1DML, 1DA, 1DAL, 1DAPI, 1DP, 1DPL, 2DM, 2DML, 2DA, 2DAL, 3DS, GND, STD, XPR, XPRL, XDM, XDML, XPD




    So..if everything was equal, and I wasnt adding in the insurnace cost, I should have only lost $1.95, but Im still way off.

    The 2lbs I was off, was only a 40-cent difference, which leaves about a $1 difference.



    How can I tell the ZC UPS module about insurance costs at the very least?

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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    If you set your products to 10lbs but the dropshipper is 12lbs you are going to be short ...

    Maybe you should just add 2 or 3 lbs on the Tare to account for the weight differences on the packaging ...

    There is also an add-on for Insurance that might help you on this ...
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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    The UPS module is driving me crazy too. I don't think it's figuring my zip code into the calculations. It costs MORE to ship to my own state than it does to the far zone. If I up the handling fee, the shipping costs are outrageous close to home but they're never enough for the other coast. (we're in FL). I think it's using generic calculations from somewhere in the middle.

    I have a very large order on my list right now and the shipping to a far zone for an oversized box WITH a $2.50 handling fee included is $11. That's many dollars short of what it should be. I really really think something is wrong and I can't even ADJUST it so it will come out right because it's really screwy about how it's figuring the zones. This is maddening. I've been messing with this for awhile (months) and I think somebody needs to look into the UPS module and see if something has gone wrong. I absolutely KNOW that I can't trust it. The far zones are WAY WAY off, consistently. I am losing money on shipping, there's no doubt about it. I have tweaked this module every way possible, installed it and uninstalled it over and over. I do not trust it.

    Cyndy

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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    Also... I've been using the same weights for years. I've checked the weights on my products and they're right. I've even increased the weights on some products, significantly, but the UPS rates continue to turn out very low. It doesn't seem to be able to figure anything over $12. Everything, absolutely everything, is under $13. This is throwing off my international shipping quotes so the rates are coming out VERY high, because of how I've been fiddling with the weights so the UPS will come out right. So obviously the US Postal service is working fine. I get results out of them but UPS continues to quote at $11 for almost everything.

    The UPS module finally did spit out a shipping quote over $13 this week. It quoted $35 for an average box to be shipped to MY own state. I might as well do all of this manually. It's driving me bonkers.

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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    I did have one idea while I was "talking" about this... I decided to delete all other shipping modules in case there is a conflict of some kind. I had noticed conflicts with another shipping module one time (a moduled conflicted with the USPS module) so in case one of the modules I'm not using is causing some problems in the background, I deleted all but USPS and UPS. So we'll see if that makes a difference. It might.

    Cyndy

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    Default Re: How does the UPS module calculate shipping?

    daffy, what are the settings you have in the Configuration ... Shipping/Packaging?

    What are the settings you have on the UPS and USPS shipping modules?

    What is the Ship from address?

    What is the Ship to address?

    What is the weight of the products?

    Is this a Clean install of Zen Cart or an Upgrade?

    On the server, if you view the code for the files:
    /includes/modules/shipping/ups.php
    /includes/modules/shipping/usps.php

    what do the IDs read for them?
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