Edit Orders v4.0 Support Thread

[apollowilcox]

Strongly agree with cartwhat's comments above about (unnecessarily?) re-writing the product line. Especially for those of us using the Product Descriptions mod : http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42503, this re-write deletes the product descriptions previously saved. Would really appreciate if this plug-in could be adjusted to play nicely with the other.

[DivaVocals]

Strongly agree with cartwhat's comments above about (unnecessarily?) re-writing the product line. Especially for those of us using the Product Descriptions mod : http://www.zen-cart.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42503, this re-write deletes the product descriptions previously saved. Would really appreciate if this plug-in could be adjusted to play nicely with the other.

Strongly disagree that this is a REQUIRED/NEEDED modification..

You have modified the DEFAULT order process for YOUR store so that the product description is captured and therefore displayed on the invoice and packing slips.. Now your expectation is that Edit Orders which works WITH the DEFAULT order process should be modified so that it works with a modification that is NOT standard, and may not be of use for most Edit Orders users???

This is absolutely NOT the right course of action.. The change YOU NEED made to Edit Orders is one you will have to make yourself or seek community assistance to execute, but this change in NO WAY should be included in the Edit Orders core as the MAJORITY of users have not made this same modification (nor should they HAVE make it)..

[apollowilcox]

Easy...easy... Who said anything that this was a "required/needed" change? Or what my "expectations" are?

The only minor point that I was attempting to submit was that when code completely rewrites/overwrites records, it seems that it may increase the chance of having side effects that conflict with other mods. But that's my novice opinion (only supported by the fact that the product descriptions mod has been negatively impacted).

Your position that the best course of action is staying vanilla would undoubtedly keep life less complicated. I had no intent that my agreement with the other post would get me flamed. I surrender the forum to you divavocals.

[DivaVocals]

Easy...easy... Who said anything that this was a "required/needed" change? Or what my "expectations" are?

Well let's see.. I drew this conclusion from your own initial statement..

Would really appreciate if this plug-in could be adjusted to play nicely with the other.

Which appears to imply that a change to Edit Orders is needed to work with another modification you made to YOUR store..

The only minor point that I was attempting to submit was that when code completely rewrites/overwrites records, it seems that it may increase the chance of having side effects that conflict with other mods. But that's my novice opinion (only supported by the fact that the product descriptions mod has been negatively impacted).

A change to the edit_orders.php file is what is required to add in the functionality you've added to the default order process. Thus my point that it is not a change that needs to be made to Edit Orders in general, but a change you will need to make to your own store's Edit Orders implementation. Not everyone needs/wants the same changes you made.. Therefore they shouldn't be "forced" into the general Edit Orders code..

Your position that the best course of action is staying vanilla would undoubtedly keep life less complicated. I had no intent that my agreement with the other post would get me flamed. I surrender the forum to you divavocals.

Oh for goodness sakes.. REALLY???? Not an argument or a flame.. don't know why folks always assume that a different POV = argument or a flame.. **SMH**

[lhungil]

... The only minor point that I was attempting to submit was that when code completely rewrites/overwrites records, it seems that it may increase the chance of having side effects that conflict with other mods. ...

Exactly! When a modification changes the definition of a core Zen Cart database table or the processing / handling of data in a core Zen Cart database table, there is an increased risk of a conflict with other modifications. In addition, one needs to look for all other code using the same database table and also apply the modifications (to avoid issues).

The "Product Descriptions" modification changes the definition of a core Zen Cart database table. Since "Edit Orders" reads and writes from this table, users of the "Product Descriptions" modification will also need to apply the same changes to "Edit Orders" they applied to core Zen Cart files.


NOTE: Best practice in Zen Cart 1.5+ for writing a plugin (or modification) is to avoid changing any: core database tables, data formats used in core database tables, and core files. This helps avoid potential conflicts (and makes the modifications more likely to continue working in future versions of Zen Cart).

[jemmylien]

This message appears when permissions are not configured to allow the web server to delete those files. Give the web server access to delete those two files (via FTP, CPanel, etc). Afterwards run the installer again.

Hi, may i know how to give the web server access to delete those files..
i really have no idea. sorry.
Please help me, thanks.

[jemmylien]

ok. i manually delete those files which need to be deleted, cause even i set the 777 permission to these files, they still can not be deleted by the web browser. Also for those files need to be written, i set the permission to 777, and then it seems Edit Orders works well.

Not sure if there will be any problem in the future, if any one knows, please let me know. thank you.

[NDboots]

I just installed Edit Orders v4.0, in Zen Cart 1.5.0, I had some trouble with adding a coupon code with page going to white screen after the submit, but found a fix-it for that in this area of the form. But another problem cropped up that I can not find an answer for. I have a shipping insurance module installed. Before I installed Edit Orders v4.0, the correct shipping insurance amount was there. When I edited the order for the coupon code, the shipping insurance dropped down to $2.45, and although it allows me to retype in the correct amount, it just will not save to the database when I submit the amount, it remains at $2.45. All other amounts remain correct. But on top it says my submit was saved successfully. I have no error messages in debugging for this either. Why did this module change the shipping insurance amount, and why does it not save the correct amount when I try to resubmit it? Any suggestions to fix-it? I can't afford $2.45 insurance rate on larger orders like this.

[lhungil]

... I have a shipping insurance module installed. ... When I edited the order for the coupon code, the shipping insurance dropped down to $2.45, and although it allows me to retype in the correct amount, it just will not save to the database when I submit the amount, it remains at $2.45. ... Why did this module change the shipping insurance amount, and why does it not save the correct amount when I try to resubmit it? ...

What "shipping insurance" module?
What version of Edit Orders?


NOTE: Be aware in Edit Orders 4.1+ any "order total" lines are handled and processed by the associated "order total module" - NOT by Edit Orders. So if your "shipping insurance" modules uses a Zen Cart "order total module", the question becomes "why is the order total module not calculating the correct insurance amount (when loaded from the Zen Cart admin)?".

[NDboots]

Edit Orders 4.1.4
Zen Cart 1.5.0
Shipping Insurance v3.13

What "shipping insurance" module?
What version of Edit Orders?


NOTE: Be aware in Edit Orders 4.1+ any "order total" lines are handled and processed by the associated "order total module" - NOT by Edit Orders. So if your "shipping insurance" modules uses a Zen Cart "order total module", the question becomes "why is the order total module not calculating the correct insurance amount (when loaded from the Zen Cart admin)?".