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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeh View Post
    EU MERCHANTS:
    Petition you may want to sign:
    https://www.change.org/p/pierre-mosc...d-sole-traders

    US MERCHANTS:
    This also affects US merchants who want to sell to customers in any EU countries.
    So, it is probably in your best interests to sign this petition in order to help get the EU countries to listen to merchants across the pond too!
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...esses/VH1P82X0
    Nice one, Ajeh. Thanks for the links.

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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    Hi everyone. I am the one who started this whole discussion but because I was perhaps a bit early with this new VAT concept and not many understoof the implications for outside-to-inside EU sellers, not many replies were received. Thank you that this is now being noticed and hopefully it can be resolved!
    I live in South Africa and have downloadable digital products, so obviously this has a serious affect on my business. At the moment, the future looks like shop closure. This is what I have already investigated.
    1. Registering in the UK for VATMOSS is not an option for me.
    2. I tried setting up PayPal so I can block all sales to the EU, but PP - after various emails back and forth - say this option is not available for South African PP.
    3. I am certainly not a ZC boffin, and normally have to try and find someone in this country who knows ZC, can come to my PC at home, and pay them to come and do the changes for me. It took me 4 months to eventually find a young man who knew what ZC is!
    4. IDEALLY now with this new VAT mess, I would like to set up my shop so that the system recognises a customer from a EU member country, and instead of the customer being taken directly to the clickable download link after payment via PP, I could send an email with the product attached. This would comply then with the "human intervention" that will avoid the VAT. Seems like we are going backwards in the technology though! Is this doable without too much stress on this old lady? LOL. I pulled down a PayPal report of all the countries I have sold to in the last 2 years, and unfortunately some people do NOT enter their address - not sure how they got around that as it is compulsory, so this is already one problem. PP does send me the IP addresses in each invoice though, but I understand that IP address alone is not sufficient proof of residence. My only option left then is to separate EU customers from the rest of the world, and hopefully add new ones as they also come on board e.g. Canada and Japan now hinting the same.

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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    See if this is what you had in mind.

    http://www.zen-cart.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=1933

    Offering a manual email option can be an alternate attribute selectable if an EU ip address is detected.
    Last edited by RixStix; 25 Dec 2014 at 05:49 AM.
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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    Yes this is what I had in mind thanks.

    I have one more question however related to this plugin. Does it require me to be able to click the country off in a list? Apparently this option is NOT available for South Africa as I emailed them and then held a telephonic discussion with them, as I could not see a list of countries that people in the US and Canada are seeing.

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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    The plugin has a PHP define statement that includes a list of to-be-excluded countries; any further questions should be directed to the plugin's support thread: http://www.zen-cart.com/showthread.p...Support-Thread

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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    Quote Originally Posted by wilt View Post
    Zen Cart has a join.me account, so will probably use that.
    Any update on this meeting, I only just saw this but would be interested to see what's in discussion.

    However, announced today: we also have a bit of breathing space - we can use our payment processor info as proof until June 2015 giving us time to sort out the collection of evidence issues.

    Support for MOSS registered micro-businesses until 30 June 2015
    UK micro-businesses that are below the current UK VAT registration threshold, and who register for the VAT Mini One Stop Shop (MOSS) may, until 30 June 2015, base their ‘customer location’ VAT taxation and accounting decisions on information provided to them by their payment service provider. This means the business need not require further information to be supplied by the customer. As payment service providers already collect and hold a minimum of 2 pieces of information about the member state where the customer usually resides, the transitional period, until 30 June 2015, will give micro-businesses additional time to adapt their websites to meet the new data collection requirements. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...l-30-june-2015

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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    Hi.

    Given there are a couple of people interested, is tomorrow at 7:00 gmt ok.I'll set up a join.me conference if thats ok.

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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    Hi

    Also note, I have a meeting on Friday with head of Business Development at Taxamo to discuss integration etc.
    http://www.taxamo.com/

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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    Hi,

    Was this from HMRC ?

    Quote Originally Posted by enlightened View Post
    However, announced today: we also have a bit of breathing space - we can use our payment processor info as proof until June 2015 giving us time to sort out the collection of evidence issues.
    Support for MOSS registered micro-businesses until 30 June 2015
    UK micro-businesses that are below the current UK VAT registration threshold, and who register for the VAT Mini One Stop Shop (MOSS) may, until 30 June 2015, base their ‘customer location’ VAT taxation and accounting decisions on information provided to them by their payment service provider. This means the business need not require further information to be supplied by the customer. As payment service providers already collect and hold a minimum of 2 pieces of information about the member state where the customer usually resides, the transitional period, until 30 June 2015, will give micro-businesses additional time to adapt their websites to meet the new data collection requirements. https://www.gov.uk/government/public...l-30-june-2015

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    Default Re: Digital Seller? New 2015 EU Digital VAT Affects You

    Hi.

    Have scheduled a join.me meeting

    https://join.me/994-880-642

    This is for tomorrow Jan 30th at 7:00 gmt.
    Would appreciate it if you are interested in attending meeting to ping here so I know how many to expect, and whether to wait before getting started.

 

 
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