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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by toyseller View Post
    I simply downloaded the CSS/JS Loader add-on and switched it on.

    Am I supposed to merge the coding ... that is what I am trying to find out.

    I thought that on a normal situation you downloaded a plug-in installed it, turned it on and if you had installed it correctly it worked.

    The CSS/JS Loader didnt work for me ... and Im trying to understand from this forum whether I need to pull out the coding to get it to work.

    What is increasingly frustrating me is that the people with the knowledge are expecting me to be at their level
    I have no knowledge of PHP, CSS or HTML. I do have knowledge of Cobol.
    IN GENERAL here's how MOST modules are structured..

    The readme should explain that IF the module modifies any of the core files and any of those files have been modified by OTHER modules, that you will have to merge the files so that you don't stomp on code those other modules need..

    The readme for most modules also includes instructions that if there are template folders you will need to re-name them to match your primary template's folder name, and that you will need to rename their "ADMIN" folder to match you site's admin folder name. You will need to do this before uploading the modules files..

    Finally, it's difficult for anyone to assist you without much more detail than you've provided.. Saying "it doesn't work" doesn't help anyone assist you.. What do you mean by "doesn't work"?? Can you provide a link to your site?? Include the details suggested in the "Posting Tips" section you see JUST when you click reply just below the rep;ies textarea field.. All of this will help folks to help you.. Very rarely is having knowledge of PHP needed..
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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Thank you for your reply.

    I think there was a misunderstanding because I thought that by posting the complete contents of my html_header.php file that would be more than enough to show what was wrong - when I put my header file in place the website template showed up correctly and when the CSS/Loader html_header.php file was in place there was a problem, I simply thought that a look down my coding would be enough to see what the issue was.

    I applied CSS/Loader to my live site, so I couldnt leave the file in place. I had to put back my own html_header.php file. The website was completely unrecognisable with rows and rows of full-stops. I dont think there was anything to be gained from leaving the website to be viewed in this condition.

    How I understood previous postings, it looked as if I need to merge the code from the CSS/Loader into my own file, but I wasnt sure from the postings whether this was what was being said.

    I have never come across a situation where I had needed to merge coding, but I just wanted clarification that thats what was needed ... or it sounded like what I might need to wait because there is a newer version of CSS/Loader. I simply wanted clarification of what I needed to do.

    I wasnt expecting the reaction I got.
    I have years of IT experience in the older programming languages and can usually skim through coding to get a idea of what wrong. Hence why I posted the code.

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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by toyseller View Post
    Thank you for your reply.

    I think there was a misunderstanding because I thought that by posting the complete contents of my html_header.php file that would be more than enough to show what was wrong - when I put my header file in place the website template showed up correctly and when the CSS/Loader html_header.php file was in place there was a problem, I simply thought that a look down my coding would be enough to see what the issue was.

    I applied CSS/Loader to my live site, so I couldnt leave the file in place. I had to put back my own html_header.php file. The website was completely unrecognisable with rows and rows of full-stops. I dont think there was anything to be gained from leaving the website to be viewed in this condition.
    Right.. seeing the code isn't terribly helpful.. This is a volunteer community so unless someone is willing to test your file on their own test store, seeing the code isn't going to be terribly useful..

    So let me make a few observations/suggestions:
    You need to create a dev version of your site.. As an IT pro you know that it's NEVER a good idea to implement something on your live site that you haven't first tested in a development environment.. So I'd say the FIRST thing you need todo is establish a clone of your site to TEST the install first.

    I don't know how else to explain what WILL help us help you except to say that saying: "The website was completely unrecognisable with rows and rows of full-stops." TRULY isn't a very helpful statement.. Since we can't SEE your site I have NO CLUE what you mean by this statement.. and given the LIGHT response to your queries, I'd say that neither does anyone else..

    Start by telling us CLEARLY what EXACTLY happens that is the issue.. Because honestly at this point I am CLUELESS as to what is happening on your site.. All we know is "when the CSS/Loader html_header.php file was in place there was a problem" WHAT PROBLEM.. Explain it.. in DETAIL.. Then post ALL of the suggested info recommended in "Posting Tips". Because honestly without DETAILED information, you will waste a lot of time waiting for someone willing to spend a few posts GUESSING your issue and GUESSING the solution..

    Quote Originally Posted by toyseller View Post
    How I understood previous postings, it looked as if I need to merge the code from the CSS/Loader into my own file, but I wasnt sure from the postings whether this was what was being said.

    I have never come across a situation where I had needed to merge coding, but I just wanted clarification that thats what was needed ... or it sounded like what I might need to wait because there is a newer version of CSS/Loader. I simply wanted clarification of what I needed to do.
    Zen Cart modules are not "plug-n-play". For all except a rare few, you WILL need to merge files.. IF the module modifies any of the core files and any of those files have been modified by OTHER modules, you will have to merge the files so that you don't stomp on code those other modules need.. A file merging tool like WinMerge or a commercial one like Beyond Compare will help with this task.. I prefer Beyond Compare and IMHO it does a MUCH better job of highlighting file diffs..

    Quote Originally Posted by toyseller View Post
    I wasnt expecting the reaction I got.
    I have years of IT experience in the older programming languages and can usually skim through coding to get a idea of what wrong. Hence why I posted the code.

    Regards
    Sue
    Because we don't know what ELSE you have going on on your site. Seeing ONE file isn't going to tell us much.. What we need is for you to TELL US what happens with this file in place.. You are going to find that this is going to be a standard "reaction" when seeking assistance here or any other open source support forum..
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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Hello All,

    I'm running Zen 154 with TPP 1.1 and I'm now installing CSS JS Loader 3.0.2. When I turn on "css minify" in CSS JS Loader it removes the styling for TPP only.

    Is there a way to get CSS JS Loader 3.0.2 and TPP 1.1 to play nicely?

    Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.

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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by kcb410 View Post
    Hello All,

    I'm running Zen 154 with TPP 1.1 and I'm now installing CSS JS Loader 3.0.2. When I turn on "css minify" in CSS JS Loader it removes the styling for TPP only.

    Is there a way to get CSS JS Loader 3.0.2 and TPP 1.1 to play nicely?

    Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
    Though I have not used the latest version of TPP, you could compare 1.1 and 1.06 with each other to find out what needs to be done to use css loader with TPP

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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Design75 View Post
    Though I have not used the latest version of TPP, you could compare 1.1 and 1.06 with each other to find out what needs to be done to use css loader with TPP
    I originally posted on the TPP thread and mentioned looking at TPP 1.0.6 but was told it was a CSS JS Loader issue and I should post here. I'm hoping someone using CSS JS Loader 3.02 and TPP 1.1 has bumped into this and resolved it.

    Thank you for the reply Design75!
    Last edited by kcb410; 31 Jan 2015 at 02:58 PM. Reason: typo

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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by Design75 View Post
    Though I have not used the latest version of TPP, you could compare 1.1 and 1.06 with each other to find out what needs to be done to use css loader with TPP
    I haven't a CLUE how to make this module and TPP work together which is why I sent the OP here.. He needs help with this module.. The issue is NOT with TPP which works JUST FINE, until you install this module with it.. I cannot help him since I DON'T use this module..

    The inclusion of the CSS JS Loader with TPP was NEVER done well or explained or even supported by the individual who included it with TPP (with NO ANNOUNCEMENT to the support thread that this "enhancement" was made). For that reason and the fact that the CSS JS Loader module should have been rlease as a SEPERATE module NOT "bundled" in with another module. This is why I kicked the CSS JS Loader module to the curb.. v1.06 of TPP is an OLDER version of both modules, and much has changed with both.. So I DOUBT the OP is going to find looking at TPP v1.06 very useful...
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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    I haven't a CLUE how to make this module and TPP work together which is why I sent the OP here.. He needs help with this module.. The issue is NOT with TPP which works JUST FINE, until you install this module with it.. I cannot help him since I DON'T use this module..

    The inclusion of the CSS JS Loader with TPP was NEVER done well or explained or even supported by the individual who included it with TPP (with NO ANNOUNCEMENT to the support thread that this "enhancement" was made). For that reason and the fact that the CSS JS Loader module should have been rlease as a SEPERATE module NOT "bundled" in with another module. This is why I kicked the CSS JS Loader module to the curb.. v1.06 of TPP is an OLDER version of both modules, and much has changed with both.. So I DOUBT the OP is going to find looking at TPP v1.06 very useful...
    hmm... okay, maybe I will check on it later. The files needed for TPP to work are included in the 1.06 package. If I can find the time I will extract them, and explain how to use them here.
    A few years back I used that version of TPP a lot. actually it was also when I started to appreciate the css loader and its possibilities to

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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Thank you for the replies.

    I guess I'll make an attempt to install TPP 1.0.6 on our Z154 DEV site, I'm assuming it won't go well.....it's too bad that when CSS JS loader was removed from TPP so was their ability to get along.

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    Default Re: CSS JS Loader [Support Thread]

    Quote Originally Posted by kcb410 View Post
    Thank you for the replies.

    I guess I'll make an attempt to install TPP 1.0.6 on our Z154 DEV site, I'm assuming it won't go well.....it's too bad that when CSS JS loader was removed from TPP so was their ability to get along.
    No it was a good call to remove it. As one should not force people to use the css loader.

 

 
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