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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-to...rsonal-data_en

    Personal data is any information that relates to an identified or identifiable living individual. Different pieces of information, which collected together can lead to the identification of a particular person, also constitute personal data.

    Personal data that has been de-identified, encrypted or pseudonymised but can be used to re-identify a person remains personal data and falls within the scope of the law.

    Personal data that has been rendered anonymous in such a way that the individual is not or no longer identifiable is no longer considered personal data. For data to be truly anonymised, the anonymisation must be irreversible.
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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    in a certain way, this all comes down to politics losing the power to big data processors and data controllers.
    And a huge amount of data anarchy using user tags, like email, id , cart connections, etc.
    The internet moved from piracy to piracy.
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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    Money Laundering statutory requirements, as well as accounting requirements trump GDPR

    Sorry, I must have been day-dreaming when I thought there were minimum thresholds for compliance because I can't fine it now but we eliminated any 'targeting' for EU sales and removed the euro as an acceptable currency.
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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    Been trying to think this through with customer deletions.
    If a customer request their record be deleted. If we remove all records from the following tables.
    zen_address_book
    zen_customers
    zen_customers_basket
    zen_customers_basket_attributes
    zen_customers_wishlist
    zen_files_uploaded
    zen_products_notifications
    zen_reviews
    zen_whos_online

    Not sure about coupons if they need to be kept.
    zen_coupon_gv_customer
    zen_coupon_gv_queue
    zen_coupon_redeem_track

    Could we keep the following tables intact with out breaking zen cart. This way we still hold records of the transactions and customer and shipping details.
    zen_authorizenet
    zen_orders

    if this appears ok a delete function could be added to the My account processing.
    Could also change this to hold an optin for marketing messages/newsletters.
    This works for people who create an account.
    Might need equivalent added to admin for people who use paypal express checkout or check out as guest (not sure if customer account is created when they checkout in this way).
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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    Done a bit more research. It appears that if someone uses PayPal express checkout they have an account created for them (in our store) each time they use it. So Admin function to delete also needed.
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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    Quote Originally Posted by brittainmark View Post
    Been trying to think this through with customer deletions.
    If a customer request their record be deleted. If we remove all records from the following tables.
    zen_address_book
    zen_customers
    zen_customers_basket
    zen_customers_basket_attributes
    zen_customers_wishlist
    zen_files_uploaded
    zen_products_notifications
    zen_reviews
    zen_whos_online

    Not sure about coupons if they need to be kept.
    zen_coupon_gv_customer
    zen_coupon_gv_queue
    zen_coupon_redeem_track

    Could we keep the following tables intact with out breaking zen cart. This way we still hold records of the transactions and customer and shipping details.
    zen_authorizenet
    zen_orders

    if this appears ok a delete function could be added to the My account processing.
    Could also change this to hold an optin for marketing messages/newsletters.
    This works for people who create an account.
    Might need equivalent added to admin for people who use paypal express checkout or check out as guest (not sure if customer account is created when they checkout in this way).
    Remember that the "Delete" button for deleting a customer already handles deleting non-order-related information: https://github.com/zencart/zencart/b....php#L362-L414

    Remember: deleting the customer record means they can no longer gain access to anything that requires a login ... including virtual purchases. Might want to inform them of that if you're entertaining such requests.


    Quote Originally Posted by brittainmark View Post
    Done a bit more research. It appears that if someone uses PayPal express checkout they have an account created for them (in our store) each time they use it. So Admin function to delete also needed.
    Those same "accounts" are listed along with all other customer accounts, so nothing extra/special needed.



    Remember: the "right to be forgotten" initiated with the problem of public social media posting, not with ecommerce transactions. With your store, the public-facing data would primarily be "product reviews", or other features you've added such as "testimonials".
    Double-check with your legal team whether you're going too far with the amount of data you're considering deleting. Check also with your accountant about transaction data retention requirements, particularly if your online store is the primary record of your transactions.
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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    A lot of websites are sending email to ask to resubscribe to newsletter. Are there any implications for not doing this? I asked the newsletter people I use, even they are not sure how to proceed.

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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    Quote Originally Posted by HeathenMagic View Post
    A lot of websites are sending email to ask to resubscribe to newsletter. Are there any implications for not doing this? I asked the newsletter people I use, even they are not sure how to proceed.
    They must have a way to opt-out. If you use ie: mailchimp, there's always a footer with your details and a unsubscribe link.
    I was told today, that even if a customers agrees with with company's privacy policies, that should be renewed 1 year later. ie: cookies, etc

    Another thing that I still didn't find, it's a Document that must be keap, because even if we do all correct, if we don't fill that kind of form saying what we did and why, it useless. Wich makes sense. It has to be save, recorded, somewhere.

    If anyone knows the name of that form or file, please post
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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    What Sage is doing on upcoming updates ( at least here for what I've been told ), it's to delete all data that it's not required to be in a invoice.
    I've extended the zencart delete function, to check other tables, like rewards points, etc, it really depends on what's installed, and in the Orders, If a customer wants to delete the account, but has placed a order, I'll update the email to empty or something that the table default value accepts.
    “Though the problems of the world are increasingly complex, the solutions remain embarrassingly simple.” ― Bill Mollison

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    Default Re: GDPR is Europe's new framework for data protection laws

    Quote Originally Posted by mesnitu View Post
    They must have a way to opt-out. If you use ie: mailchimp, there's always a footer with your details and a unsubscribe link.
    I was told today, that even if a customers agrees with with company's privacy policies, that should be renewed 1 year later. ie: cookies, etc

    Another thing that I still didn't find, it's a Document that must be keap, because even if we do all correct, if we don't fill that kind of form saying what we did and why, it useless. Wich makes sense. It has to be save, recorded, somewhere.

    If anyone knows the name of that form or file, please post
    Thanks for that. I don't use mailchimp, but I will have to see if I can put something in the footer

 

 
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