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  1. #281
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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    Hello...can anyone tell me why i am seeing all of my tax zones listed upon checkout please? This is that i see :

    NS TAX 15% + Sales Tax + AB TAX 5% + BC TAX 12% + MB TAX 5% + NB TAX 13% + NL TAX 13% + NT TAX 5% + NU TAX 5% + ON TAX 13% + PE TAX 5% + SK TAX 5% + QE TAX 5% + YT TAX 5%:

    Any help would be greatly apprecated!

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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    Follow the instructions posted at the beginning and throughout this thread. You clearly did not.

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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    Hello, everybody,

    Can you advice how to set Taxes part in Administrator back-end for a business that is not required to collect taxes (below threshold $30,000), not for goods, not for shipping?

    Appreciate your help.
    Helen

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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    Why are you setting up taxes if you are not registered or required to collect ?

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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by newagekat View Post
    Why are you setting up taxes if you are not registered or required to collect ?
    :) To be sure that customers will be not charged with taxes...

    And seriously, if I understand your answer right, if I leave Tax part in Administrator back-end alone, without any messing with defaults, then taxes will not be charged, not for goods, not for shipping too?

    Sorry for making myself unclear.
    Helen

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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    If you don't set up taxes then your customers won't get charged. Be sure to set the sample taxes to 0. These are the samples that come with zc

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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    Thank you, this is what I was looking for.
    Appreciate your help.
    Helen.

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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    Hi
    After a lot of searching etc, I have a zencart store in Quebec working correctly with all tax setups etc - I have attached all the settings/instructions that work on my site - which may be of help to you. :smile Attachment 10658

    No files to upload, zip safe to open - just a read me text file & image.

    NB: This is for version 1.5 - if you are using version 1.3.9h (then don't apply the FIXES to those 2 files)
    Lead•Empower•Motivate
    Catherine S.
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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    Quote Originally Posted by DrByte View Post
    You might find this helpful ... it needs a bit of touching-up, but the basic core is there:
    ########################################

    ** THE CONTENTS OF THIS ARTICLE ARE RELEASED UNDER THE GPL ***

    Vendors operating in Canada need to accommodate numerous tax configurations to support proper tax collection on sales to customers in provinces where they are registered to sell.
    There's a Federal GST, HST, and provincial PST/RST.

    Tax Zones / Rates configuration can be a little confusing at times, as the terms are easily and accidentally swapped ... by mistake... thus it's sometimes hard to follow the process through completely.

    Hopefully this short article will help clarify.
    Some contents originally written by Peter Mosier
    Revised for clarity by DrByte

    =========================
    Understanding Terminology
    =========================
    TAX CLASS = A setting assigned to PRODUCTS and to SHIPPING that's used to calculate final taxes.
    TAX ZONE = A regional setting used to help determine tax rates by geography.
    TAX RATE = A rate calculated by combining a product's tax class and shipping zone with the relevant tax percentage.

    Zen Cart uses SHIPPING ADDRESS to determine appropriate taxes, i.e. which TAX ZONE you are shipping into. NOTE: this is the shipping address, and *NOT* the billing address.

    A TAX RATE is determined by comparing SHIPPING ADDRESS to the Tax ZONE set up for the TAX RATE; and also by Tax Class assigned to each product.

    You can only assign ONE TAX CLASS to a product.
    In many stores, you will only have one TAX CLASS (GST/HST/PST) since all goods are either taxable or non-taxable.
    When would you use different rates? One example would be if, say, CLOTHES were taxed at a different rate than BOOKS which are in turn different from DVDs. You could create a different TAX CLASS for each family ("class") of product in that case.

    In the following examples, we will be dealing with only ONE tax CLASS for products.
    You likely want the GST for SHIPPING to show up separately, so we will make a separate "TAX CLASS" for "GST on Shipping".

    As of Zen Cart v1.3.9, you can set it to split out your taxes to show on separate lines on the customer's order/invoice/receipt.
    Or you can have it add all taxes together and just show tax as one subtotal on a single line.

    *******************************************************
    Best part is: IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY CONTRIBUTIONS!!!!!
    Just a careful setup of the zones.
    *******************************************************

    ===================
    Step-by-Step SETUP:
    ===================


    STEP (1): Set the location for your store:

    Configuration --> My Store

    - Country: Canada
    - Zone: Ontario

    ========================================================

    STEP (2): Create the "Tax Zones". The are geographical regions where a particular set of tax laws applies

    [FONT="Courier New"]Locations/Taxes --> Zones Definitions[/FONT]

    Create the Zone for all of Canada
    - Zone Name: Canada GST Zone
    - Description: GST (except HST Zones)

    Now click on the newly created "Canada GST Zone" row to drill down one level to "Sub Zones"
    Click INSERT to create 8 new sub-zones, one at a time:

    - Country: Canada; Zone: Alberta
    - Country: Canada; Zone: Manitoba
    - Country: Canada; Zone: Northwest Territories
    - Country: Canada; Zone: Nunavut
    - Country: Canada; Zone: Prince Edward Island
    - Country: Canada; Zone: Quebec
    - Country: Canada; Zone: Saskatchewan
    - Country: Canada; Zone: Yukon Territory


    ==============

    Click on "BACK" to go up one level.
    Now create the Ontario HST Zone:
    Click Insert

    - Zone Name: Ontario HST Zone
    - Description: HST (only when shipping to Ontario)

    Now click on the newly created "Ontario HST Zone" row to drill down one level to "Sub Zones"
    Click INSERT to create new sub-zone:

    - Country: Canada
    - Zone: Ontario

    ==============

    Click on "BACK" to go up one level.
    Now create the BC HST Zone:
    Click Insert

    - Zone Name: BC HST Zone
    - Description: HST (only when shipping to BC)

    Now click on the newly created "BC HST Zone" row to drill down one level to "Sub Zones"
    Click INSERT to create new sub-zone:

    - Country: Canada
    - Zone: British Columbia

    ==============

    Click on "BACK" to go up one level.
    Now create the Maritimes HST Tax Zone:
    Click Insert

    - Zone Name: Eastern Canada - HST Zone
    - Description: NS, NB, NL

    Now click on the newly created "Eastern Canada - HST Zone" row to drill down one level to "Sub Zones"
    Click INSERT to create new sub-zone:

    - Country: Canada; Zone: Nova Scotia
    - Country: Canada; Zone: New Brunswick
    - Country: Canada; Zone: Newfoundland

    ==============

    Do NOT create a separate Tax ZONE for Shipping. You will simply use the "Canada" tax zone for the GST Shipping tax CLASS (below).

    *** Important: this means that SHIPPING GST will only be charged to destinations within Canada, but NOT charged on exports. According to Canada Customs & Revenue Agency (1-800-959-5525), you do *NOT* charge GST on the shipping fee for EXPORTS.


    ========================================================

    STEP (3): Create the "Tax Classes"

    Note: You can only assign ONE Tax CLASS to a product.
    But since we want shipping GST to show up separately, we will make a separate Tax CLASS just for shipping.

    [FONT="Courier New"]Locations/Taxes --> Tax Classes[/FONT]

    create TWO (2) tax classes:

    - Tax Class Title: GST/HST/PST Class
    - Description: All taxable goods

    - Tax Class Title: GST on Shipping
    - Description: GST on shipping within Canada

    ========================================================

    STEP (4): TAX RATES

    Here is where it all comes together: Tax Rates.
    Tax RATES associate Tax ZONES & Tax CLASSES to determine the correct Tax Rate.

    HINT: The "DESCRIPTION" is what shows up on the invoice, so use it judiciously!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    [FONT="Courier New"]Locations/Taxes --> Tax Rates[/FONT]

    create SEVEN (7) Tax Rates:

    - Tax Class Title: GST/PST/HST Class
    - Zone: Canada GST Zone
    - Tax Rate (%): 5.0000
    - Description: 5.0% GST#99999 99999 RT0001
    - Priority: 1

    /*HINT: Insert your Tax Number (RST) as part of DESCRIPTION and it will show up on invoice !!!


    - Tax Class Title: GST/PST/HST Class /* HINT: Yes, this is the same one you just used
    - Zone: Ontario HST Zone
    - Tax Rate (%): 13.0000
    - Description: 13.0% HST (Ontario)
    - Priority: 1
    /*HINT: Insert your Tax Number (RST) as part of DESCRIPTION and it will show up on invoice !!!


    - Tax Class Title: GST/PST/HST Class /* HINT: Yes, this is the same one you just used
    - Zone: BC HST Zone
    - Tax Rate (%): 12.0000
    - Description: 12.0% HST (BC)
    - Priority: 1
    /*HINT: Insert your Tax Number (RST) as part of DESCRIPTION and it will show up on invoice !!!


    - Tax Class Title: GST/PST/HST Class /* HINT: Yes, this is the same one you just used
    - Zone: Eastern Canada - HST Zone
    - Tax Rate (%): 15.0000
    - Description: 15% HST#R99999 9999 RT0001
    - Priority: 1
    /*HINT: Insert your Tax Number (RST) as part of DESCRIPTION and it will show up on invoice !!!


    That takes care of taxes on products. And now, the Shipping taxes:

    - Tax Class Title: GST Shipping Class
    - Zone: Canada GST Zone
    - Tax Rate (%): 5.0000
    - Description: 5.0% GST on shipping
    - Priority: 1

    - Tax Class Title: GST Shipping Class
    - Zone: Ontario HST Zone
    - Tax Rate (%): 13.0000
    - Description: 13% shipping HST#99999 9999 RT0001
    - Priority: 1

    - Tax Class Title: GST Shipping Class
    - Zone: Eastern Canada - HST Zone
    - Tax Rate (%): 15.0000
    - Description: 15% shipping HST#99999 9999 RT0001
    - Priority: 1

    (Repeat if you have specific provinces with other tax rates for shipping)

    /* HINT: The above will calculate PST on shipping. Although there might
    /* be a tendency to think of shipping as a PST exempt service, in fact
    /* the Ontario Ministry of Finance says that for calculating the PST,
    /* "The total selling price includes delivery, mailing, transportation, or
    /* handling charges, but does not include the GST". With the above set-up,
    /* the PST for the shipping gets calculated (albeit separately).
    /* If you wanted them calculated together, you could assign "GST/PST/HST Class"
    /* as the Tax Class when setting up the shipping method.
    /* Personally, I prefer to break it out separately.

    ========================================================

    STEP (5): Specify the appropriate Tax Class for SHIPPING MODULES

    MODULES --> SHIPPING

    Edit whichever shipping module(s) you are using.

    Tax Class: GST Shipping Class

    /* SEE PREVIOUS HINT

    ========================================================

    STEP (6): Specify the appropriate Tax for PRODUCTS

    This may take some time....

    CATALOG --> Categories/Products

    Drill down to each product. Click EDIT

    TAX CLASS: "GST/PST/HST CLASS"


    ==============
    The following SQL statement would be helpful:
    --------
    Code:
    UPDATE products SET products_tax_class_id = 1 WHERE products_model NOT LIKE 'GIFT%';
    (you'd need to confirm that the desired products_tax_class_id = 1, first )
    ========================================================

    ===============
    Example Output:
    ===============

    Shipping to Ontario:

    Sub-Total: $69.00
    Per Item (Best Way): $10.00
    13.0% HST (Ontario) RST #99999 9999 RT0001: $8.97
    13.0% HST (shipping): $ 1.30
    Total: $89.27

    Shipping into the Maritimes zone (NB, NS, or NL):

    Sub-Total: $69.00
    Per Item (Best Way): $10.00
    13% HST#R99999 9999 RT0001: $8.97
    13% shipping HST#99999 9999 RT0001: $ 1.30
    Total: $89.27

    Shipping to Canada, but to a zone where *only* GST applies:
    Sub-Total: $69.00
    Per Item (Best Way): $10.00
    5.0% GST # 99999 9999 RT0001: $ 3.45
    5.0% GST (shipping): $ 0.50
    Total: $82.95

    Shipping to non-Canada (tax exempt) zone:
    Sub-Total: $69.00
    Per Item (Best Way): $10.00
    Total: $79.00
    I follow your setup tax for canada. But I try order get this as follow:

    sub-tatal $12.99

    $7.89Canada Post (Regular, 2012-07-25):

    $2.18HST#804693150 RT0001 + 5.0% GST#804692150 RT0001 + 8.0% PST (Ontario):

    $0.00HST#804693150 RT0001:

    $0.005.0% GST#804692150 RT0001:

    $0.008.0% PST (Ontario):

    $0.005.0% GST on shipping:

    $0.008.0% PST (shipping):

    $23.06Total:

    the tax not come out I don't know why?

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    Default Re: Configuring Taxes for Canadian Sites/Zones

    I am in Quebec and having trouble getting both the QST and GST to calculte, as provincial tax laws require.

    The problem seems to be related to having 2 tax calculations. If I delete one of the taxes, so that, say, there is only the 5% GST, it calculates and displays correctly. But I need 2 tax calculations.

    So I add a second rate for Zone = Quebec, same Tax Class, and with the different Tax Rate. Now when I go to Checkout for a shipment to Quebec, the two tax lines are shown, but no calculation - the tax amounts are both $0.00. For the life of me I can't figure out how to make the taxes calculate when there are 2 of them.

    I know the individual taxes are correct, since when I delete one Tax Rate, the remaining one calculates correctly. Show Split Tax Lines is set to True, so they are displaying correctly. Just not calculating when there are 2 Tax Rates.

    What am I missing here?
    Last edited by uniline1; 30 Jul 2012 at 01:00 PM.

 

 
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