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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    @ crazysarah:

    Support for IE6 in this menu was dropped over a year ago. IE6 is dying. Help kill it HERE!!

    Statement by me pulled from another thread in Nov. 2010 (same applies to this menu, as well):

    "Do yourself a favor............forget about IE6. It's old news and most of the world has dropped ALL support for it, including Facebook (the worlds leading website at this time), Gmail, Youtube, Digg, Twitter Google, and even Microsoft themselves have dropped support for IE6, so let it die in peace, remembering the "good ole days" when that's all the MS BS we had to deal with.

    If you have any problems with any IE browser version 7 or newer, I'll do my very best to help you find the problem.

    Sorry, but IE6 is dead.
    Robert
    "

    So really Sarah..............do yourself a favor and forget about IE6...........NOBODY is supporting NOR still developing for it any more.


    Hope this helps.

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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    unfortunately a significant % of the visitors to the site I'm building still use ie6 and it's an ecommerce site obviuosly so although it pains me I have to support it. Thanks for letting me know that this mod doesn't support ie any more, do you know what the difference is or which version I'd need to go back to? I'd still love to use this mod.

    thanks for the response :) btw

    EDIT
    I only just spotted your second link there. The version I'm using still has the htc file and also doesn't mention dropping of support for ie6 in the readme at all.
    Last edited by crazysarah; 6 Sep 2012 at 11:26 AM.

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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    Quote Originally Posted by crazysarah View Post
    unfortunately a significant % of the visitors to the site I'm building still use ie6 and it's an ecommerce site obviuosly so although it pains me I have to support it. Thanks for letting me know that this mod doesn't support ie any more, do you know what the difference is or which version I'd need to go back to? I'd still love to use this mod.

    thanks for the response :) btw

    EDIT
    I only just spotted your second link there. The version I'm using still has the htc file and also doesn't mention dropping of support for ie6 in the readme at all.

    There's only 6% world-wide, so when you say, "unfortunately a significant % of the visitors to the site I'm building still use ie6", it really makes me wonder how you would know that.............since the site isn't built yet? I've been building sites for almost 7 years now, and unless a site is up an running, there's absolutely NO WAY to determine browser statistics. Did you perhaps meant RE-building?
    Anyway, as stated above, there's only 6% of people world-wide that uses IE6 and unless your primary target countries are Peoples Republic of China, still coming in at 21.3% Japan, coming in at 4.7%, or South Korea, coming in at 2.8% of IE6 users.
    So......if your primary target countries are the U.S. (0.4%), and Canada (0.7%), then by all means there'll NOT be very many IE6 users.

    And even if they was a significant amount of people that use IE6, it's either because they work at an IT company who refuses to upgrade and they should be working instead of browsing anyway, or they are people who are just ignorant to the fact that using a browser that's been outdated as long as this one has, that it's chock full of security issues.

    The IT people CAN'T do anything about it, but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE..........DON'T be one of those people to let them REMAIN ignorant toward the situation.............EDUCATE YOUR CUSTOMERS ABOUT THE DANGERS OF USING OUTDATED BROWSERS!!!
    And if YOU are still so concerned about trying to build a site for a browser that the company that made it won't even support anymore, then apparently you need to EDUCATE YOURSELF about it!

    Think about it this way:

    You've got a customer who doesn't KNOW better than to use IE6. Then somebody builds a site that supports this out-dated piece of software. Said customer comes to site, browsing with IE6, which ALL the educated people warn against using. Said customer makes a purchase, having to enter their valuable information on this site. Then, since they used an out of date browser, they got hacked and some creep stole their identity. They spend the next year trying to get their life back, and no telling how much money already got stolen from them.
    So why did the customer get hacked to begin with? It's because they went to a site that didn't warn them about using out-dated and dangerous browsers. Now, it becomes YOUR FAULT, as you built it, then didn't even warn them about the dangers. Can you live with that?

    I couldn't! I actually CARE about MY reputation as a designer. And even more than caring for me, you can ask any of my customers, I actually care, help, and even educate my customers about potential dangers. That's why I.................LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD..................have dropped support for IE6, and absolutely REFUSE to make ANY site compatible with it.

    MAKE THEM UPGRADE!!



    Anyway Sarah, I desperately hope I've changed your mind about developing for IE6 and hackers right along with it, but if not.................Sorry, but you'll find absolutely NO support for IE6 here.

    Also, on a personal note: I REALLY don't mean any dis-respect, or to be rude. I've been told that I sound rude when I express my opinion.


    Thanks,
    Robert
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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    Quote Originally Posted by Get Em Fast View Post
    There's only 6% world-wide, so when you say, "unfortunately a significant % of the visitors to the site I'm building still use ie6", it really makes me wonder how you would know that.............since the site isn't built yet? I've been building sites for almost 7 years now, and unless a site is up an running, there's absolutely NO WAY to determine browser statistics. Did you perhaps meant RE-building?
    Anyway, as stated above, there's only 6% of people world-wide that uses IE6 and unless your primary target countries are Peoples Republic of China, still coming in at 21.3% Japan, coming in at 4.7%, or South Korea, coming in at 2.8% of IE6 users.
    So......if your primary target countries are the U.S. (0.4%), and Canada (0.7%), then by all means there'll NOT be very many IE6 users.

    And even if they was a significant amount of people that use IE6, it's either because they work at an IT company who refuses to upgrade and they should be working instead of browsing anyway, or they are people who are just ignorant to the fact that using a browser that's been outdated as long as this one has, that it's chock full of security issues.

    The IT people CAN'T do anything about it, but PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE..........DON'T be one of those people to let them REMAIN ignorant toward the situation.............EDUCATE YOUR CUSTOMERS ABOUT THE DANGERS OF USING OUTDATED BROWSERS!!!
    And if YOU are still so concerned about trying to build a site for a browser that the company that made it won't even support anymore, then apparently you need to EDUCATE YOURSELF about it!

    Think about it this way:

    You've got a customer who doesn't KNOW better than to use IE6. Then somebody builds a site that supports this out-dated piece of software. Said customer comes to site, browsing with IE6, which ALL the educated people warn against using. Said customer makes a purchase, having to enter their valuable information on this site. Then, since they used an out of date browser, they got hacked and some creep stole their identity. They spend the next year trying to get their life back, and no telling how much money already got stolen from them.
    So why did the customer get hacked to begin with? It's because they went to a site that didn't warn them about using out-dated and dangerous browsers. Now, it becomes YOUR FAULT, as you built it, then didn't even warn them about the dangers. Can you live with that?

    I couldn't! I actually CARE about MY reputation as a designer. And even more than caring for me, you can ask any of my customers, I actually care, help, and even educate my customers about potential dangers. That's why I.................LIKE THE REST OF THE WORLD..................have dropped support for IE6, and absolutely REFUSE to make ANY site compatible with it.

    MAKE THEM UPGRADE!!



    Anyway Sarah, I desperately hope I've changed your mind about developing for IE6 and hackers right along with it, but if not.................Sorry, but you'll find absolutely NO support for IE6 here.
    **nods in agreement**

    I MAY care a little about IE7 (but not much), but I am not going through ANY extraordinary efforts to make IE6 play nice on any site I am currently working on..

    Quote Originally Posted by Get Em Fast View Post
    Also, on a personal note: I REALLY don't mean any dis-respect, or to be rude. I've been told that I sound rude when I express my opinion.


    Thanks,
    Robert
    I get the same accusation from time to time on this forum by those who CLEARLY don't know me (at least they do not know my online persona since most of these folks tend to be new to this forum) I fail to understand how HONESTY is mistaken for RUDENESS.. My daddy used to say that sugar coating is for candy and hand holding is between you and your sweetheart.. The truth is sometimes not sweet or comforting.. it is just that THE TRUTH!! So right on Robert!!
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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    Hey Robert, don't worry, I didn't think you sounded rude. A ranter? Perhaps. A Raver? I hope so :) You're a ranter and a raver but not rude. lol

    I understand why you're so passionate having spent hours myself trying to get things working on IE6. The site is a re-build, 8 year old site, we get around 50-60 visitors a month who use ie6, and although that has been slowly declining, since I benefit directly from sales then if there was an easy way to make it work for ie6 then in my opinion defo worth it.

    I've decided though to heed your advice for now and I'm trucking on but I'm still going to come back and try to get this working. I have it working perfectly on another site but for some reason on this one... grrr...

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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    Quote Originally Posted by crazysarah View Post
    Hey Robert, don't worry, I didn't think you sounded rude. A ranter? Perhaps. A Raver? I hope so :) You're a ranter and a raver but not rude. lol

    I understand why you're so passionate having spent hours myself trying to get things working on IE6. The site is a re-build, 8 year old site, we get around 50-60 visitors a month who use ie6, and although that has been slowly declining, since I benefit directly from sales then if there was an easy way to make it work for ie6 then in my opinion defo worth it.

    I've decided though to heed your advice for now and I'm trucking on but I'm still going to come back and try to get this working. I have it working perfectly on another site but for some reason on this one... grrr...
    and those 50-60 visitors who are accessing the site from some corporate PC where the company refuses to upgrade their browsers, will simply log in elsewhere if they REALLY want your product. Some will upgrade their browser if they really want your product.. Others will simply go away.. However, unless these 50-60 visitors a month are accounting for more than 20% of your sales, and you are talking SIGNIFICANT money (THOUSANDS vs a coupla dollars here and there) then it seems to me that you are putting in an awful lot of effort for little ROI IMHO..
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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    I suppose that's fair enough. We'll see when I finnish if I could be assed going back and re-hashing it for IE6 but for now, I'm going to take your advice :)

    On a slightly related point. I'm trying to get this thing working on the rest of the browsers, I'm having trouble getting a background applied to categories in the drop down. I want them to be odd/even striped. I've stuck together a fiddle to better explain. Also in Safari and Chrome the subcategories are horizontal.

    I've mucked around with the default but nothing I would have thought would have broken it

    any ideas? It's doing my head in

    Oops: heres that fiddle http://jsfiddle.net/3fazn/2/
    Last edited by crazysarah; 6 Sep 2012 at 08:24 PM. Reason: stupidity

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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    Hey everyone,

    http://www.royal-fleur.com

    I am struggling with this mod. I installed it and it works like a charm on zencart 1.5 but i do have a problem.

    If i try to add a link on the header menu, it creates another link but it is below the home link instead of being on the same line.

    I tried to add the link in template_drop_menu after all the existing links or between the "category" and "my account " link but it pushes the last link into a second row.

    How can i add links to the flyout header and keep them on the same line. I tried to mess with css but no luck either.

    Any help would be more than appreciated

    Thank you

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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    Once you add your extra link, then you need to adjust the width of the menu items in the css:

    Code:
    div#dropMenu li {
        position:relative;
        list-style:none; 
        margin:0; 
        float:left; 
        line-height:1em;
        width:16.667%;
        *width:16.649%;
        }

    Hope this helps.
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    Default Re: CSS Dropdown menu for the header- With Categories!

    The reason for my posting today is I installed CSS Drop Down Menu and it seems to function OK with one huge exception. When I add the lines stated in the readme.txt file to my tpl_header.php file it breaks the body of the site. I have a dev location setup so as not to affect production. You can see the issue here http://dev.matchlockarms.com

    Thank you in advance for any help offered.
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    http://www.matchlockarms.com
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