Thanks for the reply.

this is my www.shipping.actionforms.ca_config.php

<?php
define('DIR_WS_CATALOG', '/');
define('DIR_WS_HTTPS_CATALOG', '/shipping/');
$template_dir = "shipping_template";
define('SITE_NAME','ship');
?>

this works to a degree. It goes to the right page but with warning about the SSL certificate.
https://www.shipping.actionforms.ca/...ain_page=login


i have tried
define('DIR_WS_HTTPS_CATALOG', 'www.shipping.actionforms.ca/');
and
define('DIR_WS_HTTPS_CATALOG', '/www.shipping.actionforms.ca/');

but that just makes the link to an SSL page

https://www.shipping.actionforms.caw...ain_page=login

or

https://www.shipping.actionforms.ca/...ain_page=login

I can't see how to get around it.
M