Ceon URI Mapping v4.x

[conor]

Hi,

Lots of chat here now! :)

if YOU prefer "friendly" URLs for whatever reasons you have found sound, then you should feel free to use whatever add-on you find will be the most sound one to use to provide this feature.. However, much of what you have assumed and posted about why friendly URLs are a better choice is not based fully in facts.

I think it goes without saying that, on the balance of things, friendly URIs are the better choice.. sites look better with human-readable URIs and there are no negatives to having them. None. (I don't consider using more server resources to be "negative" but a "sensible business/technical decision").

Few probably need product urls for printed material and nobody really remembers even a re-written url; hard enough just to remember the domain.

I disagree, I think having URIs like "/summer" is something well worth having - in this case a URI for a site showcasing the summer specials, useful for printing on bill boards, bus stops etc. I agree that not many may "need" this but I do think it's something some sites do need, more likely to be larger stores with physical, real-life advertising.

Anyway.. I'm biased of course so I would say all of that ;)

Regardless, /about-us just looks so much better than /index.php?main_page=page&id=3 so I think all sites should use Ceon URI Mapping. :)

Have a good afternoon!

All the best...

Conor
ceon

[Gerjan]

Hi Conor,

About my & and &amp: problem... I re-created an ezpage. Worked fine again, uri mapping was also created again (and works when I visit the link).

Strange thing is that SitemapXML now created the link correctly: /index.php?main_page=page&id=1

So the &amp: is gone and the & was placed right and Google accepted the xml file. But again, no uri mapping was added (/test).

All other sitemaps have the correct uri mappings in them, so no problemens there. So again, should I stay here or go to SitemapXML?

No errors in my cache btw.

[DivaVocals]

I think it goes without saying that, on the balance of things, friendly URIs are the better choice.. sites look better with human-readable URIs and there are no negatives to having them. None. (I don't consider using more server resources to be "negative" but a "sensible business/technical decision").

Oh let me be clear here, I was not saying that there are negatives to using friendly URLs at all.. I simply wanted to point out that some of the "facts" put forward about WHY to use friendly URLs and "facts" about dynamic URLs were not entirely accurate. I don't disagree that human-readable URIs look better, but dynamic URLS certainly will not "harm" a site if a shopowner chooses not to use an add-on which generates friendly URLs.. 'tis my only point on that score..

Ultimately it is the shopowner's choice on whther or not to use a human-readable URI add-on, and IMHO they should choose the add-on that provides this feature in a way that does not introduce new problems to the site.. On that last point I too am biased as well in that I think that your add-on is the ONLY one in this class of add-ons which does friendly URLs the RIGHT WAY.

When I say the RIGHT way, I mean it does so in a non-destructive manner, plays NICE with other add-ons, provides LOADS more flexibility (auto generate or create your own URIs), and most importantly it can easily be turned off if the shopowner so desires without creating the dreaded 301 errors. (which is the real issue IMHO with the "other" add-ons in this same class) Plus your documentation and support of this add-on are second to none. The add-on has one of the SMARTEST installers I've used, and it helps the site manager create the correct .htaccess file needed. Plus you just rock Conor.. I am unabashedly a fan!!! For all of these reasons when I have a client who wants friendly URLs, THIS is the add-on I install for them.

[countrycharm]

Oh let me be clear here, I was not saying that there are negatives to using friendly URLs at all.. I simply wanted to point out that some of the "facts" put forward about WHY to use friendly URLs and "facts" about dynamic URLs were not entirely accurate. I don't disagree that human-readable URIs look better, but dynamic URLS certainly will not "harm" a site if a shopowner chooses not to use an add-on which generates friendly URLs.. 'tis my only point on that score..

Ultimately it is the shopowner's choice on whther or not to use a human-readable URI add-on, and IMHO they should choose the add-on that provides this feature in a way that does not introduce new problems to the site.. On that last point I too am biased as well in that I think that your add-on is the ONLY one in this class of add-ons which does friendly URLs the RIGHT WAY.

When I say the RIGHT way, I mean it does so in a non-destructive manner, plays NICE with other add-ons, provides LOADS more flexibility (auto generate or create your own URIs), and most importantly it can easily be turned off if the shopowner so desires without creating the dreaded 301 errors. (which is the real issue IMHO with the "other" add-ons in this same class) Plus your documentation and support of this add-on are second to none. The add-on has one of the SMARTEST installers I've used, and it helps the site manager create the correct .htaccess file needed. Plus you just rock Conor.. I am unabashedly a fan!!! For all of these reasons when I have a client who wants friendly URLs, THIS is the add-on I install for them.

....nods in agreement....

[Serious]

zc1.5

My site stopped working and I'm trying to resolve the issue.
It quit completing orders sometime yesterday but had been working fine up until then.

Could the Ceon URI Mapping or Ceon URI Mappings Manager be causing a conflict with Fast and Easy Checkout?

[SPH]

and most importantly it can easily be turned off if the shopowner so desires without creating the dreaded 301 errors. (which is the real issue IMHO with the "other" add-ons in this same class)

Now I can disagree with you! :)

See this url:

http://www.prommart.com/tony-bowls-t...tr1-p-644.html

It is from my main site, where I had Ultimate SEO installed for a few weeks.

Now, the other day I deleted my site and did a fresh 1.5.1 install and it is currently back on dynamic urls. Ultimate SEO is not installed at all! But the re-written link still works (and I obtained this link from google, copied below).

The reason: I was advised just yesterday that if one turns off Ultimate SEO but leaves its htacces in place, it will still redirect to the proper page. So I put the htacces back up to stabalize my site pending whether I'm going with re-writing and, if so, what one will be better for this particular site (with potentially thousands of products to re-write). I have another site coming along which will have only a few hundred products and I most certainly will use CEON on it; also as a comparison control.

Ultimate SEO's readme is pretty basic thus far and does not mention the possibility of preserving your google links if you turn it off for any reason.

How does CEON work if one decided to turn it off and go back to dynamic urls? Can one completely uninstall CEON, or does it or something from it have to remain installed to save your links?

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http://www.google.com/search?q=promm...rlz=1I7GWYE_en

[conor]

Hi,

How does CEON work if one decided to turn it off and go back to dynamic urls? Can one completely uninstall CEON, or does it or something from it have to remain installed to save your links?

Ceon URI Mapping can be enabled/disabled, but disabling it will indeed break any static URIs that were being used, the user will just see the home page or a 404/sitemap page.

You can't really "go back" once it's installed and the static URIs are being used, unless you manually add the static URIs as individual redirects into the likes of a .htaccess file.

That's all understandable and fine though, why would you want to! ;)

All the best...

Conor
ceon

[conor]

Hi,

All other sitemaps have the correct uri mappings in them, so no problemens there. So again, should I stay here or go to SitemapXML?

As I said, I'd expect to see /test so it must be something about the SitemapXML module.

Sorry I don't have an answer for you, please refer to what I said before, nothing has changed, Ceon URI Mapping has nothing to do with the encoding of the links, so & and & issues are irrelevant to it.

All the best...

Conor
ceon

[conor]

Hi,

Oh let me be clear here, I was not saying that there are negatives to using friendly URLs at all.. I simply wanted to point out that some of the "facts" put forward about WHY to use friendly URLs and "facts" about dynamic URLs were not entirely accurate.

No problem, I do agree that there's a certain amount of misinformation about, glad that things are all a lot clearer here now after a bit of discussion! :)

Thanks for all the nice comments about the software/documentation, especially for mentioning the installation software, lol that alone took best part of a week to write so it's nice to hear someone talk about it specifically; of course, more importantly, I'm glad it makes things so much easier for people! :)

All the best..

Conor
ceon

[DivaVocals]

Hi,



No problem, I do agree that there's a certain amount of misinformation about, glad that things are all a lot clearer here now after a bit of discussion! :)

Thanks for all the nice comments about the software/documentation, especially for mentioning the installation software, lol that alone took best part of a week to write so it's nice to hear someone talk about it specifically; of course, more importantly, I'm glad it makes things so much easier for people! :)

All the best..

Conor
ceon

It was easy to say because it's true..

I looked the the alternatives in this class of add-ons and was directed to your add-on by a friend who saw all the issues I was having with configuration, and integration with other add-ons in this class. Heck one of these add-ons even interfered with a home page SLIDESHOW!! (Say what???) My friend saw my frustration with the setup and the lack of support being provided by the contributors of these other add-ons.. He suggested I check out the Ceon add-on.. I came here and haven't looked back since.. Your add-on was easy peezy in terms of installation and documentation two years ago, and you have only made it better with every release.. So for me this is the IT factor when it comes to the "friendly URL generating" class of add-ons..