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    Default Re: COWOA (for ZC v1.5.x)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marta van Eck View Post
    I understand that this mod will make possible to reduce to minimum data that are now required in COWOA? I just have change it by hand, apply the changes to no_ ccount page from create _account? Is this mean no_account in COWOA is equivalent to create_ account in standard procedure?
    Yes.. Here's the dirty little secret of ANY "checkout without account" process.. you still have to collect BILLING/SHIPPING data.. So YES the "create account" and "no account" processes are the SAME.. If you look at the code for these two pages you will see that the code on these pages is similar.. On the back end the ONLY difference between the two customer records is the COWOA flag.. One customer can skip the process of entering their billing/shipping information on any subsequent visits to your store because they can login in and bypass this part of the checkout, the other customer can either create an account or enter their billing/shipping information on any subsequent visits.
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    Default Re: COWOA (for ZC v1.5.x)

    This is what some customers want to avoid.Filling any billing info. OK thank you for help. I will try to compare both file, use the mod and then see if this helps. I also got Paypal express checkout. Seems this let to avoid to create account and also do not require any billing info. SO maybe some customers will use this method. Thanks again.

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    Default Re: COWOA (for ZC v1.5.x)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marta van Eck View Post
    This is what some customers want to avoid.Filling any billing info. OK thank you for help. I will try to compare both file, use the mod and then see if this helps.
    You are VERY wrong.. If you are accepting PayPal or credit cards, then BILLING information is required, and this is something your customers CANNOT avoid entering.. Your customers CANNOT pay via credit card on ANY site without entering BILLING information.. Your customers cannot pay via PayPal on ANY site without entering billing information.. You are spinning your wheels trying to FIX an issue that doesn't require FIXING..

    Quote Originally Posted by Marta van Eck View Post
    I also got Paypal express checkout. Seems this let to avoid to create account and also do not require any billing info. SO maybe some customers will use this method. Thanks again.
    Wrong again.. BEHIND the scenes an account is created in Zen Cart because an order record needs to be tied to a customer record.. BEHIND THE SCENES PayPal is also collecting this information because they need to have BILLING DATA (name, address, etc). Have you EVER paid with PayPal and NOT had to enter billing data (because you don't have a PayPal account) or confirm billing data on file (because you created a PayPal account and have your WHAT?? BILLING DATA on file)

    You are spending an AWFUL lot of time on something that TRULY isn't as big of a problem as you are making it out to be.. But good luck with your shop..
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    Default Re: COWOA (for ZC v1.5.x)

    Quote Originally Posted by DivaVocals View Post
    You are VERY wrong.. If you are accepting PayPal or credit cards, then BILLING information is required, and this is something your customers CANNOT avoid entering.. Your customers CANNOT pay via credit card on ANY site without entering BILLING information.. Your customers cannot pay via PayPal on ANY site without entering billing information.. You are spinning your wheels trying to FIX an issue that doesn't require FIXING..

    Wrong again.. BEHIND the scenes an account is created in Zen Cart because an order record needs to be tied to a customer record.. BEHIND THE SCENES PayPal is also collecting this information because they need to have BILLING DATA (name, address, etc). Have you EVER paid with PayPal and NOT had to enter billing data (because you don't have a PayPal account) or confirm billing data on file (because you created a PayPal account and have your WHAT?? BILLING DATA on file)

    You are spending an AWFUL lot of time on something that TRULY isn't as big of a problem as you are making it out to be.. But good luck with your shop..
    I know that PAYPAL behind the scenes create the customers data ( credit card too)...but then the lazy customers do not have to do this. I do not want to repair an issue. There were already before some questions in this thread how to reduce the number of billing information. I just got some complains of customers who want to buy but they ask why i do need sooooo many information. I know that buying without billing info is not possible but if this happens behind the scenes some customers think it did not happens and they are happy they did not have to fill any info. I think today people got less trust about leaving their data of foreign serwer. But I must thank for the add . I am using it and still some customers were able to give that data without complaining.

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    Default Re: COWOA (for ZC v1.5.x)

    Quote Originally Posted by Marta van Eck View Post
    I know that PAYPAL behind the scenes create the customers data ( credit card too)...but then the lazy customers do not have to do this. I do not want to repair an issue. There were already before some questions in this thread how to reduce the number of billing information. I just got some complains of customers who want to buy but they ask why i do need sooooo many information. I know that buying without billing info is not possible but if this happens behind the scenes some customers think it did not happens and they are happy they did not have to fill any info. I think today people got less trust about leaving their data of foreign serwer. But I must thank for the add . I am using it and still some customers were able to give that data without complaining.
    **sigh**

    You are STILL mistating/misunderstanding how COWOA works..

    "lazy customers" (your words) still MUST enter BILLING information.. PayPal and other credit card processors REQUIRE THIS. There is NOWHERE in any part of the checkout process "lazy customers" DO NOT have to provide this data..

    Guest checkout features only SKIP the step of creating a username and password.. COWOA also adds "order step" features to the checkout process (for both standard and guest checkout processes) which help customers CLEARLY see where they are in the checkout process.




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    Default Re: COWOA (for ZC v1.5.x)

    I just installed this to my new site, and in spite of doing so in exactly the same way as every other mod I've uploaded, it seems to have had no effect at all on the site, is there more I need to do after uploading that I'm somehow missing?

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    Default Re: COWOA (for ZC v1.5.x)

    Quote Originally Posted by kitutal View Post
    I just installed this to my new site, and in spite of doing so in exactly the same way as every other mod I've uploaded, it seems to have had no effect at all on the site, is there more I need to do after uploading that I'm somehow missing?
    Did you turn it on? (from the admin config)
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    Default COWOA v2.6beta on GitHub

    Here's the changelog:
    v2.6 - 07/10/2014

    • Updated for Zen Cart v1.5.3
    • Fix bug with downloads being prevented for COWOA when 'Enable Forced Logoff' was turned on (dwest)
      ref: http://www.zen-cart.com/showthread.php?196995-COWOA-(for-ZC-v1-5-x)&p=1246575#post1246575
    • Additional improvements to onscreen text/labels
    • MANY improvements to the login page:
      • Eliminate the need for an unnecessary click to create an account by making the "Create Account" available on the login page.
      • Addition of "Shop with Confidence" and "Customer Service" content boxes (admin control to turn on/off and content managed via the banner manager)
      • Move guest checkout field-set to the top of the page for better user visibility


    Would like folks to test and report back issues they find, and once it seems like everything is working okay, I will submit to the downloads..

    Here's the link to the GitHub repo: https://github.com/DivaVocals/zen_COWOA
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    Default Re: COWOA v2.6beta on GitHub

    Hi
    Looking through the file structure.... Am I correct in assuming there is only one file (audience.php) to upload IF we are upgrading?
    OR do I need to overwrite all files?

    Thanks

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    Default Re: COWOA v2.6beta on GitHub

    Quote Originally Posted by Rizla View Post
    Hi
    Looking through the file structure.... Am I correct in assuming there is only one file (audience.php) to upload IF we are upgrading?
    OR do I need to overwrite all files?

    Thanks
    no.. you would not be correct.. all the changes I've listed in the changelog would involve MORE than just one file.
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