removing login info

[craftzombie]

Clicking the sidebox header does work. Clicking the link in the upper menu goes to a page that says the cart is empty even when a product appeared in the cart sidebox prior to the click.

It turns out the link was bad because my links began with http://craftzombie... instead of http://www.craftzombie......

and I can't believe I missed that and now I feel like an idiot! But anyway, I figured this out right after I removed the shopping cart link from the top. Oh well, everything else seems okay now (hopefully!).

So for those who tried it out, what do you think?

[stevesh]

Very nice. It works fine for me. The only change I would consider making is the link on the post-confirmation page suggesting I log out of the session. As far as I know at that point, I never logged in. Other than that, I'm looking forward to the instructions. The easy way to do that, I'm thinking, would be to copy the changed files to the proper directories, and zip them up. If you need space where people can download that file, PM me.

Steve

[craftzombie]

Very nice. It works fine for me. The only change I would consider making is the link on the post-confirmation page suggesting I log out of the session. As far as I know at that point, I never logged in. Other than that, I'm looking forward to the instructions. The easy way to do that, I'm thinking, would be to copy the changed files to the proper directories, and zip them up. If you need space where people can download that file, PM me.

Steve

Thanks Steve! I think I've got enough space, but if not, I'll let you know. I will also make the change to the order confirmation page about logging off.

On another site, which is not live yet, I did the same exact thing with the no login/no password, but I made the login for wholesale customers only. I removed the login fields from the login page (which is where checkout goes) and added them to the create account page. Then I have links for wholesale customers titled "Wholesale Login", "My Wholesale Account", and "Wholesale Logoff". After wholesale customers login, they are redirected to "My Account" (they should be logging in before they shop in order to see lower prices). On my site, wholesale accounts are created by me. And as long as I make the wholesale customer aware that they MUST login to get wholesale prices and should never create a new account, I think it will work just fine. I don't have that many anyway.

Will post everything next week. Thanks for testing!!

[Kim]

If you create a contribution for your process, it should be added to the Zen Cart downloads section.

[craftzombie]

If you create a contribution for your process, it should be added to the Zen Cart downloads section.

Okay, I wasn't sure if it should go there or not, but I will gladly submit it there.

[kembond]

Has there been any update to this?

[craftzombie]

Hey everyone! I'm finishing this up and will post this tonight. It was bad timing with xmas and my first wedding anniversary. Plus, I am a housewife before I am a computer geek and god forbid if my family can crack open a can of soup without my help! Anyway, I never make promises I know I can't keep, so don't worry, you'll have this by tonight.

[craftzombie]

Just so you guys don't think I broke my promise, I did submit this to the download section a few moments ago, but I didn't know this:

The Contribution will be reviewed by a team member, before it is activated
in the contribution area. You will receive an email notifiying you of the
activation. We hope to carry out reviews within 24-48 hours of submission,
but it may sometimes take longer.

So even though I said you will have it tonight, I guess I should have said I will submit it tonight! Hopefully I am approved!

[rstevenson]

Any word on this contribution? What's it ccalled? and which section of Downloads is it in?

Can't wait to try it!

Rob

[rstevenson]

I don't wish to fan the flames, since this discussion has settled down to methods of improving the situation, but...

While each of us may have our personal prefs on the matter, whenever I need to think about these sorts of usability issues, I go to the masters. In particular I go to the Nielson Norman Group and their reports. Here's a brief statement from the summary page for their E-commerce User Experience report:

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Shopping Carts, Checkout & Registration

Filling out forms correctly during shopping is very difficult for most users. Forcing people to register during their first purchase is a confusing and frustrating tactic that drives customers away.
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To repeat, this is not my personal opinion. It is a small part of a report of user behaviour representing thousands of hours of testing by experts in the field. You can read more about this and other reports on their web site http://www.nngroup.com and on Jakob Neilson's own site http://www.useit.com

The Zen code team should probably buy a copy of one or more of the Nielson Norman Group's reports to use as a basis for thinking about upcoming versions of Zen Cart.

In matters like this, personal needs are important, but we need the expert's collected facts and recommendations to help us see clearly and plan for the future.

And now back to your regular programming.

Rob