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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Thanks RXALEX that solves that issue, reading this am gonna have to test the site thoroughly and decide if i'm gonna run with this BETA version though...

    With regards to the search engines if it's a new site and you use the mod there should be no danger of duplicate URLs. I suppose if an existing listed site uses this mod then the old URLs still load the same pages, that's where a problem may occur? Any other opinions on this?

    Is there a way with the htaccess file to stop the original unoptimised URLS loading up?
    Last edited by adamdowney; 19 May 2007 at 02:09 PM.

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    red flag Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Hi

    I am kinda new to this ultimate url and have read over many many pages of threads. My problem is I don't know which to choose or ever where to start to install the correct version. I here some people say install v3.0 and some say install the older 2. something what ever the newest 2 is.

    Could someone please let me know which is better to install the 2 or the 3 and could someone direct me in the correct direction to get very good details on installing it. Like step by step for dummies lol.

    About my store so far it really isn't live I don't even have an ssl or any of that yet I am in the process of building it. It will have around 20,000 products in it. I have the newest zen cart available installed 1.3.7.

    I hope this is enough information. If anyone is willing to help me that would be great. Thanks in advance

    Matt

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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Quote Originally Posted by mboley370 View Post
    Hi

    I am kinda new to this ultimate url and have read over many many pages of threads. My problem is I don't know which to choose or ever where to start to install the correct version. I here some people say install v3.0 and some say install the older 2. something what ever the newest 2 is.

    Could someone please let me know which is better to install the 2 or the 3 and could someone direct me in the correct direction to get very good details on installing it. Like step by step for dummies lol.

    About my store so far it really isn't live I don't even have an ssl or any of that yet I am in the process of building it. It will have around 20,000 products in it. I have the newest zen cart available installed 1.3.7.

    I hope this is enough information. If anyone is willing to help me that would be great. Thanks in advance

    Matt
    I hate to become an outspoken critic of this mod, but my sincere advice to you is to step away from Ultimate SEO URLs. In theory, I love SEO URLs, and will defend the option to choose them (whether or not they are thought to improve search engine rankings), despite the overwhelming disdain of them on this forum by some.

    Back away from this mod, and keep possession of hours of your life that will otherwise be lost would you decide to install it. It's not ready. It's not worth it.

    That being said, I have personally run 2.103 on a 1.3.7 cart with less issues than the new beta. It (2.103) has its issues as well, but at least Paypal works as advertised. If using 2.103, I would check to be sure that any changes in Zencart 1.3.7 are changed in any files in 2.103.

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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Quote Originally Posted by kelvyn View Post
    Well, I'm using 3.0.0b1 it without incident on Zen 1.3.7

    If you check out this post, I've merged all the bugfixes into a bugfix update.

    I don't understand why he wouldn't finish the job - he put in all the effort to get this far! Come back, Dreamscape! :)
    I see your paypal verified logo on your site, so I assume you use Paypal.

    I'm wondering if you have an issue that I found. If I did a test paypal IPN order with this mod on, everything *just* about works, except that when the customer is returned back to the site, the order # isn't correct. Now, the order shows up in the admin, and everything seems fine, but the order # isn't transferred to the final page.

    Does this happen for you?

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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Quote Originally Posted by jettrue View Post
    I hate to become an outspoken critic of this mod, but my sincere advice to you is to step away from Ultimate SEO URLs. In theory, I love SEO URLs, and will defend the option to choose them (whether or not they are thought to improve search engine rankings), despite the overwhelming disdain of them on this forum by some.

    Back away from this mod, and keep possession of hours of your life that will otherwise be lost would you decide to install it. It's not ready. It's not worth it.

    That being said, I have personally run 2.103 on a 1.3.7 cart with less issues than the new beta. It (2.103) has its issues as well, but at least Paypal works as advertised. If using 2.103, I would check to be sure that any changes in Zencart 1.3.7 are changed in any files in 2.103.
    Well thanks for the information i hate to here that. Can you recommend anything else that works well here for zen cart I have no modules installed yet. They only thing i did was make mods to some of my files to make my meta keywords and description come up seperate when you analyze them for my home page.

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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    I have used Ultimate SEO since my site went live. I haven't had a problem with being indexed by google but I have noticed that some of my most valuable links from other sites are not showing up as being linked to my site and my page rank is horrible.

    This may not be the problem of Ultimate SEO at all. I don't know.

    My question is this though...after nearly ten months being live and running with Ultimate SEO would it be wise to do a fresh install of 1.3.7 WITHOUT the Ultimate SEO to see if it helps with my page rank or will that look to google like I am a completely new site and could it hurt my page rank even more?

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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Quote Originally Posted by mafiasam View Post
    I have used Ultimate SEO since my site went live. I haven't had a problem with being indexed by google but I have noticed that some of my most valuable links from other sites are not showing up as being linked to my site and my page rank is horrible.

    This may not be the problem of Ultimate SEO at all. I don't know.

    My question is this though...after nearly ten months being live and running with Ultimate SEO would it be wise to do a fresh install of 1.3.7 WITHOUT the Ultimate SEO to see if it helps with my page rank or will that look to google like I am a completely new site and could it hurt my page rank even more?
    I would think it would hurt more, since all the indexed pages with .html extensions would throw 404's. One option is to use BlessIsaCola's htaccess file a few pages back.. he basically reverses whats inside the htaccess for Ultimate SEO, so .html pages are forwarded to the correct zencart page. You could try creating a fresh install and use that htaccess to see if its redirecting properly.. your issue is the same one I've run into and I decided to stick through it until 3.0 is finished, or until i get extremely tired of it.. whichever comes first :)

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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Quote Originally Posted by adamdowney View Post
    Thanks RXALEX that solves that issue, reading this am gonna have to test the site thoroughly and decide if i'm gonna run with this BETA version though...

    With regards to the search engines if it's a new site and you use the mod there should be no danger of duplicate URLs. I suppose if an existing listed site uses this mod then the old URLs still load the same pages, that's where a problem may occur? Any other opinions on this?

    Is there a way with the htaccess file to stop the original unoptimised URLS loading up?
    This mod does not present any problem for search engine as long as you do a proper 301 Redirect.

    It's important that you do a redirect if you want search engines to transfer/key your pagerank history. If you really don't care about your indexed/rank pages you can simply let the search engines get a 404 error in which case they will eventually drop the pages with the 404 error.

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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Quote Originally Posted by samad64 View Post
    I would think it would hurt more, since all the indexed pages with .html extensions would throw 404's. One option is to use BlessIsaCola's htaccess file a few pages back.. he basically reverses whats inside the htaccess for Ultimate SEO, so .html pages are forwarded to the correct zencart page. You could try creating a fresh install and use that htaccess to see if its redirecting properly.. your issue is the same one I've run into and I decided to stick through it until 3.0 is finished, or until i get extremely tired of it.. whichever comes first :)
    thanks samad
    I'm in such a competitive internet market that I've really got to work for every hit I get. Every possible advantage I can find is extremely important.
    I suspect I'm going to stick with it as well.

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    Default Re: Chemo's Ultimate URL's

    Hi, having spent a great deal of time trying to make ultimate urls work and ploughing through the posts to find everyones ideas. Most of which are very plausible but do not seem to fix anything. I have to agree with those who - like me are very keen on the use of good urls - that this mod. is not ready and is more trouble than it is worth.

    I am some what confused that, along with many other similar packages, ZC does not have this in it,s generic form?

    It is widely accepted in the industry that good clean meaningfull urls are important for various reasons, so why not just get it right in the first place.

    Everything else about ZC is great, and I congratulate those who put so much effort in to it.

 

 

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