Thanks to both of you.. Ya'll are the BEST!!!:clap: Will certainly give all of this a try this weekend (provided I can get folks to leave me alone with my geek toys..)
Nigel are you familiar with the Super Sleight script?? I have had EXCELLENT success making PNGs in IE6 behave with this script in place.. No more blue halos..
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var supersleight=function(){var root=false; var applyPositioning=true; var shim='images/x.gif'; var shim_pattern=/x.gif$/i; var fnLoadPngs=function(){if(root){root=document.getElementById(root);}else{root=document;} for(var i=root.all.length-1,obj=null;(obj=root.all[i]);i--){if(obj.currentStyle.backgroundImage.match(/.png/i)!==null){bg_fnFixPng(obj);} if(obj.tagName=='IMG'&&obj.src.match(/.png$/i)!==null){el_fnFixPng(obj);} if(applyPositioning&&(obj.tagName=='A'||obj.tagName=='INPUT')&&obj.style.position===''){obj.style.position='relative';}}};var bg_fnFixPng=function(obj){var mode='scale';var bg=obj.currentStyle.backgroundImage;var src=bg.substring(5,bg.length-2);if(obj.currentStyle.backgroundRepeat=='no-repeat'){mode='crop';} obj.style.filter="progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='"+src+"', sizingMethod='"+mode+"')";obj.style.backgroundImage='url('+shim+')';};var el_fnFixPng=function(img){var src=img.src;img.style.width=img.width+"px";img.style.height=img.height+"px";img.style.filter="progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoader(src='"+src+"', sizingMethod='scale')";img.src=shim;};var addLoadEvent=function(func){var oldonload=window.onload;if(typeof window.onload!='function'){window.onload=func;}else{window.onload=function(){if(oldonload){oldonload();} func();};}};return{init:function(){addLoadEvent(fnLoadPngs);},limitTo:function(el){root=el;},run:function(){fnLoadPngs();}};}();supersleight.init();
> **nigelt74:**
>
> yep thats about as far as I got
>
> provided you set the background colour to something almost the polar opposite of the font colour, i got virtually no bleed through, or at least none i noticed, its just a halo of background colour around the button that bugs me.
> see here
> <http://grumpykiwi.com/zen_buttons/zen_bck/>
> select "transparent test" in the defaults looks good on the red background, but when you actually create the buttons you see the red halo, provided you set the back ground colour to something similar to your site background, the buttons will fit in a heck of a lot better with the above hack, than they previously did
>
> I am looking at imagefilledrectangle, but, todays is my eldests 4th birthday so the will be a sugar crazed midget terrorist stopping me for the next few days
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