Big Royal Mail 3.0

Thread for discussion of issues with Big Royal Mail 3.0

Guess I'll be the first...

Just noticed this upgrade after turning it off due to Phil's situation and installed the Basic Uk Mail.

So, does this update simply install over the old vertion? AND does it get rid of the errors in the log file as it attempts to verify?

When you say "install over the old version" bear in mind that the files (if named exactly the same) will overwrite the "old" files.

In general, with shipping modules... if you OVERWRITE the files to reinstall the modules you should FIRST copy all the pricing variables that have been inserted by the module into the database.

I usually copy them into notepad, making sure that I label each set of variables so I know which module they apply to. With RM, this can be a detailed process because there are a lot of pricing variables that apply to all the zones.

When you have a COPY of these variables in that notepad file, you REMOVE the module(s). Then you overwrite the php files. Then you INSTALL the modules again.

If the latest RM values are in these new modules, you should not have to "paste in" the sets of price variables - but if you do need to paste them in again, at least you have them all in that notepad file.

Thanks for the wise words schoolboy (a tomorrow project me thinks)

Chuckl's Royal Mail Mod is worth a shot... Just check that his filenames are not the same as Big Royal mail before you FTP them.

We now use Basic RM instead of Big. Chuckl went to a lot of trouble to make the mods compatible with RM's new pricing and insurance structures - and that's a feat worthy of an Olympic Gold, with oak-leaf and bar... RM's principal business objective is to absolutely confuse everyone... (even Stephen Hawking doesn't understand their formulas).

Rizla:

Guess I'll be the first...

Just noticed this upgrade after turning it off due to Phil's situation and installed the Basic Uk Mail.

So, does this update simply install over the old vertion? AND does it get rid of the errors in the log file as it attempts to verify?

No You have to remove some of the old modules. I wrote a sql patch to upgrade from the previous version and there are instructions on what needs to be removed.

I have not noticed any errors in my log file so I assume that they are no longer present. If you find any please let me know.

I rewrote the module as I like the way it worked and it was getting a bit old.

schoolboy:

Chuckl's Royal Mail Mod is worth a shot... Just check that his filenames are not the same as Big Royal mail before you FTP them.

We now use Basic RM instead of Big. Chuckl went to a lot of trouble to make the mods compatible with RM's new pricing and insurance structures - and that's a feat worthy of an Olympic Gold, with oak-leaf and bar... RM's principal business objective is to absolutely confuse everyone... (even Stephen Hawking doesn't understand their formulas).

This module has also bee rewritten with the new pricing options world zone 2. The only think that is does not do is take account of the Letter and large letter size options. Unless you are sure of you package size I would not recommend installing the letter and the package modules on the same site.

schoolboy:

Chuckl's Royal Mail Mod is worth a shot... Just check that his filenames are not the same as Big Royal mail before you FTP them.

We now use Basic RM instead of Big. Chuckl went to a lot of trouble to make the mods compatible with RM's new pricing and insurance structures - and that's a feat worthy of an Olympic Gold, with oak-leaf and bar... RM's principal business objective is to absolutely confuse everyone... (even Stephen Hawking doesn't understand their formulas).

LOL... Tell me about it ;(
Even the postofice get confused. I have two to choose from and neither are the same price (so I use the cheapest)

Thanks for the mod. Is there a reason that the Royal Mail International Signed For® "Printed Papers" is missing from version 3?

scotoman:

Thanks for the mod. Is there a reason that the Royal Mail International Signed For® "Printed Papers" is missing from version 3?
Printed papers are the same as Small packages. The only difference is that you can post up to 5kg. You could change the listings in the in Admin>modules>shipping and add to the end of the last section 2.1:14.42 etc. to allow the additional weights the format is weight:price. The royal mail price for each additional 0.1kg is £0.60 for europe, £1.22 for world zone 1 and £1.28 for world zone 2. The issue is if you are not sending papers then the Limit is 2kg therefore again I would not advise using this unless you intent to only send papers. If you give me a couple of days I will sort out a SQL script to change the airmail to printed paper rates.

That'll be great, thanks :) They send out huge technical books across the world so we've always used printed papers.

scotoman:

That'll be great, thanks :) They send out huge technical books across the world so we've always used printed papers.

I Hope I have attached a zip file with the P&P rates up to 5kg for overseas mailing.
Assuming you have already installed the app. All you need to do is:

1. Backup your database.
2. unzip the file
3. logon to your site
4. go to Admin>Tools>Install SQL Patches
5. Then either
   a) Open and copy the contents of PrintedPapers.SQL and paste into the box
   or
   b) upload the file, PrintedPapers.SQL, to you server and brows to it to open
6. run the sql.
7. Double check the rates!
   This will update all the overseas rates to allow up to 5kg to be shipped. It does not change the descriptions that are show on the screen. If you want to do that you will need to modify the PHP language files which are found in YOUR_SITE>includes>languages>english>modules>shipping.
   Change the ...TEXT_TITLE in all the modules you use.

define('MODULE_SHIPPING_RMAMSMALLPACKETSF_TEXT_TITLE', 'Royal Mail Airmail <span style="color:red; font-weight:bold">International</span> <span style="color: #555555; font-weight:bold">Signed For</span>® <span style="font-weight: normal; font-style: italic">"Small Packet"</span>');

to for example ```php
define('MODULE_SHIPPING_RMAMSMALLPACKETSF_TEXT_TITLE', 'Royal Mail Airmail <span style="color:red; font-weight:bold">International printed papers</span> <span style="color: #555555; font-weight:bold">Signed For</span>® <span style="font-weight: normal; font-style: italic">"Small Packet"</span>');

you will need to do this for all the following modules:
rmamassmallpacket.php
rmamassmallpacket500.php
rmamsmallpacket.php
rmamsmallpacketsf.php
rmamsmallpacketsf500.php
rmsmsmallpacket.php
rmsmsmallpacketsf.php
rmsmsmallpacketsf500.php

Hope that helps. I have tested it on my system and it all looks ok. Please double check the rates As I have not been through them all with a fine tooth come.

Have fun :smile:

Excellent, thanks. I'll try this out and let you know if there are any problems.

Is it me, or are some of the images missing from the package... ...notably /images/icons/shipping_rmairsure.gif when going through Step 1 of 3 on checkout?

:)

TheBoy:

Is it me, or are some of the images missing from the package... ...notably /images/icons/shipping_rmairsure.gif when going through Step 1 of 3 on checkout?

:)

The Airsure should be pointing to /images/icons/shipping_ukamas.gif

I cannot find any reference to the file you are looking for.
Have you updated your files to the latest version including the language files. OR If so check to see if you have created your own template files in \includes\languages\english\modules\shipping\YOUR_TEMPLATE_NAME this will override the default files in \includes\languages\english\modules\shipping.

It is working on my system if you want to have a look http://innerlightcrystals.co.uk/sales/

Sorry should have said that the reference to the image file is in \includes\languages\english\modules\shipping\rmamassmallpacket.php.

The line that needs changing would be ```php
define('MODULE_SHIPPING_RMAMASSMALLPACKET_ICON','shipping_ukamas.gif');

You may also need to change rmamassmallpacket500.php

I'm having problems installing this. I was using a previous version from Philip Clarke.

I am using Zen-Cart 1.3.9h

Having followed the instructions, and deleting some old shipping modules, when I ran 2012Update.sql I got an error "Cannot insert configuration_key "MODULE_SHIPPING_RMAMSMALLPACKET_ZONES_COUNTRIES_2" because it already exists".

We ship worldwide, but when testing I see that non UK orders are not coming up with shipping options.

When I look at Royal Mail Airsure® "Small Packet" ver. 3.0.0 for example only the first few weights under "European Airsure® rates from GB & Northern Ireland" are displayed. Just "0.1:7.7, 0.15:7.93, 0.2:8.16", the other rates for heavier weights are not there. I assume they should be in the other text boxes below, but when I try to add them they are not saved.

It is the same for the ""Rest of World" Zone 1 rates from GB & Northern Ireland" which just shows "0.1:8.3, 0.15:8.86, 0.2:9.42" however the "Rest of World" Zone 2" rates show a complete list of weights and prices up to 2kg.

"International Signed For" is the same, with Europe and World Zone 1 having only the first 3 weights/prices, and the rest black, but World Zone 2 is filled in correctly.

Should it still say "© Bouncing Ltd TA ########################.co.uk" at the top, or have I picked up an old module?

It appears that come entries in the configuration table are not created.

MODULE_SHIPPING_RMAMASSMALLPACKET_ZONES_COST0_1, 0_2 and 0_3 to 5_3 are there but 1_1 to 5-1 and 1-2 to 5-2 are missing.

Similarly for the other international options.

An error carried over from Philip Clarke's days is that the description for AirSure says "Parcel requires a signature". Actually Airsure doesn't require a signature, the barcode is scanned on delivery, but no signature is taken.

Hope this helps.

I have manually added the missing configuration entries and then updated the values with the sql provided and all seems to be working again.

devus:

I'm having problems installing this. I was using a previous version from Philip Clarke.

I am using Zen-Cart 1.3.9h

Having followed the instructions, and deleting some old shipping modules, when I ran 2012Update.sql I got an error "Cannot insert configuration_key "MODULE_SHIPPING_RMAMSMALLPACKET_ZONES_COUNTRIES_2" because it already exists".
There was an additional script that needed to be run "UpdateFrom2_any.sql" that should create all the additional fields that were required. Did you run this?